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Fri May 19, 2006 6:28 pm      Reply with quote
This is the post for your problems choosing products to order. Here's my dilema:

I need a new daytime serum (don't like creams), I like it to be as natural as possible, yet as effective as possible...so I usually end up with "hybrids" (organic ingredients mixed with powerful stuff like Argireline or Retinol etc.)

My skin is combination/oily, so I like the serum to be pore-minimizing, anti-pimple, yet containing anti-wrinkle ingredients.

Here are my contestants so far (feel free to recommend others);

JURLIQUE Herbal Recovery Gel- I like it, but it does not have any "powerful" anti-ageing ingredients. Maybe I could mix it with PSF's Browtox or get the "goodies" from personalformulator?

PSF- Super Emergen-C and O2 serum sound nice...but they contain parabens and other ingredients, so when I go into one of my all organic phases, I won't use these...but they sound great...hmm. The PSF Retinol Night Repair I'm thinking of getting- figuring it must be "healthier" then Renova...

JUICE BEAUTY- the blemish and antioxidant serum sound good, but not so powerful. How do these compare to Jurlique or PSF?

IS CLINICAL- oh how nice the serums sound...but for the price I'd only get one of the serums...and what about the "other" ingredients? How pure is IS? How powerful is IS? Better then PSF O2 and C serum combined?

If anyone know of a pore-minimizing serum that is mostly organic, with no parabens and contains powerful anti-wrinkle ingredients, that would be ideal. Please let me know.

Thanks for heloing me out!
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Fri May 19, 2006 6:50 pm      Reply with quote
I'm not sure what kind of ingredients minimize pores, except for exfoliants, or what active ingredients you are looking for. But I heard that Rare Minerals night treatment minimizes the look of pores and clears congested skin. It's so exp. though I'm hesitant to try it.

Here are some other possibilities:

http://devita.net/products/ProductView.mgi2?mgiToken=EB05RHJLR2ES7299&ID=DAL

http://devita.net/products/ProductView.mgi2?mgiToken=EB05RHJLR2ES7299&ID=DC

http://devita.net/products/ProductView.mgi2?mgiToken=EB05RHJLR2ES7299&ID=DSD

http://devita.net/products/ProductView.mgi2?mgiToken=EB05RHJLR2ES7299&ID=DHP

The last one says it minimizes pores.

They also have acne pads - 10% Salicylic Acid

http://devita.net/products/ProductView.mgi2?mgiToken=EB05RHJLR2ES7299&ID=DAP

I don't know about the organic part but on the front of their site they say:

"Devita specializes in high-tech natural therapeutic skin care products also known as "cosmeceuticals" which utilize organic and ethically wild crafted 100% pure essential oils, whole herb extracts and amino acids."

I also don't know how well they work cause I haven't ordered it yet. If anyone else has tried them I'd love to hear what you think of them. Thanks. Smile
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Fri May 19, 2006 6:51 pm      Reply with quote
How about the Caudalie range. It seems to get positive reviews so far, its paraben free, not tested on animals and no animal ingredients, and it claims to have anti-ageing ingredients (from grapes apparently).
Maybe have a look at that - its quite reasonably priced too from looking....
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Fri May 19, 2006 7:01 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks! I already tried Devita- I use their AHA serum at night. Their daytime tratments made me break out... but it's a good "hybrid" line. I'd love for their "optimal rejuvination" to be a in a gel format for oiler skins!

I looooove Caudalie Beauty Elixir- it's a staple in my skin-care. But Caudalie's other products aren't "pure".

Leaning toward repurchasing Jurlique for now... wish PSF did not contain parabens. I really like the PSF I have tried...



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Fri May 19, 2006 7:49 pm      Reply with quote
My votes go for the PSF O2 serum and the Juice Beauty blemish serum. I've only used the O2 serum for a few days so I can't comment on it in detail, but so far I love it! It feels great on my face, and it's easy to layer with all my other products. As for the Juice Beauty serum, it's great--- very powerful, but it won't make your face crack and peel like traditional acne creams, and it has lots of good anti-aging ingredients.

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Fri May 19, 2006 8:30 pm      Reply with quote
The PSF O2 Rescue Serum is just stabilized oxygen. This company also sells an oxygen product with no parabens. You can also get the stabilized oxygen liquids in health stores sold for internal use, they have no parabens either.

http://www.zenbiotic.com/DEEP%20CLEANSERS.htm#I&I%20Oxygen

What about The Organic Pharmacy Serums?

They seem fine for oily skins and are very pure.

http://www.theorganicpharmacy.com/product4.php?product_ID=12&product_sub_group_ID=4&product_group_ID=1

http://www.theorganicpharmacy.com/product4.php?product_ID=13&product_sub_group_ID=4&product_group_ID=1

I didn't like Jurlique's Gel, it just felt tight and sticky on my face, I had to wash it off after I applied it.
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Fri May 19, 2006 9:23 pm      Reply with quote
my vote is for is clinical super serum and caudalie radiance serum. Between the two, I think I like is clinical more tho. It feels to be more "all in one" serum.

You are right about juice beauty antioxidant that it is not too powerful. At least for me, I did not see result.

I also tried PSF O2 serum, and did not like it. It did not do anything and it smelled really badly.
I have more success reducing inflammation in cystic acne with oxylight than PSF O2 serum.

good luck.... Let us know what you decide ....
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Sat May 20, 2006 1:30 am      Reply with quote
My vote would be one of the ISC serums but if you are planning to use this instead of a moisturiser then that probably won't do.

