new cleanser advice - decleor, Psf, Dr. H, etc
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free skin care · Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:19 am

Ok, I am gradually figuring out a new skin routine, but I am having trouble with finding a good cleanser. Crying or Very sad

I have rosacea, largish pores,slightly oily occaisional breakouts, but super sensitive skin. I suspect that my skin is truly on the dry side, if I ever get it sorted out.
I tried OCM for a few days, but I don't like the idea of using hot water consitently - bad, bad for rosacea. Dermalogica ultra calming cleanser seemed to be a hit, but after about a week my skin decided it didn't like it anymore(finicky!) Sad

I just got a trial size of Dr. H cleansing cream - thanks EDS, but I need a cleanser to go with it.
I am eyeing Decleor cleansing oil, PSF green tea cleanser, Dr. H cleansing milk, yonka gel cleanser, or possibly kosmea cream cleanser. I want something that is soothing and not drying but doesn't leave a residue, and removes sunscreen - I don't wear makeup, so no worries there. any opinions?
Thanks for your help

free skin care · Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:52 am

Would a balm cleanser work for you? I have found that Burt's Bees Orange Essence Cleanser, Liz Earle's Cleanse & Polish and Molton Brown's Rosewax Cleanser are very soothing and leave skin soft and moisturised. The only thing is that you're supposed to use a muslin cloth to remove them. However, I have found (when a certain husband of mine has used up all the hot water Mad

) that they do come off fine with warm-ish rather than hot water. Because you have rosacea you could use a fine, soft cloth rather than a muslin one if necessary. This way, you wouldn't get the exfoliation benefit, but it would be gentle on your skin.

free skin care · Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:15 am

I'm getting the PSF one for the same purpose. I would also suggest Decleor's Cleansing Milk. I have also been eyeing Sothys - they have a variety of cleansing milks suited for different skintypes and was highly recommended to me by an SA. If you have sensitive skin you may wanna look at Yonka's Cleansing Milk rather than the gel. Primavera's Cleansing Fluid is also a good candidate.

free skin care · Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:37 pm

Hi!

I would recommend Ice Elements normal to dry cream cleanser.

It has a pharmacuetical grade aloe vera as a base and also contains squalane.

From your description it sounds like this cleanser would work wonders for you.

I had dry flakey, ashy, red skin and this cleanser has totally transformed that. No flakes, no ask and generally no red... sometimes a bit from time to time, but nothing like before.

You can find information on this cleanser at http://iceelements.com

Shelly, the president of Ice Elements, is also working on a line specifically for rosacea. You may want to sign up on their mailing list so that when it comes out you will receive a notification.

Good luck!
Bosoxy.

free skin care · Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:54 pm

I really like the Yonka Gel, but it doesn't remove waterproof sunscreen, but I find it great for sensitive skin. Also the Cellcosmet Purifying Cleanser is a good choice. I've found neither of them drying.

free skin care · Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:57 pm

Hi Sel,

If your Yonka Gel does not have surfactants and you use it on wet skin, you may want to try using it on dry skin. Sometimes the water will create a barrier on the skin so that the cleansers are not as effective.

Take care.
Bosoxy.

free skin care · Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:02 pm

Thanks Bosoxy, i'm going to try that. I do find that they seem to be more effective the drier my skin is. I usually use a cleansing oil first to remove my sunscreen and then use another cleanser after.

Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:34 pm

I just reviewed the Decleor Cleansing Milk. I wasn't very satisfied with the way it cleaned my skin.

I too have very sensitive skin - and mine is definately on the dry side.

For the last couple of years I have been very frustrated with my face. It seemed to react to everything causing redness, irritation, red bumps, and even had breakouts. I went to several cosmetic stores for help, and the sales people thought, because I had redness and breakouts that my face was oily. They would point me to products that were too drying and caused worse breakouts. Actually my face was reacting to the drying ingredients by producing more oil and sebum causing breakouts.

Someone then pointed me to a calming gentle moisturizer - Decleor Gentle Soothing Cream. That helped immensely. So I have been treating my skin with care and sensitivity every since - carefully and gently cleansing, moisturizing often and staying out of the sun! My skin has responded wonderfully.

I recently read a good book by Dr. Leslie Baumann called Skin Type Solution (copyright 2006). Her little questionaire showed me that I have sensitive, reactive skin that needs very gentle care. Her book suggested cleansing with purified water instead of tap water. The chlorination and minerals in the water can irritate sensitve skin. It has worked for me. She also give a lot of suggestions for products to use on sensitive skin - many of which EDS sells.

I wish you good luck!

free skin care · Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:25 am

from what i've gathered from this forum Dermatologica's daily microfoliant is really a must try. so many of you guys have been having such good comments about it. no wonder it's in my shopping cart now.

free skin care · Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:44 am

I really like the Dr H cleansers so they definitely get my vote, at the moment I have also just started using Decleor's Cleansing Oil which I also like, as it leaves my skin soooo soft. But in terms of foaming cleansers my fav ones are from Jurlique & Aesop.

free skin care · Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:37 pm

Hi, Elizasue, I know you're asking specifically about a cleanser, but I just wanted to mention that you also might want to consider Dr. Hauschka's Rhythmic Night Conditioner (Sensitive). It's formulated to reduce the appearance of rosacea. I don't have rosacea, but I do have incredibly irritable skin, and this product really does seem to be helping my skin calm down overall.

free skin care · Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:00 pm

Hi, just to confuse you some more. Have you looked at Pevonia they do a line of skincare for rosasea. I have used there sensitive skincare cleanser which was very gentle and there moisturiser. It might be worth a look.

Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:55 pm

I have tried many and found Bioelements Sensitive Cleanser to be the best so far. Calming, but cleans really well... I have very sensitive skin as well... good luck!!

free skin care · Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:15 pm

I have dry, sensitive skin that is prone to dermatitis and whiteheads. I also cannot use any sls and sles.

Dr H CC gave me dermatitis. PSF green tea cleanser gave me whiteheads. I have also tried babor cleansing oil and vernacular skin works cleansing. Both gave me whiteheads. I have yet to find a gentle cleanser that is truly non-drying.

Right now I am using camellia oil as a facial cleanser...still searching...

Good luck in finding something that works for you.

free skin care · Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:20 pm

Mtview,

Have you tried Rosehip Cleanser from DianaYvonne.com or Azulene Gentle Cleanser from Geografx.com? I like them both and find them non-stripping and non-irritating. Both are ph balanced. the Azulene cleanser has a gentle detergent in it but it doesn't bother me.

free skin care · Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:28 pm

Hi PocoLoco,

Rosehip cleanser gave me bad dermatitis Shock

I had the same reaction when I used another castille based cleanser. I have not tried the azulene cleanser though...

free skin care · Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:57 pm

Hi!

I really like the Azulene Gentle Cleanser. No castile in that one. I think the ingredients are posted on thewww.geografx.com (or is it geographx.com?) website....

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