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Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:10 pm  |
I love all the DIY stuff here and recipes etc.
Is it possible to do it with Shampoo?
I am just so unsatisfied with all the natural shampoos out there. None of them work very well and they all have things in them that I don't want.
What makes something good at cleansing the hair and leaving it balanced? A mixture of clays and natural soaps and herbs or essential oils? I'm very serious about making my own, I just don't know where to start or how to do it. Any help or experience would be appreciated. Thanks. |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:16 pm |
Carekate has a couple of recipes for dry shampoos ... and I just ordered from her.
It might not be too difficult to create your own liquid shampoo. I used a natural shampoo line for awhile. They use aloe vera (not water) as the base. |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:48 pm |
BYRG in case you haven't come across it
there is some good shampoo info and DIY resources on
http://www.naturallycurly.com
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com
if you dig around a bit
They're generally into no sulfates, no silicones and sometimes no proteins. I don't know what else you want to eliminate but I'm sure there's a way! |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:05 pm |
Thanks. Dry Shampoo, that sounds weird. Yeah definetely want a wet shampoo I can rinse out in the shower. Lately I've just been using Dr. Bronner Castile Soap cause I just can't bring myself to buy any of the shampoos anymore in the stores. But it's really starting to dry my hair out and the condition is not so great.
Molly, thanks, yeah those are the main things I want to avoid. Detergents, hydrolyzed proteins and other stuff. Are there any recipes there anyone has tried here? Thanks. |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:22 pm |
I use a wet shampoo 3x a week but use a dry shampoo (like Oscar Blandi's Pronto) almost daily.
It soaks up product overload, smells great and adds a little volume. |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:29 pm |
| Rjez wrote: |
I use a wet shampoo 3x a week but use a dry shampoo (like Oscar Blandi's Pronto) almost daily.
It soaks up product overload, smells great and adds a little volume. |
Hey, Rjez - does the dry shampoo leave residue in your hair? I tried a dry shampoo one time (can't remember the name, but it was not Blandi's) and it left white residue in my hair. I'm blonde, but have a lot of dark blonde/light brown in my hair, and it left my roots (the darkest part of my hair) looking a little dull.
Have you had that problem? TIA!  |
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:23 am |
I haven't seen a whole lot of DIY shampoos, more people seem to use bars or conditioner only washing. Ida's shampoo bars are very popular amongst long haired folk:
http://www.chagrinvalleysoapandcraft.com/shambar.htm
I have used them before and also Iowa Soapworks bars, they're both very nice products to take gentle care of long hair. Ida's are the most popular as far as I can tell. Much nicer than the Lush shampoo bars that have SLS and dried my hair to a crisp.
I don't use Ida's bars now because I switched to Louise Marie Longhairs, which I love.  LML is a big commitment though, if I hadn't been ready to jump in with the LML program when I did then I would probably still be using shampoo bars. There's a ginger one and a honey and beer one that I was particularly fond of.
Edit to add: if you are determined to DIY I would use a natural soap recipe and build on that with the ingredients that would be best for your hairtype. You can get an idea from the ingredients listings on the two shampoo bar sites. |
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:59 am |
I've used baking soda mixed with apple cider vinegar as an amazing clarifying/volumizing shampoo. Put a 1/4 cup of soda in a glass bowl and add enough AC to make a runny paste. Rub into hair and massage scalp. Rinse. Follow it up with a LITTLE honey as a conditioner. Rinse. Sounds bizarre, but the end result is soft, shiny, bouncy hair. Good luck.
| BYRG wrote: |
I love all the DIY stuff here and recipes etc.
Is it possible to do it with Shampoo?
I am just so unsatisfied with all the natural shampoos out there. None of them work very well and they all have things in them that I don't want.
