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Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:06 pm |
Hi everyone,
i went to my local macy's shiseido counter yesterday for a free skin analysis. the makeup girl there had a machine that magnifies your skin that can then be viewed on a screen. my skin looked so sick when magnified and there were red spots everywhere and the girl said all the red spots were signs of sun damage. i kinda find that hard to believe because i thought you could only see such sun damage (besides visible freckles and wrinkling) on a UV camera picture.
"The UV camera briefly shines ultraviolet light on the face. UV light is able to penetrate 1.5-2.0 millimeters under the visible dead layer of skin and focus on the actual living portion where sun damage originates. Abnormal skin cells absorb ultraviolet light. Sun damage will appear in the picture as dark freckling. The more sun damage, the more widespread the spots. This is not simply an exaggeration of normally visible freckles. Instead, sun damage not visible to the naked eye is there for the world to see in a photo." from http://www.dermadoctor.com/pages/newsletter154.asp?WID=%7B28B243BD-82F1-4C92-BA3E-2447D89F2113%7D
anyhow, does anyone know if what she says is true? i usually don't believe the makeup sales people because i find in my experience, overall, they know very little about skin or skin care.
btw, anyone ever taken a picture of their skin under a uv camera? i am interested in getting this done.
any input would be great, thanks! |
_________________ about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:00 pm |
I am sorry I can not answer your question - but my guess is if anyone of us went under that magnify we will all have those red spots - even the sales girl. I guess there is no escape, even with sunscreen!
What did the Sales girl recommend? |
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Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:11 pm |
Hi had this same thing done to me at a Shiseido counter--with the same result. I was quite horrified!
The sales girl wanted me to buy their products, of course! I told her I used jojoba oil on my face, and she screwed up her face like she just got a whiff of a bad smell...
Later when I left (without buying anything), she said, "Psst! Don't use jojoba oil on your face!"  |
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Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:19 pm |
rashirosey--yeah, i suspect everyone has red spots, but i doubt they are from sun damage like the sales girl said though. it just doesn't make sense if you read the link to the article i linked at top. that kind of sun damage cannot be viewed but a UV camera. i don't think there's anything more i can for sun protection that the sales girl could recommend though. i avoid the sun, wear hats, apply vitamin c serum and apply physical sunscreen with zinc oxide with spf 30 or 50 pa+++. i don't think she expected me to know a whole lot about skin, and i had been a long time user of shiseido (and currently, it's not my favorite, i think there are other higher quality japanese brands for my skin type).
i am a little peeved that she is going around telling everyone the red spots are sun damage when i am sure it's not.
PocoLoco--HAHA. most of them don't know very much at all!
anyone know if the spots are sun damage? i still think that type of damage can only be seen under a uv camera. |
_________________ about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:42 am |
i think it'd only be human to see red spots up close on the skin of anyone. I don't think it would have to be pinpointed as sundamage...perhaps they are related to capillaries being dilated under the skin...perhaps she lied a little to concern you about your skin and buy into some of the products there? At least you are not like me and get random big red spots on your skin..i call them blood blisters. Luckily i have none on my face.. |
_________________ Extremely fair/sensitive skin(mild rosacea)that burns very easy.acne is rare/skin is dry.27 years old. |
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:00 pm |
purpleturtle--yeah, she did seem kinda disappointed when i told her i am a longtime shiseido user. hopefully, her telling me so was a mistake on her part, cause lying for me to buy is mean! i am gonna probably go to a dermatolgist to get my face photographed with a UV camera and i will find out what the red spots are for sure.
what kinda blood blisters do you get on your skin? |
_________________ about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:06 pm |
yeah..definitely see a dermotologist if you are concerned. i don't know if they are exactly blood blisters..but they are red dots I get under my skin. some are only visible enough for me to notice, but I have a couple that are like a half cm in diameter and are slightly elevated, hence i call them blisters. Once i got fed up and tried to get rid of it with a needle and all it did was bleed. never went away..they run in my family. We are all really fair so im thinking thats a reason why we get them. If you took any fair complexioned person under that machine you speak of im sure we'd all have a million red dots. us pink people are so sensitive...i detest broken capillaries as well. |
_________________ Extremely fair/sensitive skin(mild rosacea)that burns very easy.acne is rare/skin is dry.27 years old. |
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