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Tue May 30, 2006 1:49 am      Reply with quote
My natural colour is a sort of boreing brown that goes a goldeny brown in summer. it's very fine and not much of it. A few months back I had blonde streaks done, very thin ones allover. This made my hair less greasy and the illusion of more hair = very pleased Ruthie feelin gmore vivacious than in ages. Then a month later I was hungover and told the hairdresser she could do what she liked and the lazy stupid xxxx put in more thin blonde streaks allover. The result was that I went more or less completely blonde - platina in places and yellowish in others and dark roots. Looked terrible. Never mind. I couldn't be bothered/was a bit too upset and shocked to go back to complain or do anything about it so I just settled down and got used to it. Now the bulk of my hair is blonde - but not as scary as it was and my roots are 5-7 cm (don't know any other measurement system, sorry - but about the length of my indexfinger Laughing ).

I don't want to go and have my roots dyed blonde, but I like haveing blondeish hair. I would also like to have red and golden brown mixed in. My question is....Is it possible to put these two colours in without the red going pink or orange on top of the blonde...and do you think it's possible to get the colour even without bleaching the hair that is natural???

PLEASE share your knowledge and experiences and thoughts!!! As you can see, I know NOTHING about these things... Laughing

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Tue May 30, 2006 5:27 am      Reply with quote
Most likely the reason she did this was because suddenly you became a more high maintenance customer, having more highlights. Suddenly you need to have your roots done more often to keep up with this new look= more money for her. I really think thats why she chose that route. However, you can easily achieve the new look you're going for without having your roots dyed. They're called lowlights. I prefer aveda concept salons (although I've seen many have had problems with aveda on this board, I have had nothing but great experiences)... but really any salon can perform this service. You just have to explain to your new hairdresser that you don't want you roots dyed lighter you want to blend them in with your hair by creating lowlights over your bleached hair. Then tell her the color lowlights you want. The red and the golden brown. You shouldn't have a problem with the way the colors turn out over the blonde because when people dye their hair funky colors (like the blues and pinks or really whatever) they bleach first so the color is more true. This really isn't that difficult of a job to do if you go to a good trained stylist. They're used to color corrections that turned out hideous from at home mistakes(and yours sounds like it turned out fine, you're just not happy with it).. really should be a piece of a cake for the stylist. I hope you get it the way you want! Very Happy

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Tue May 30, 2006 6:22 am      Reply with quote
Thanx Phoebes - needed some reassuring... but just to be mega sure Laughing ... you think they'll be able to get the colours in the roots and the blonde mess to be the same? Wouldn't it be too funny / exasperating to have pink and orange in the lengths and red and golden in the roots rofl

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Tue May 30, 2006 7:51 am      Reply with quote
Yes, it’s possible to get the red and golden brown streaks blended in with your natural/unnatural hair color, but it’s not something I would recommend that you do at home because there’s too much room for error with the darker roots and previously lightened sections.

If it were me, I would chose to use a single-process hair color at home in ‘light golden brown’ shade (or whatever is closest to your natural shade) and then I would make an appointment with my colorist about five days later to have pale blond, gold, copper, and/or amber or cherry-red “carmelized” highlights. If you are too frightened to apply your own “base” hair color at home, your colorist can do it for you in the salon – they charge a ton more because it’s a double-process coloring which takes longer to achieve.

The reason I suggest waiting a few days between laying down your base light golden brown shade and going to the salon for the carmelized highlights is because it takes a few days after coloring your hair for your hair to “cure” (i.e.: the excess dye to be shampooed out – have you ever dyed your hair and freaked out when you looked in the mirror afterwards because you think it looks way too dark but then a couple of days later it looks great? That’s why!) which will give your colorist an easier time of lightening the streaks that will be highlighted.

The other thing to keep in mind for those carmelized highlights to make sure the colorist takes into account your natural skin color and tone when choosing the highlight shades. Most colorists won’t do this unless the client demands it, but when I go to get my hair colored at the salon, I make the colorist bring over the “portfolio” case with the various hair color swatches inside so I can visually show my colorist what shades I’m talking about so there is no room for miscommunication because my idea of “amber” highlights differs vastly from my colorist’s definition!

Also, if you’ve got the color swatches in front of you, you can actually hold them up to your natural hair color to see how a particular shade is going to work or not with your natural coloring. Just remember that most colorists don’t do this as a matter of course so you have to demand to see the hair color swatches, but it means that there’s less margin of error because both you and the colorist will be speaking the same language, just like how you always get a better haircut when you have a photo to show the stylist rather than relying on some vague description, “I want you to cut off about three inches with lots of layers with straight bangs across the front” and hope that the stylist can read your mind about how you really want to come out looking!

Finally, after you get your salon highlights, it’s ultra important to use the right products to help ensure the color/s stay true. I just posted a laundry list of tips and tricks in another thread so rather than repeat myself, here’s a link to it: http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=110222#110222

Hope this helps!

Sincerely,
CareKate the hair-coloring fool Very Happy

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Tue May 30, 2006 11:39 am      Reply with quote
I was going to suggest getting some lowlights put in as well. I just started getting my hair highlighted a few months back. The first time I had a home colour red on my hair and they put the golden highlights on that. Loved that look. But then my natural colour started to grow in (med brown) and I couldn't last more than 2 months before I had to redo it. This past time I had them do less highlights, but then dye the other hair the same colour as my natural. They could maybe try that with you as well ... do less highlights and then fill in the rest of the hair with a darker colour. Anyway, I'm hoping now that I can leave it atleast 3 months or more before I get it done again. We'll see ... I'm always changing my mind about what colour I want so it's hard to keep the same thing that long. Smile

I also agree that when you want colour changes like this to go to a salon to avoid any problems.
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Tue May 30, 2006 1:43 pm      Reply with quote
You could most definately put golden brown and red highlites put into your hair without having to do your roots blonde.
If you thought that when your hairdresser put too much blonde into your hair and it turned platinum, you could have gone back and tell her to tone the color down. This doesnt require re-bleaching or anything. Just a darker shade of toner.
Where abouts do you live? If you live in Vancouver BC I can suggest to you some awesome stylists in the area that are great in colour corrections.
You also got to remember that red dye fades much faster than any other dye and may turn orangey after a few weeks. Red needs a lot of maintenace to keep it's vivacious red color.
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Wed May 31, 2006 4:05 am      Reply with quote
BCgirl wrote:
You also got to remember that red dye fades much faster than any other dye and may turn orangey after a few weeks. Red needs a lot of maintenace to keep it's vivacious red color.


Also, if you apply red over the previously bleached sections, the color could "grab" unevenly and result in brassy orange or pink highlights and night the gorgeous red you envisioned.

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