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Mabsy
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:09 pm  |
Thanks Molly!  |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:57 pm |
| You are brave to tackle such a topic. Sunscreens is a hotly debated topic on the skinboard on MUA. |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:03 pm |
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| Sunscreens is a hotly debated topic on the skinboard on MUA. |
We've had some of that here too Autumn in the past, believe me!  but the discussions seem less confrontational over it these days so I didn't feel it was too risky.
What are the main points people argue about over there? Just out of interest.
Molly  |
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:10 am |
Thanks Molly. I've learnt a lot more about ss. Problem is I don't know what type of ss I have as I have thrown away the box.
I didn't know that I can't use ss on top of spf moisturer. I've been doing this for a while
On another note, as I am new to forums, how do I poll? I've looked everywhere but I can't find any buttons etc. |
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:11 am |
| Well I just found out. I don't why those boxes didn't pop up earlier. |
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:16 am |
Hi ninetynine
You can wear moisturiser underneath physical and euro SS as long as you don't choose one with conflicting SS chemicals in it. Most do wear moisturiser. I only said it wasn't tested like that. It 'might' not be so good under the older chemical screens because they absorb a bit to work, but it's only a might. Maybe I should clarify that.
If you tell us your brand. I'm sure we can tell you what kind it is?
Molly |
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:24 am |
| The sunscreen article at cosmetic cop is the definitive for me. |
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:42 pm |
Well I definately learned alot that I didn't know,, thanx  |
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:57 pm |
Thanks Natz
SusieQ, thanks for the link. I just wanted to give simple answers to the questions we get asked here regularly, but we will add links for further info. Although I seem to remember I found her comments on high PPD SS not very well informed. I'll look again though. It was some time ago. |
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:27 pm |
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| Sunscreens is a hotly debated topic on the skinboard on MUA. |
We've had some of that here too Autumn in the past, believe me! but the discussions seem less confrontational over it these days so I didn't feel it was too risky.
What are the main points people argue about over there? Just out of interest.
Molly |
While I like MUA sunscreen is discussed just too much on the skincare board! It is taken as a very serious topic there.
The issue of stable vs unstable is always discussed and PPD values. While it is important to realize that some filters are better than others for blocking UVA this is a major discussion daily. Also most don't agree on if sunscreen should be worn ALL the time; indoors vs outdoors. Also disagreement on UV emitted from computer screens; if you have an office with a window how much UV are you getting, etc. Also major discussions on makeup and sunscreen and how much time you should have in between applications.
Some MUA's will have links to dermotology sites/medical links with the science of sunscreen (filters or actives and graphs) and can overwhelm newbies!
Also if you admit to not wearing sunscreen daily or worse trying to tan; watch out! Or if you wear a sunscreen that is not a high PPD one someone will suggest you should.
I have been a member of MUA for over 3 years and the sunscreen issue has always been much discussed. I don't see it changing much. |
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:46 pm |
Hi Autumn
I see. To be honest there have been similar kinds of flare up here over pretty much the same issues. I've even seen threads from the earliest days of EDS, before I was here, where people got quite ugly with each other.
It used to be the case here that if you admitted you didn't use SS or a high PPD SS you'd sometimes get told off, but these days it seems to me we've settled into groups of users - some mineral, some high PPD, some organic/naturals and people seem tolerant of each others views. I don't think most people are uninformed; they just make their own choices based on the practical side of things and their own beliefs about UV (research doesn't seem to agree on that) and lifestyle choices.
The only one that hasn't been hotly debated here is the stable/unstable issue. Maybe I should add a paragraph about that. I think the MUA sunscreen FAQ gives some good pointers as to which brands are stable.
Hopefully this will change though as high PPD brands become available in the US. I don't think photostability is such a big issue when you're buying in the UK, though it used to be when we first had a choice of old filters and new filters.
Thanks, that's interesting.
Molly |
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:13 pm |
MUA does have some good notepads with some information on the type of active ingredient filters. Nora80 compiled a list of recommended sunscreens including US/Cdn drugstore/department store years ago. It is basic list that is practical. While some MUA have no issue ordering sunscreen from overseas and/or Ebay most people do not want to do that.
Also if you look at the sunscreen reviews on productville it gives you an idea of what sunscreens seem to be working for people.
I think everyone wants the information and then they can decide from there for themselves. I do know that some people are HIGHLY sensitive to chemical filters in sunscreen and have limited choices. Also if you are acne prone and/or roscea sunscreen can be a problem.
while I think sunscreen is important I really don't want to be a sunscreen cop on a forum! |
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:19 pm |
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| I really don't want to be a sunscreen cop on a forum! |
- that's makes two of us 
'sunscreen cop', that's what they are! I hadn't thought of it like that before. |
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:41 pm |
| thanks so much for all the info you've in Molly! thumbs up!! |
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Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:10 pm |
| Very useful information - makes us more aware.... |
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Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:14 am |
Hi Molly
I managed to find another box of sunscreen. It's Lancome's UV Expert with a UVA PA+++ rating and UVB SPF50 rating. No mention of PPD. I spent 5 minutes looking at the ingredients which did not give me an idea whether it was physical, chemical or Euro ss and lo and behold, what do I find staring me in the face, on the front of the box it says "Mexoryl SX + Memoryl XL". I suppose this is a Euro ss.
I usually put on my day cream which is SPF15 and then the ss. The moisturiser is Lancome Absolue Replenishing Fluid. I have no idea what type of ss this is. Should I continue using this moisturiser and the UV Expert as I don't want to have free radicals on my face  |
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