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free skin care · Thu May 04, 2006 5:21 pm

I discovered that the downstairs futon is now covered in cat pee.
I clean out the litter box every morning when I feed him, and this morning I thought to myself that I should change it today. But coming home from work tired, I decided not to. I guess it was long overdue since he found another place to piddle. I was mad at first then felt sorry for poor kitty. I know I wouldn't be to happy going potty in a dirty toilet...So I gave him a treat, then took him downstairs and showed him the couch while softly telling him that was not the place to pee!! I then showed him his freshly cleaned litter box...now my dilema is how to get rid of the urine smell. I've given up hope on commercial products for pets. They never seem to work for me. Anyone know of a good home remedy to get rid of the smell and hopefully deter him from going back to the same spot?

free skin care · Thu May 04, 2006 6:00 pm

Cats don't like the citrus smell. I watched a pet show and they suggested rubbing an orange or lemon peel on the area you don't want them to go to. Now for removing the urine stain...have you heard of Oxi Clean? It's good for removing stains.

free skin care · Thu May 04, 2006 6:20 pm

Nature's Miracle?

free skin care · Thu May 04, 2006 6:21 pm

puglove wrote:

Nature's Miracle?

I second natures miracle!!

free skin care · Thu May 04, 2006 6:41 pm

Yeah, that stuff really IS a miracle! Its saved us soooo many times! At least we are using it less and less Dancing

free skin care · Thu May 04, 2006 6:49 pm

Thanks! Where can I buy it?

free skin care · Thu May 04, 2006 7:38 pm

Nothing gets rid of that cat pee smell. If I were you, I'd rent one of those Rug Doctors, or have it professionally cleaned, then treat it with something so he won't pee on it again.

free skin care · Thu May 04, 2006 9:05 pm

kittylove,

I get mine from my local pet store. I'm in Vancouver..so Petcetera or Petsmart.

This stuff is pretty good. Its a cleaner and not a deoderizer or soap. It contains enzymes that actually eat up the smell and neutralizes it. It doesn't mask it. If the smell is gone - and I mean absoloutely gone, the animal won't go back to the same spot because there isn't a trace of it left.

It works really well with my dog, and the bottle shows a cat on it...so I'm assuming it will work for cats Smile

BTW, it comes in a red and white bottle. This stuff is probably the best out there - it also came recommended by our trainer.

HTH!

Smile

free skin care · Fri May 05, 2006 4:49 am

Just a suggestion: you might want to consider if your cat has some sort of health problem that is causing him/her to pee on the futon, especially if it is an elderly cat who might have become incontinent as a result of anything from diabetes to urinary tract infection.

If it's only happened the once, then it's probably kitty's way of telling you to change the litter more often as you speculated, but if you notice it happening all the time and/or in many different places, it might be time for a visit to the vet....

free skin care · Fri May 05, 2006 4:57 am

My parents used to have a cat who just hated to go in a dirty litter tray - if Mum forgot to clean out the litter tray first thing in the morning we all had to tread carefully round the house till we found where she had chosen as the spot of the day Laughing

. A product called "urine-off" seemed to work pretty well.

free skin care · Fri May 05, 2006 4:58 am

Thanks!
Yes, I've been keeping an eye on him and he isn't doing any excess licking and is acting pretty much the same as usual. I checked this morning and the futon is dry and the litter box was used. Very Happy

I actually had someone tell me to 'just get rid of the cat'. Uhh...not an option. This cat is our baby and is part of the family. He gets medical/dental just like the other kids and he's treated...well....like he's our baby!!!

free skin care · Fri May 05, 2006 7:09 am

Hopefully poor kitty was just telling you not to be so lazy.. try a mix of baking soda and water.. or vinegar and water (a little vinegar or ammonia on the sofa will keep him away from it - but no good if you want him to sit on your lap when you are relaxing in it. Laughing

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I had a tom once that was not properly snipped as a kitten and for some reason he LOVED to pee in the closets. It drove my mother insane having to scrub them out to get rid of the smell.

I double what Carrie said regarding odd behaviour. I once noticed my little lady cat having trouble peeing one morning, so thought I would keep an eye on her for the day.. then a couple hours later I was nursing her and she tried to pee on my lap Shock

(but nothing came out). Poor baby.. I rushed her off the vet immediately to get her fixed up. Of course, it was from dried food. The pet food industry should be sued for selling dried food to cats as it totally screws up their urinary tract. I hardly used to give them much dry food but after that I only ever gave them dried fish...funn thing is those dried fish are considered a "snack" in Japan but I gag every time I see someone eating them ... CAT FOOD, kids, CAT FOOD. Laughing

free skin care · Fri May 05, 2006 8:43 am

Tiger_Tim wrote:

The pet food industry should be sued for selling dried food to cats as it totally screws up their urinary tract.

