When to start using Vit C serum&Eye wrinkle cream + more
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free skin care · Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:11 pm

I have been reading over some previous posts made on EDS and came across a few things I would love to have cleared up for me, as I'm a bit new to skincare regimens and such Embarassed

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I've read that people in their early 20's (or in my case, reaching 20) need to start taking preventative measures NOW for their skin.

I've found that we should start using Vitamin C serum and an eye wrinkle cream plus using sunscreen, fish oil supplements, etc. But I thought that starting wrinkle cream at an early age can cause the skin to 'get used to' the product therefore cause less of an impact in later years. So here are my questions:

1. How do you use Vitamin C serum?
2. Where does it go on the face?
3. Does it replace a moisturizer?
4. What exactly does it do?
5. Why start eye wrinkle cream now?
6. What is a moderatly priced eye cream that I should start using (found in drugstores, maybe?)?
7. Should I start using a more 'mature' face moisturizer (Currently I'm still using Clean & Clear Morning Glow with spf 15. The same stuff I was using in middle through high school).
8. What is fish oil good for, when it comes to skin?

That's all that comes to mind at the moment. If I think of anymore, I will post them up. Thank you all so much in advance for any advice you may have concering these issues and for helping me figure these things out! And again, sorry for being such a newbie with this stuff Anxious

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-Marianna

free skin care · Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:56 pm

Hi Marianna,

It is my personal opinion that at your age you should be using a gentle non foaming cleanser, a light moisturizing lotion and sunscreen.

Those are the basics and if you find the right one for you, your skin will be clean, fresh and protected from the sun.

If you want to "play" a bit you could add a serum (one that can be used on both face and eye area would be ideal) and a weekly mask or gentle exfoliation product.

I would say that if you use too much you will just be tossing your money out the window, because you do not need it... But you should care for your skin now as a preventative...

I personally like Ice Elements, but at your age I used Aloette pretty religiously and then when my mother sold Mary Kay I used that...

I think that younger skin, especially skin that is in good condition, can use just about anything... so do not worry about high priced products, but do use products that are gentle as over time your skin will be better for it. That is why I am drawn to aloe based products. I believe that my skin gets a lot from all of the positive aspects of aloe.

If you have never used skin care before you could learn a lot from watching some of the product demonstrations on television or learn hands on at a home party where they let you do your own... not sure if Aloette and Mary Kay still do this or not... If you do go the home party route, don't let yourself get sucking into purchasing a huge amount of product that you do not need... Just purchase an item or 2 that interests you.

Take care.

free skin care · Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:58 pm

Ooops, almost forgot, here is a great link about skin health and supplements:

http://tinyurl.com/qswfh

free skin care · Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:03 am

At your age, I consider the most important items you could use are a good cleanser, moisturiser, eye cream or gel and sunscreen.
These items would depend on your skin type (eg oily, dry etc). I am not so sure that you really specifically need Vit C yet.
If you could afford it, then I would go for the quality brands, like cellcosmet or valmont, but if they are out of your budget then try to choose drug store brands that are made for your age group and skin type. Whatever you do, don't use products that will strip your skin (harsh peels and even strong Vit C).
If I could go back to your age again, then I would save a few dollars and spend it just on a quality cleanser, moisturiser and eye cream like Cellcosmet or Valmont and a suitable sunscreen. Although they are expensive to start, they normally last a while because only small amounts are needed. You could end up spending 10 times more just on drug store brands and throwing them away because they don't suit your skin or they cause problems. However, there are still some good drug store and other brands that are good but I can't name them, I'm sorry because I am from such a different age group.
Hopefully others on the forum will have advice as well which may suit. Best of luck.

free skin care · Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:19 am

Bosoxy wrote:

It is my personal opinion that at your age you should be using a gentle non foaming cleanser, a light moisturizing lotion and sunscreen.

What do you mean by non foaming?

Bosoxy wrote:

I would say that if you use too much you will just be tossing your money out the window, because you do not need it... But you should care for your skin now as a preventative...

I totally agree with that statement, lol Smile

Bosoxy wrote:

If you have never used skin care before you could learn a lot from watching some of the product demonstrations on television or learn hands on at a home party where they let you do your own... not sure if Aloette and Mary Kay still do this or not... If you do go the home party route, don't let yourself get sucking into purchasing a huge amount of product that you do not need... Just purchase an item or 2 that interests you.

I've used skin care before and amazingly I believe that I've been to a ' home party' in the past as well Cool

. But either way, I'm not one to buy an expensive product without AMAZING reviews on it (not exactly one to buy an expensive product period since I'm in my junior year of college).

free skin care · Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:24 am

bushy wrote:

At your age, I consider the most important items you could use are a good cleanser, moisturiser, eye cream or gel and sunscreen.

