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Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:52 pm  |
Hi - I'm wondering if any one has used both and can compare the two. Candy's gotten a lot of raves for her products and her prices are compelling. Plus, she's a woman, valued forum member and entrepreneur -- bonuses!
I've used SkinCeuticals CE+Ferulic for well over a year and really like it. I tried SC Serum20 AOX this summer and while it satisfied my quest to find something less oily, my skin didn't look quite as nice -- it must've missed the Vit.E. The price is a bit killing though so if Candessence is as good, I'm game. |
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Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:33 pm |
I think I'm going to add one to my order for bath/body stuff and give it to my secretary. She definitely needs a Vitamin C product and I'm too cheap to buy her anything from IS Clinical  .
Can't beat Candy's prices! |
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Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:39 pm |
| katee wrote: |
I think I'm going to add one to my order for bath/body stuff and give it to my secretary. She definitely needs a Vitamin C product and I'm too cheap to buy her anything from IS Clinical .
Can't beat Candy's prices! |
Katee darlin...you are anything but cheap, my bathroom cabnet and credit card are living proof  !!! Candy's stuff works, so I can't imagine her c doesn't. |
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Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:29 pm |
Will someone please post the link to Candy's site? (Or PM me?)
priscilla |
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Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:49 pm |
THANKS!
other question:
what is the concentration of vit E in the Candessence product? is it 1% like the Skinceuticals?
priscilla |
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Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:20 pm |
| katee wrote: |
I think I'm going to add one to my order for bath/body stuff and give it to my secretary. She definitely needs a Vitamin C product and I'm too cheap to buy her anything from IS Clinical .
Can't beat Candy's prices! |
I have a few co-workers who i just want to take by the face and rub my C serum all over... Candy's serum as a gift seems like a great alternative. |
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:23 pm |
| Priscilla wrote: |
THANKS!
other question:
what is the concentration of vit E in the Candessence product? is it 1% like the Skinceuticals?
priscilla |
I emailed Candy and she said, 25% vit c,1% vit E, and 3% Ferulic..hope that helps |
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:43 pm |
it does, help. THANKS MelissaMarie!
I have a sampler of the Skinceuticals C+E+ferrulic but would LOVE to find something that isn't going to break the bank.
priscilla |
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:00 pm |
Question: What exactly does C + E + Ferulic Acid do for the skin? I know C is supposed to be an anti-oxident and stimulate collagen, and I've heard E is good to put on scars, but what do they all do mixed together that is so good for the skin? I really want to learn so I can get this product (among others) from Candy!
I am interested in her DMAE serum - how will that work on the skin with the C + E + Ferulic Acid? Can they be used at the same time and layered? Help? |
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:05 pm |
| MermaidGirl wrote: |
Question: What exactly does C + E + Ferulic Acid do for the skin? I know C is supposed to be an anti-oxident and stimulate collagen, and I've heard E is good to put on scars, but what do they all do mixed together that is so good for the skin? I really want to learn so I can get this product (among others) from Candy!
I am interested in her DMAE serum - how will that work on the skin with the C + E + Ferulic Acid? Can they be used at the same time and layered? Help? |
yes they can be all used at the same time. I've had huge issues with not being able to layer stuff, due to some not sinking in, Candy's go right in, and adding anything so far has not been a problem. As to the wow's of that mixture, I am not sure, better minds than mine can answer. I believe tho..c and e are antioxidents, and the ferulic acid would be for exfoliation (could be wrong on that one tho). |
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:10 pm |
Thank you MelissaMarie - I appreciate your response. Yes, everyone is raving about Candy's products, and I'm just dying to get my hands on some of them. Plus, she uses a fragrance like Aquolina Pink Sugar in some of her things and I LOVE that fragrance, so I'm also going to get some smell-good stuff from her, too!
I've never heard of Ferulic Acid before, so I haven't got a clue as to what it is, how it works, or why its a good idea to put it on one's face! |
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:49 pm |
Hi MermaidGirl - The reason I'm using SC CE+Ferulic is that with the inclusion of Ferulic acid, the serum is supposed to be something like 8X more photo-protective than without. And on some chart I saw that compared anti-oxidants, this was listed as being superior to others.
I only started using a C serum after joining this forum, and reading over and over again from many members that it was an indispensible skincare item. I'm using it to keep pigmentation at bay and to boost the effectiveness of my SS. And I like how it kind of restores my skin when it's dry, particularly from retinoid and other acid product use. I guess for me, it's "conditioning", if that makes sense.
I've only been using DMAE 4% amine for about 3 weeks, and it has a subtle lifting/tightening effect. I like it! |
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:50 pm |
| Does anyone know if I can get samples of this? The last (and in fact, only) C serum I've tried broke me out within two days.... I'd hate to spend the $$ on a full size to have it sit on a shelf 'cuz I can't use it! |
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:16 pm |
I have to admit that I'm concerned about the stability of a "homemade" Vit.C serum, unless it were something I cooked up myself and used right away. Since C is so unstable, I worry about applying something that could end up being an oxidant rather than anti-oxidant. And the effect wouldn't be immediately apparent -- free radical damage isn't something that shows up right away, but rather over a longer period of time.