What makes something good at cleansing the hair and leaving it balanced? A mixture of clays and natural soaps and herbs or essential oils? I'm very serious about making my own, I just don't know where to start or how to do it. Any help or experience would be appreciated. Thanks. |
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Best, Jeannine (40s, fair skin, hazel eyes, sensitive skin). To fight the dread lemming sickness, I promise not to rave about a product until I have used it for a long while. |
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:33 am |
| MermaidGirl wrote: |
| Hey, Rjez - does the dry shampoo leave residue in your hair? |
I really don't notice a residue because you sort of shake the powder out. I sprinkle, let sit for a minute, then either brush or (best) run and shake my fingers through. I also only use on the crown and bangs ... not on the length.
The powder is white but the only time it was annoying was when I put on too much ... then I really had to rub my scalp.
You can try it at Sephora - that's what I did before plunking down $.
I tried Pssst (back on the market from Paves) but I thought it was horrible. I haven't tried Bumble and Bumble and that seems to get mixed reviews. |
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:42 am |
| Jeannine wrote: |
| I've used baking soda mixed with apple cider vinegar as an amazing clarifying/volumizing shampoo. Put a 1/4 cup of soda in a glass bowl and add enough AC to make a runny paste. Rub into hair and massage scalp. Rinse. Follow it up with a LITTLE honey as a conditioner. Rinse. Sounds bizarre, but the end result is soft, shiny, bouncy hair. Good luck. |
That sounds interesting, do you think it would work on fine hair? And do you use the honey as a leave-in conditioner or do you rinse it out? |
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:48 am |
| valkyrie wrote: |
| Jeannine wrote: |
| I've used baking soda mixed with apple cider vinegar as an amazing clarifying/volumizing shampoo. Put a 1/4 cup of soda in a glass bowl and add enough AC to make a runny paste. Rub into hair and massage scalp. Rinse. Follow it up with a LITTLE honey as a conditioner. Rinse. Sounds bizarre, but the end result is soft, shiny, bouncy hair. Good luck. |
That sounds interesting, do you think it would work on fine hair? And do you use the honey as a leave-in conditioner or do you rinse it out? |
I first tried the baking soda & ACV shampoo because I heard that it plumped up fine hair and gave it extra body/volume. You definitely rinse out the honey. I imagine it would be a sticky mess if left in. I use it just like a deep conditioner. In shower, put it on and let it sit for 5 minutes while I wash and exfoliate. Then rinse out.
I'm glad you asked because it reminded me that there were various ways to do the shampoo. So I did a search to find the link where I first heard about it and came up with the awesome site below. It has tons of stuff on DIY shampoo and hair treatments. I also quoted a poster:
http://curezone.org/blogs/m.asp?f=235&i=9
No Shampoo: ACV & Baking Soda plus a Blog
Why You Should Go No ‘Poo
Almost three months ago, I was introduced to the idea of no longer using shampoo. I was intrigued. After looking into it somewhat, I figured I didn’t have anything to lose. So I picked up some baking soda and apple cider vinegar and then took the plunge. I love the results! There was an adjustment period where I had to play around with the measurements a bit but I finally got the hang of it. I have straight-as-a-board, baby-fine hair that has never held a “do.” After “no ‘poo,” I don’t even have to use styling products. I just blow dry and go; my hair now keeps any style. It’s awesome! |
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:18 am |
Gosh. I'd have thought regularly using baking soda would have dried the hair right out.
I'm going to try this recipe next time I wash my hair.
I do CO washing at the moment, because shampoo gives me the itchies.
Very interesting, thanks. |
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:13 am |
| catski wrote: |
| Gosh. I'd have thought regularly using baking soda would have dried the hair right out. |
No, it's worse! I've posted this info in several of the "glossy/shiny hair" threads, but it bears repeating:
| carekate wrote: |
| ariesxtreme wrote: |
| If I really want to clarify any buildup I use a baka soda rinse about once a week. |
I’ve done some research into the benefits/dangers of using baking soda on one’s face and/or hair and this is what I found out:
I found this particular statement from a forum devoted to long hair (note: it might have been “The Long Hair Community,” but at this point I no longer remember):
Baking soda's alkalinity is as high as that of haircoloring products although I realize that the amount or application method makes if more or less harsh depending on how baking soda is used.