*** WARNING, WARNING, WARNING: ***

Never feed your cat that canned tuna that they sell for pet food!! I’m not talking about “people tuna,” like Starkist or Chicken of the Sea, I’m talking about the cheap, red-colored tuna used exclusively in canned cat food.

I actually unknowingly caused the premature death of my beloved Valentino by feeding him that canned cat food tuna. It was the ONLY thing that Tino would eat! I’m completely serious, he wouldn’t eat any other type or flavor of canned or dry catfood, just that canned cat tuna, half a can for breakfast and the other half for dinner.

The reason it killed him was because the red tuna that they use in pet food is FULL of magnesium – dangerous levels of it, in fact – and buildup of magnesium in the cat’s system is the number #1 cause of urinary tract infection. Because canned cat tuna was the only thing he ever eat, by the time Tino was 18 months old his kidneys and bladder became so severely blocked to the point where he was in unspeakable pain and toxins were building up in his system (they don't have dialysis for cats!) because he was unable to urinate and there was absolutely nothing the vet could do to save him.

I had to put my 1 ½ year old “son” down that day because I had killed him with kindness by feeding him his favorite food every single day of his life!! I had no earthly idea that that type of tuna was dangerous to our feline and – to a lesser degree – canine friends because it’s not something they advertise. I mean, there’s no warning label on a can of cat food, you know?! It took me a l-o-n-g time to get over the guilt of that....

That was nearly 20 years ago and ever since that time I absolutely refuse to feed any of my cats any of that canned pet food tuna. I mean, I wouldn’t even buy it for them as an occasional meal because I was so paranoid that even that would cause my cats irreparable harm! Sometimes I will give them a bit of “people” tuna as a treat, but never the canned cat food kind. I won’t even allow them to eat any tuna-flavored dry food!

I BESEECH all of the cat owners on the forum to learn from my mistake and never feed your furry pal any canned tuna that is sold as pet food because you will be guaranteeing that your cat will suffer from UTD, if not downright hastening his early departure from your family.

Also, as Tiger_Tim alluded to above, please be extremely careful what type of dry ‘kibble’ that you feed your cat. Check the label carefully for excessive magnesium content because that’ll kill your cat just as quickly as the canned tuna.

Just like most cat owners (in America, anyway -- the rest of the world is apparently more enlightened) don't know what the procedure for de-clawing a cat truly entails (click here to find out: http://www.theanimalspirit.com/declaw.html), neither do they know that high levels of magnesium in pet food will cause severe kidney and/or bladder problems for kitty, as well.

Please don't make the same mistake that I did.

free skin care · Fri May 05, 2006 9:48 am

Oh Carrie! That would have been an awful thing to have happened. Every visit back to Australia I buy $30 worth of cat food for the shelter that took in my babies when they needed a home.. I must make sure there is no tuna in it (then again, I cannot remember ever even seeing tin tuna for cats.. it is mostly herring I think in Australia)

free skin care · Fri May 05, 2006 10:38 am

Kitty Lover,

I've used nature's miracle for both cat and dog accidents. It does work, as long as it can reach the source of the odor. For a futon, I would remove the cover and wash it if you can. You can add Nature's Miracle to the wash cycle. Then make sure you put enough of the Nature's Miracle on the futon that it soaks in as far as the cat pee is. (You figure, unless you caught the cat 'in the act', the pee has probably soaked down a couple inches into the foam of the futon.) Make sure where you applied stays damp for 24 hours, (you can throw a piece of plastic wrap over the area.) then you can remove the plastic. It will take a couple of days to a couple weeks for the inside of the futon to dry. It will also smell while it's working, but don't worry the smell will go away as the product drys. If you still smell the urine, it probably means the liquid didn't reach the urine completely.

You can also add it to a steam cleaner if you have a upholstery attachment.

IMPORTANT: Make sure you color test the area first.

I've bought it at PetSmart, and Petco. It works great at getting rid of the doggy smell from the blankets in the kennel too.

free skin care · Fri May 05, 2006 3:47 pm

Oh no, Carrie, really??? Shock

Cat tuna? My little girl (my kitty) loves this stuff. I feed her about 2-3 Tbsp of it 2x a day with her dry food. The only cat tuna that I have ever bought is from Trader Joes and I can't imagine that they would sell this stuff if it did that. I am DEFINITELY going to stop feeding Kiki this. I would NEVER want to do her harm!!!!!!