Why an eye cream so early?

Otherwise, thank you both for responding so soon, lol. I'm off to bed. We will see what other info I get on this in the morning.

free skin care · Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:28 am

Hi!

A non foaming cleanser is one that does not have any surfactants in it... so it does not lather up or get sudsy.

If you are used to using a foaming cleanser it may take a bit to get used to using one that does not foam, but it is a lot better for your skin and once you get used to it your skin will be glad that you did!

Not only do surfactants dry out the skin but they also effect the absorbtion of the ingredients into the skin so that the total benefits of certain ingredients cannot be realized.

I think that the reason why many companies still use surfactants is because the consumer is used to the foam and some think that the foam is what does the cleansing.

free skin care · Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:30 am

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Why an eye cream so early?

I wouldn't say you need moisturiser for the rest of your face (I tend to agree with you that it might slow down your face producing it's own oils) but the eye area has no oil producing glands. A fact I knew nothing about until I was a lot older.

free skin care · Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:28 am

There are two ways to avoid wrinkles - moisturiser and sunscreen. The eye area is one of the first to show signs of aging. Look after it now and you'll be thankful later in life.

free skin care · Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:39 am

Bosoxy, saddly enough, I don't usually use a cleanser regularly Embarassed

. I know I should be, but all of the cleansers that I have tried have dried out my skin. Even now, when I wash my face in the morning and at night with water, my skin still feels like it needs moisture. (but I don't really have dry skin. Once I moisturize, I'm good to go and the drieness doesn't reappear until I wash my face).

The reason I still find it ok to be using water (for now)for cleansing is because my daily routine consists of a moisturizer/ mascara/and eyeliner-->trying to cut back on that Smile

. But as you can see, I don't use concealer or foundation, so all I'm washing off my face is natural oils and the moisturizer.

But, if there really is a cleanser that moisturizes the skin, I would try it for sure (suggestions would be great, lol) since water dries out my skin as well.

I seem needy don't I. I guess it's just because I haven't had much luck with that sort of stuff Anxious

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free skin care · Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:46 am

bushy wrote:

There are two ways to avoid wrinkles - moisturiser and sunscreen. The eye area is one of the first to show signs of aging. Look after it now and you'll be thankful later in life.

Makes sense!!! But does it have to be an eye wrinkle cream? Can't this just be a rich moisturizer (such as Nivea Creme). Or does putting such a product on the eye area have a chance of a rash/ reaction devloping, therefore using product made specifically for that area have less of a chance of irritation?

Molly wrote:

but the eye area has no oil producing glands. A fact I knew nothing about until I was a lot older.

I didn't know this either untill I started looking into this yesterday Embarassed

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free skin care · Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:52 pm

The eye cream does not have to be specifically a wrinkle cream but unless the moisturiser is safe to use around your eyes then you will need a moisturiser specific to the eyes. It doesn't even have to be a cream as there are some very good gels as well.

free skin care · Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:46 pm

bushy wrote:

The eye cream does not have to be specifically a wrinkle cream but unless the moisturiser is safe to use around your eyes then you will need a moisturiser specific to the eyes. It doesn't even have to be a cream as there are some very good gels as well.

Ok, that makes sense!!! Thanks for clearing that up for me Very Happy

. That makes it a little bit easier since I can look for a moisturizer for the eye area which will probably be cheaper than one thats made to fight wrinkles on the area.

free skin care · Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:56 pm

Hi,

Just wanted to say that I only used a cleanser, and a moisturizer with spf until I graduated from college. I then started using more expensive brands that worked better and added a vitamin C serum to my routine. It wasn't until I was 27 that I started to use an eye cream because I started noticing fine lines under my eyes due to the fact I had just had a baby and no sleep. I am now 29 and have also added retinol to my routine. Many people think I look like I'm in high school, but I still wish I would have started the eye cream earlier and not sunbathed in college so much. I think If you stay out of the sun you'll be fine.

free skin care · Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:21 pm

I'm almost 21 and I'd have to say IMO the best preventative measure is to keep your skin moisturized. People who have oily skin tend to have less wrinkles (which really makes sense when you think about it). Eye creams are important but I am careful about using things that may end up being too oily for me so I stick with eye gels which provide my skin type with enough moisture, if you generally have good skin you just need to find a good brand and stick with it.

You can look into Nature by Valmont, it's a line dedicated for those under 30 to prevent aging but simply put it's a hydrating line. However it is a good one to check out.

I'm not sure about Vitamin C serums but I'm sure those are good for any skin and not just aging skin, I think you should talk to an esthetician or a beautician regarding your skin because you wouldn't want products on your skin that may be too much for you - you might end up breaking out or something.