I don't want to impugn Candy or her techniques in any way, but the large skincare companies DO have labs and such to keep on top of quality control, etc. It's just something to consider. Maybe someone can enlighten me who knows and understands more about such things. There's been extensive debate already on the forum about Vit.C stability -- it's an issue even with mass-produced products. |
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:41 am |
| m.april wrote: |
| Hi MermaidGirl - The reason I'm using SC CE+Ferulic is that with the inclusion of Ferulic acid, the serum is supposed to be something like 8X more photo-protective than without. And on some chart I saw that compared anti-oxidants, this was listed as being superior to others. |
Ferulic acid helps keep the Vit C stable.
Marla |
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:43 am |
| m.april wrote: |
I have to admit that I'm concerned about the stability of a "homemade" Vit.C serum, unless it were something I cooked up myself and used right away. Since C is so unstable, I worry about applying something that could end up being an oxidant rather than anti-oxidant. And the effect wouldn't be immediately apparent -- free radical damage isn't something that shows up right away, but rather over a longer period of time.
I don't want to impugn Candy or her techniques in any way, but the large skincare companies DO have labs and such to keep on top of quality control, etc. It's just something to consider. Maybe someone can enlighten me who knows and understands more about such things. There's been extensive debate already on the forum about Vit.C stability -- it's an issue even with mass-produced products. |
I don't think a big lab has much to do with rather a homemade is good or bad vs a store bought (ie big company). It really depends on rather someone uses a good source of vitc. And the freshness. Not sure about most, but I'll take a fresh, just made VitC, over one that could of sat on a shelf for a year!!!!
and Marla thanks, I was guessing on ferulic acid, nice to know what its for !!!! |
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:00 am |
I would agree MelissaMarie, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to determine if there are added ingredients in mass-produced C sera that render them more stable. When it comes to Candessence soaps, moisturizers, etc., I don't have the least concern, but it's just that the well-known instability of Vit.C concerns me. And if it weren't for the fact that C degrades so rapidly, I wouldn't think twice about it. But I know I've read some posts here in the past about C stability with DIY sera, and I seem to recall some people saying the shelf life of those was rather short. I wouldn't want to have to do the "apple test" over and over to make sure the C hasn't degraded. I suppose one could argue that I should do the apple test on my SC product to see if it's still stable.
This was actually brought up to me by a friend who also uses SC CE+Ferulic. I told her about Candessence because like me, my friend would certainly like to find a less expensive product! But she was the one who expressed skepticism and it hadn't occurred to me to consider this aspect of the product.
Maybe I shouldn't have started this thread in the first place! But I know there are others who are concerned about issues such as this. Oh well. |
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:37 am |
| Well alls good, I say buy the products you trust and like. If you have concerns over any product, by all means, don't buy it. But mass production concerns me, its so loaded with preservatives and thats what your loading on your face. I am still using up my ISC stuff, one because its good and two because I have it. I will when I am out purchase Candy's and give it a whirl. Any vit C I have changes color in time, when that happens its in the garbage, period. I feel one can see the oxidation. As far as the "others" you speak privately with and refer too, my advice to them would be the same. I use diff products from different companies, because when I find something that works, I am a happy girl. Its that simple for me. |
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:57 am |
| m.april, hi. I saw the message about the % of C. As far as stability, you bring up a valid question, in my mind anyway. There has been much discussion over this and frankly I'm not sold on any of the "answers". Personally, I put my C serum in the fridge after use, and take it out in enough time for it to get close to room temp. Does this help. Hell, I don't know. But I do feel like it can't hurt. I know the products are fresh when I get them. Due to the stability ? with the C,I keep it cool. I've had C that has spoiled, trust me you can tell. Then lost $$ on the product as I couldn't return it. My suggestion would be to order one of Candys body products & ask for a sample of the C. She's easy to work with. Please don't feel you shouldn't have started this thread. As far as I'm concerned, Candessence products should be honestly & critically reviewed too. No breaks cause she started out here, she's fair game now. Good luck & let me know what you decide to do. deb |
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:04 am |
| April, I'm getting a sample in the mail and can certainly compare the texture to the skinceuticals ferulic and let you know. |
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:05 am |
| i don't know, m.april. i *love* all of Candy's body care products and, for the amount of money, i'm more than willing to give her C serum a whirl. i know i've wasted that amount (or much more) on things that have sat in my drawers forever. maybe i'm just not quite as obsessed about it "turning" as you are.... i think the only way to be sure is to buy it, test it, and see if it passes the "apple test." monotonous, i know, but you'll only have to do it on one bottle. if it doesn't pass, you've blown $20. if it *does* work, in the long run, you'll save lots of $$$. it's the only way to know for sure.... |
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:21 am |
Warning! Stupid question ahead!
What is the "apple test"? I've never heard of it before! I'm going to take a stab at it and guess that it involves taking an apple, cutting a section out of it and applying the Vit. C serum to it to see if it prevents the apple from turning brown.
Am I way off base?  |
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:14 pm |
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Warning! Stupid question ahead!
What is the "apple test"? I've never heard of it before! I'm going to take a stab at it and guess that it involves taking an apple, cutting a section out of it and applying the Vit. C serum to it to see if it prevents the apple from turning brown.
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Thats the test. I've seen this test done on every vit c product sold on QVC, HSN ect...I almost feel like its a marketing stragegy. Now it might be very real, but since they all do it, and we know some vitc's turn...how are we to really know. None of the ones doing it live, ever turn brown with their product on it. I find it all so confusing....... |
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