Thanks for the info- SO APPRECIATE IT!!!!!

And kittylove, I believe it is Nature's Miracle that I have used in the past as well. The important ingredient is Enzymes. And sorry to say, cat urine is very difficult to get out. My parents had to replace the carpet in one of their rentals after a tenant moved out b/c her cat made a litter box out of the upstairs bedroom. When we were treating the spots and trying to salvage the carpet we ended up spotting the ceiling downstairs because the liquid from theproduct we used leaked through (then we had to paint the ceiling).

There's another product that my family has used for pet urine that has worked well also. I wish I could remember the name of it. I will try to find out and report back.

free skin care · Fri May 05, 2006 11:52 pm

carekate wrote:

Tino was 18 months old his kidneys and bladder became so severely blocked to the point where he was in unspeakable pain and toxins were building up in his system (they don't have dialysis for cats!) because he was unable to urinate and there was absolutely nothing the vet could do to save him.

Hi carekate,

So sorry to hear about Tino. When you say toxins building up, did Tino ended up with acute kidney failure or was he blocked? I work in an animal hospital so I am eager to know what was the diagnosis?

I also treat my cat an occasional can of cat tuna from trader joe's Shock

The rest of the time she is on a low fat high fiber prescription diet.

Thanks!

free skin care · Sat May 06, 2006 12:00 pm

just to let you guys know nature's miracle also works on people pee smells.

my brother has a friend who still has trouble with wetting the bed.

my parents bought a special sheet for my brother's bed, and this kid is supposed to sleep there when he stays over, but twice he and my brother have slept on the couches after a video game/movie spree.

*grumble* the first time, you can forgive/forget. the second? now i'm irritated (these kids are 13 on the cusp of 14)

we've known this poor kid since he was like, 3 or so. and i know he's had a rough, unstable upbringing. so i don't blame him for his problem.

however, i am mad that he's old enough to know about the problem, knows that there's a system in place at our house and they STILL sleep on the couch.

(my brother didn't escape my wrath either)

so yah, nature's miracle, works on ALL kinds of urine Razz

free skin care · Tue May 30, 2006 7:19 am

mtview wrote:

carekate wrote:

Tino was 18 months old his kidneys and bladder became so severely blocked to the point where he was in unspeakable pain and toxins were building up in his system (they don't have dialysis for cats!) because he was unable to urinate and there was absolutely nothing the vet could do to save him.

Hi carekate,

So sorry to hear about Tino. When you say toxins building up, did Tino ended up with acute kidney failure or was he blocked? I work in an animal hospital so I am eager to know what was the diagnosis?

Just realized that I hadn't answered your question before now Embarassed

The vet diagnosed Tino with acute kidney failure from the magnesium build-up in his system from the canned (red) catfood tuna.

free skin care · Tue May 30, 2006 5:38 pm

Hi carekate,

Thanks for the info. Veterinary science has made a lot of advances lately and I have actually met a few cats with kidney transplant. However, it cost a lot of money and the cat has to be stable enough to endure the surgery and a donor available. There are also dialysis available nowadays.

I have seen a cat that lived to be 32 years old Shock

Wish everyone's pets live a long and health life.

free skin care · Tue May 30, 2006 5:38 pm

Acute Renal Disease is the "disease" itself, Acute Renal Failure is the cause of death.

One of my (two) cats was diagnosed with Acute Renal Disease over two years ago. I always fed my cats nutritious food. Their diet was Science Diet dry food plus canned tuna flavoured 'wet food' for cats. Then one day one of my cats started throwing up. It wasn't hairballs or enzymes it was food and everything else. Nearly every time that she ate something she would throw it all up. She started to shed more than she normally did and she would seclude herself from me and our other cat. I was very concerned so we took her to the vet. She said that my cat had high levels of toxins in her system and (at the time) she would most likely be dead in a few months. I broke down like a baby right there in the office. I lost it. I wanted to know what could be done if anything at all. My cat was the receive a half tablet of Fortekor (for renal kidney disease) EVERY night orally. Her diet was to totally change. We started to feed her Science Diet KD which means "Kidney Disease" and nothing else, ever! No tuna, no chicken, nothing. Her life was at risk. She was angry over this of course but she has been checked many times since that horrible day over two years ago and her kidney functions (though advanced for her age) are doing well. She's still alive and thriving and that's what matters to me.