I say, leave the baking soda for household cleaning. I apologize if I sound put off by the baking soda on hair thing, it's just that there are so many wonderful cosmetics out there, ones that smell lovely and are pleasant to use, that I have difficulty understanding how something like baking soda could appeal to anyone for use in their haircare routine.
Here is a link for the pH of BSoda (I think it's the same one I posted yesterday in the vinegar thread): http://www.kernsite.com/uwp/modules/pH/pH.htm)
The first sentence is the one that gets me: baking soda is as alkaline as hair dye?!?! What that basically means is that it is doing to dilate the hair cuticle in a similar manner as a hair color developer or perming solution. And when the hair cuticle is dilated, guess what happens to the previously deposited hair color pigment? Buh-bye –down the drain it went!  I used to use baking soda + shampoo for a super-clarifying treatment before I put two and two together and realized what was going on. I have a hard enough time keeping my red color-treated hair bright and vibrant for longer than a month without helping the fade-age along....
Just something to mull over!
P.S. And don’t even get me started on the perils of using baking soda to cleanse or exfoliate one’s face!!  |
I pay a fortune to get my carmelized highlights done every couple months so I'll stick with my ACV and honey and leave the baking soda in shampoo to braver souls than I! |
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:52 am |
HA! *gulp*
Saved by Carekate! Thanks carrie.
I also have highlights in my hair.. so I think I'll play it safe too and avoid the baking soda.
Lately I've been experimenting with rhassoul mixed with honey, to give my hair/scalp a bit of variety.
It gives Very Big Hair. |
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:25 pm |
Yikes! I'd hate to see someone's color messed up. Thanks, Carrie.
| carekate wrote: |
| catski wrote: |
| Gosh. I'd have thought regularly using baking soda would have dried the hair right out. |
No, it's worse! I've posted this info in several of the "glossy/shiny hair" threads, but it bears repeating:
| carekate wrote: |
| ariesxtreme wrote: |
| If I really want to clarify any buildup I use a baka soda rinse about once a week. |
I’ve done some research into the benefits/dangers of using baking soda on one’s face and/or hair and this is what I found out:
I found this particular statement from a forum devoted to long hair (note: it might have been “The Long Hair Community,” but at this point I no longer remember):
Baking soda's alkalinity is as high as that of haircoloring products although I realize that the amount or application method makes if more or less harsh depending on how baking soda is used.
I say, leave the baking soda for household cleaning. I apologize if I sound put off by the baking soda on hair thing, it's just that there are so many wonderful cosmetics out there, ones that smell lovely and are pleasant to use, that I have difficulty understanding how something like baking soda could appeal to anyone for use in their haircare routine.
Here is a link for the pH of BSoda (I think it's the same one I posted yesterday in the vinegar thread): http://www.kernsite.com/uwp/modules/pH/pH.htm)
The first sentence is the one that gets me: baking soda is as alkaline as hair dye?!?! What that basically means is that it is doing to dilate the hair cuticle in a similar manner as a hair color developer or perming solution. And when the hair cuticle is dilated, guess what happens to the previously deposited hair color pigment? Buh-bye –down the drain it went! I used to use baking soda + shampoo for a super-clarifying treatment before I put two and two together and realized what was going on. I have a hard enough time keeping my red color-treated hair bright and vibrant for longer than a month without helping the fade-age along....
Just something to mull over!
P.S. And don’t even get me started on the perils of using baking soda to cleanse or exfoliate one’s face!! |
I pay a fortune to get my carmelized highlights done every couple months so I'll stick with my ACV and honey and leave the baking soda in shampoo to braver souls than I! |
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Best, Jeannine (40s, fair skin, hazel eyes, sensitive skin). To fight the dread lemming sickness, I promise not to rave about a product until I have used it for a long while. |
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Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:01 am |
| I was reading that dry washing is popular in asian countries, anyone have experience of this? I'm always on the look out for things to improve my hair. |
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