IMHO I think aging products target specific problems, like specific eye creams may state that they "plump" up wrinkles or "lift" or get rid of crow's feet. If you don't have any of those I'm not sure what the eye cream can do for you.

Bottom line I think is choose products that provide optimal moisture for your skin! You can also look into PSF's HA serum, it states that HA provides a moisture barrier for your skin and enhances the absorption of your moisturizers, this may be a very good preventative product.

HTH

free skin care · Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:04 pm

adrianaL wrote:

Hi,

Just wanted to say that I only used a cleanser, and a moisturizer with spf until I graduated from college. I then started using more expensive brands that worked better and added a vitamin C serum to my routine. It wasn't until I was 27 that I started to use an eye cream because I started noticing fine lines under my eyes due to the fact I had just had a baby and no sleep. I am now 29 and have also added retinol to my routine. Many people think I look like I'm in high school, but I still wish I would have started the eye cream earlier and not sunbathed in college so much. I think If you stay out of the sun you'll be fine.

It seems like you kept your routine fairly simple until you felt like you needed to add something extra. I like that. Will definetly keep it im mind for later, lol.

The eye cream is something I will be looking into as well as finding some sort of moisturizing cleanser (if there is such a thing, let me know please).

sormuimui wrote:

Bottom line I think is choose products that provide optimal moisture for your skin!

I think that thats the best thing I can do for my skin now. Thanks for the advice!

free skin care · Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:51 am

girldelvov wrote:

But, if there really is a cleanser that moisturizes the skin, I would try it for sure (suggestions would be great, lol) since water dries out my skin as well.

I seem needy don't I. I guess it's just because I haven't had much luck with that sort of stuff Anxious

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Ice Elements normal to dry cream cleanser is a hydrating cleanser. It contains ingredients such as pharmecuetical grade aloe vera and squalane and no water.

To use the cleanser I put it on my face dry, massage it in then lightly dampen my fingers and massage a bit more and then wipe off with a damp cloth. I really think that you would like it based on your needs.

I am not sure if the cleanser alone would give you enough moisture for your eye area to go without a cream... but if you would really rather not use one you could ask Shelly over at Ice Elements what she thinks, if you decide to go with this product for your cleansing needs.

free skin care · Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:17 am

girldelvov wrote:

Bosoxy, saddly enough, I don't usually use a cleanser regularly Embarassed

. I know I should be, but all of the cleansers that I have tried have dried out my skin. Even now, when I wash my face in the morning and at night with water, my skin still feels like it needs moisture. (but I don't really have dry skin. Once I moisturize, I'm good to go and the drieness doesn't reappear until I wash my face).

The reason I still find it ok to be using water (for now)for cleansing is because my daily routine consists of a moisturizer/ mascara/and eyeliner-->trying to cut back on that Smile

. But as you can see, I don't use concealer or foundation, so all I'm washing off my face is natural oils and the moisturizer.

But, if there really is a cleanser that moisturizes the skin, I would try it for sure (suggestions would be great, lol) since water dries out my skin as well.

I seem needy don't I. I guess it's just because I haven't had much luck with that sort of stuff Anxious

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I have had the same problem with trying to find a cleanser that will not dry my skin. I have actually found two of them recently.
Cellocosmet Purifying Gel cleanser does a great job of cleansing without drying.
Yonka Cleansing Cream, this actually leaves my skin feeling moist without the feeling that it is leaving a residue on my skin.
HTH

free skin care · Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:24 pm

Hi Girldelvov

I was like you when I was in my teens and twenties. Half the time I didn't use cleansers - just water. I didn't like either the residue and/or the drying feel of some of them.

In fact I think I was right not to use if they made my skin feel uncomfortable it''s a good sign that the cleanser isn't right for you. There are some good, gentle ones, but I'm afraid you have to kiss a lot of frogs before you find your prince.

On the other hand I didn't use moisturiser either so there was nothing to wash off and my skin was very well balanced so I didn't suffer from acne or dryness. (By the way, I'm not as ugly as I might seem from my footer - those problems are just my personal focus. I don't think it did me any harm at all not washing not moisturing especially with bad products, although more regular SPF protection, not just on the beach, might have benefitted me later in life)

I saw you mentioned Nivea. Some moisturisers are actually worse for your skin than not using any at all. I'll give you this link for an explanation.
http://www.skinbio.com/quickmoisturizers.html

It's a good explanation, but don't take what this man says too literally, he's very one-sided and a bit meladramatic. I certainly don't agree with him that all commercial moisturisers are bad. But it is true that some moisturisers are good for you and some aren't, which is why we are picky.

So my point is just buying any old cheap moisturiser really won't do you any good and might even be detrimental.

Molly Wink

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