The point of my story is that the vet said that she fully believed that the reason for this problem was because of the wet cat food that claims to have "Tuna, or Tuna flavoured". She said that it is a disaster for cats. Canned Tuna for HUMAN consumption has to pass regulations in most countries. Canned Tuna or Tuna flavored (who knows what) that is sold as cat food, does not!

Don't make your cat suffer this way. IF you are going to give your cat REAL Tuna (the kind that you would eat) then mix it in with it's normal food. Give it as a treat only. Too much Omega rich fish is deadly for cats. Their systems are so much smaller than ours.

free skin care · Tue May 30, 2006 7:12 pm

Wow, Anna_in_Sweden, that's awesome that your baby is doing so well! I had my beloved tomcat die of kidney disease about 7 years ago. It was so heartbreaking! I always fed him the really expensive dried catfood too but I guess some cats are more prone to the disease than others.

We have a cat right now that we are having the same problems with as far as not peeing in the catbox. He has NEVER done this before -- he's been a GREAT kitty! Well, I took him in immediately to the vet after he peed on our carpet three days in a row. Sure enough, he had a urinary tract infection. He's finished his round of antibiotics but he's still sneaking down and peeing on the carpet unless we watch him carefully. I've got to take him in again this week. I'm not sure he's better. It's so unlike him!

We are about ready to have a baby any day now and this is an unfortunate thing to have to deal with right now. My husband is sooooooo frustrated with this situation because he has to steam vac every time our kitty pees and we have soooo much else to do. I sure hope we can figure this out.

I would definitely take your cat in to be checked, though. You never know!

Good luck!

free skin care · Tue May 30, 2006 9:30 pm

I looked at the label of Trader Joe's "Tuna for Cats". It says that it contains 0% magnesium. Do you think this means that there is no magnesium added and that the tuna itself might still contain magnesium or does this mean they do not use tuna that contains magnesium at all? I am going to call the Trader Joe company directly and ask.

I still can't get over the fact that the animal food industry sells products that can be so bad for pets. I know that for dog food, many factories add corn meal to the formula to keep their machines from clogging. And dogs cannot digest corn meal very well. Poor doggies!

free skin care · Wed May 31, 2006 3:55 am

ellyp wrote:

We have a cat right now that we are having the same problems with as far as not peeing in the catbox. He has NEVER done this before -- he's been a GREAT kitty! Well, I took him in immediately to the vet after he peed on our carpet three days in a row. Sure enough, he had a urinary tract infection. He's finished his round of antibiotics but he's still sneaking down and peeing on the carpet unless we watch him carefully. I've got to take him in again this week. I'm not sure he's better. It's so unlike him!

We are about ready to have a baby any day now and this is an unfortunate thing to have to deal with right now. My husband is sooooooo frustrated with this situation because he has to steam vac every time our kitty pees and we have soooo much else to do. I sure hope we can figure this out.

I would definitely take your cat in to be checked, though. You never know!

Good luck!

I would guess that the coming baby also has something to do with kitty's misbehavior -- they get jealous!! Embarassed

Kitty was the first "baby" in the household and he doesn't appreciate being usurped. I realize it's difficult at this time -- and even more so after baby arrives -- but make sure you set some time aside to give his daily dose of affection to keep the bathroom "accidents" to a minimum. When I was pregnant with my son, Tino used to love to lie across my stomach -- I always thought it was because he could hear the baby's heartbeat. After my son was born, Tino was NOT happy! He started leaving "presents" in the bathtub and he'd yark up a hairball in strategic locations where I wouldn't find it for a while until it had a chance to molder and get "petrified." And all of his misbehavior was a direct result of the fact that I wasn't paying as much attention to him as I did before the baby arrived.

Therefore my guess is that now that kitty has recovered from the UTI, he's realized that peeing on the carpet is going to get him some attention -- even if it is negative attention! Shock

Cats are very much like kindergarten children, aren't they?!

free skin care · Wed May 31, 2006 3:58 am

amnis wrote:

I looked at the label of Trader Joe's "Tuna for Cats". It says that it contains 0% magnesium. Do you think this means that there is no magnesium added and that the tuna itself might still contain magnesium or does this mean they do not use tuna that contains magnesium at all? I am going to call the Trader Joe company directly and ask.

I still can't get over the fact that the animal food industry sells products that can be so bad for pets. I know that for dog food, many factories add corn meal to the formula to keep their machines from clogging. And dogs cannot digest corn meal very well. Poor doggies!

It's the red tuna that is dangerous. The actual tuna flakes are RED in color. People tuna from Starkist or Chicken of the Sea is white or very pale pinkish, but the stuff they use in catfood is red in color -- you'll know it when you see it and that's the stuff to avoid at all costs.

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