How about the Replenix Green Tea (with caffeine) serum? It's a gel - hydrating and high in antioxidants.
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Sat May 20, 2006 4:18 am      Reply with quote
roadtonowhere wrote:
I also tried PSF O2 serum, and did not like it. It did not do anything and it smelled really badly.
I have more success reducing inflammation in cystic acne with oxylight than PSF O2 serum.

good luck.... Let us know what you decide ....
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I just bought the new derma wand that is suppose to be 5 times more effective than the oxylight. I'm loving it! My question is wouldn't the derma wand or oxylight be as just as effective as the PSF serum since both are suppose to add oxygen to the skin?
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Sat May 20, 2006 5:25 am      Reply with quote
BYRG- The Zenbiotics sounds very interesting...have you tried them? I also Iike the Organic Pharmacy gel...is it effective? Where can I order it in the US?

So the ISC serum is getting more votes- does anyone have a full ingredients list on the super serum?

Replenix and Caudalie (except for the elixir) have too much unhealthy ingredients...

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Sun May 21, 2006 12:08 am      Reply with quote
happyhippie - how about Kosmea Eighth Natural Wonder Serum? Lovely stuff!
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MABSY- Sounds great, do you know where do buy it in the US/ Online? Have you tried it- is it ok for oily skin? Better then Jurlique? I'm excited about this line... Very Happy
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Sun May 21, 2006 7:50 am      Reply with quote
Proheal by IS is my vote. Very similar skin and mine loves it. Just started the Juice B Antiox Serum at night to alternate between my Active Serum, but it sounds to me like the results have been pretty nonexistant on it.
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Sun May 21, 2006 8:33 pm      Reply with quote
happyhippie wrote:
MABSY- Sounds great, do you know where do buy it in the US/ Online? Have you tried it- is it ok for oily skin? Better then Jurlique? I'm excited about this line... Very Happy


Ah, that might be the hard part. I do know that you can get Kosmea in the US but I'm not too sure where. The consistency of this is more like a cream/lotion not a gel though, unlike the Jurlique which is a gel. It's not an oily product though so it should be ok. Most of their products are really lovely btw.

Here's one site that sells this: http://www.outletnutrition.com/einaworefase.html I can get it in Australia for AU$45, so if you seriously are thinking of getting this then it might (not sure, depends on postage) turn out cheaper to get it in Australia and send it over. Also, Kosmea make really nice discovery kits that come with travel sizes of their products - might be a better option initially. These retail here at Au$49, but you can get them sometimes for about Au$40.

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Sun May 21, 2006 8:53 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks for the info Mabsy! I'm starting to lean towards the Zenbiotic stuff... wow, their zen serum and lift & firm serum sounds amazing! Expensive stuff, but used in spa's, so it should be pretty good. Anybody tried any of their products?
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Mon May 22, 2006 3:42 pm      Reply with quote
I highly recommend the PSF O2 serum, this product rocks!! It looks and feels like water, but my skin looks awesome when I use it. I like to use it at night prior to my skin treatments.
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Mon May 22, 2006 4:15 pm      Reply with quote
happyhippie if you haven't made up your mind yet, I think that either the IS Clinical Super Serum or the Proheal would be good choices for you. I don't think that they are organic but these serums do not contain parabens.

Here are the complete ingredients:

Super Serum
Ingredients: distilled water, 15% L-ascorbic acid, 0.5% hyaluronic acid, 0.5% arbutin glycoside, pentapeptide amino acid, 0.5% kojic acid, 0.5% vitamin B5, purified centella asiatica extract, zinc sulfate, propylene glycol, phenoxyethanol

Proheal Serum
Ingredients: distilled water, 15% vitamin C, SD alcohol, laureth-4, zinc sulfate, propylene glycol, 1% vitamin E,1% vitamin A, standardized olive leaves extract, 0.5% kojic acid, 0.5% arbutin, soluble bioflavinoids, phenoxyethanol
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Tue May 23, 2006 2:44 am      Reply with quote
TheresaL, I don't think they are the full list of ingredients but rather the key ingredients. I no longer have the box for my Proheal but I remember being surprised when I read the full list of ingredients on the box. I cannot remember what they were but there were far more than what you have listed. Actually, many websites list ingredients but I have found it is not the full list when I have compared it to what is on the packaging.

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Tue May 23, 2006 7:51 am      Reply with quote
WOW! bushy thanks for pointing this out. I got the ingredient lists off of the skinterra website and just assumed they were a complete list because the ingredient lists on EDS and some other websites listed even less ingredients! They even listed the preservatives and stuff on the skinterra site so that further made me believe that they were complete. Confused

I am going to email IS Clinical and ask for a complete ingredient list for the Proheal. I have a sample of this but would definetly want to see the complete list before I buy!
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You're right Bushy Very Happy
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I emailed IS Clinical and Skinterra asking for complete ingredient lists for the Proheal.

IS Clinical replied with the "key ingredient list" even though I asked for a complete one. It even had less ingredients than the lists I posted above!

Skinterra replied that the ingredient lists on their site (the one I copied above) are the "complete" ingredient lists.

I am going to start a new post on this to see if someone can compare the ingredients on their box to those from the skinterra website.
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Wed May 24, 2006 1:35 pm      Reply with quote
From my other post: The Super Serum ingredients listed above are the same as those on the Super Serum package.
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