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Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:14 pm  |
Hi everyone. I've just read some of the posts on Vitamin C discoloring and realized that my Vitamin C (Super Serum from IS Clinical) is, sadly, drak yellow. It was when I first got it...from ebay.
Anyway, as I rethink products before I purchase (somewhere else!), I'm wondering if I should rethink the type, too. It seems that many people here use serums of one variety or another, but could a cream be as effective? I've read some on the Cellex-C line and am on the fence between the high potency serum, the advanced, serum, and the adanced skin tightening cream. Does anyone have experience or information on a comparison the effects?
I'm in my early 30s, have dry, very fair skin, and am currently in the morning using my Clairsonic with Cetaphil, then Vitamin c, then Boderma sunscreen (thanks, April), then Bobbi Brown Extra tinted moisturizer. At night I use the Clairsonic with Cetaphil followed by Retin-A micro .04--if any of that matters.
Thanks, all!!!
Best,
Lee Ann |
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:26 pm |
I think you would really like the Vivier Vit. C 20%
It is a serum and it feels like you are applying oil but it soaks in and I think it last longer because there is not as much water in it.
Super Serum is a good product. Just disappointed that it did not last as long as Vivier with respect to length of time I had the product and turning brown/orange so quickly. |
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:37 pm |
i prefer serums.
my therapist recommended murad to me and insisted that creams were more stable than serums. not true! at first, it felt great. velvety smooth and melted on the skin. the cream i tried was murad's essential C daily renewal complex but it went a funky fast. half way through the pot, my skin started to sting every time after i applied it and i had to throw it out.
i've used skinceuticals vit C and it seems to last longer than the cream and other serums. i'm now using super serum. in terms of what it is doing for my skin, my vote is for super serum!!
the only drawback as skincare has mentioned is that it seems to "turn" fast. |
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:02 pm |
I love the Cellex-C High Potency Serum.  I haven't tried the Advanced Serum or the Cream though. |
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34, oily acne-prone skin, Toronto, Canada |
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:06 pm |
| I have heard good things also with Cellex-C. I read that that is the perfect Vit. C to use during humid/hot conditions for oily skin. |
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:03 pm |
| Cellex-c advanced C has more VC in it. worth a try! |
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:42 pm |
| I like the Skin Medica Vitamin C Complex. Not as strong as some others but it doesn't irritate me or dry my skin up. |
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Over 60, dry and sensitive. Look younger than my age and want to keep it that way! |
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:30 pm |
Serums are actually more potent and penetrate your skin better than creams, which is why they usually come in smaller bottles.
I mix up my own Vitamin C serum at home, organic aloe vera gel + L-ascorbic acid crystals/powder. It's only two ingredients and much cheaper and fresher than any store-bought serum (I've heard somewhere that the store-bought kind will go off incredibly rapidly after being opened, i.e. the Vitamin C destabilizes and becomes useless). |
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Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:58 pm |
Nijey,
What brand of aloe vera are you using? I remember a while back there was talk of using aloe vera for vitamin C serum. I think the deal was that people were wondering if it would destabilize the vitamin C. Also, I think the concern was whether there were any additives in the aloe vera.
Do you find it's working with it. Is it or was it ever tingling? |
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Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:29 am |
| Skincare,have you used Cellex-c advanced c? is there much difference b/t that and vivier c? thanks! |
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Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:00 am |
| trianglefish wrote: |
| Skincare,have you used Cellex-c advanced c? is there much difference b/t that and vivier c? thanks! |
The only difference is the texture but no, not that particular one on my face. On my body yes Staff put the wrong one in my bag and I was not happy to want to try it on my face and I had no time to go back to the store (I was even fed up with poor customer service at Cellex-C boutique in Toronto in the PATH way), including the one for my eye. I did notice that the colour did change a bit faster then Vivier but not as quickly as ISC Super Serum.
I have used High Potency Serum and I have read a few times that this is perfect to use in the summer if you live in humid conditions or work in a humid condition. Both Advanced Vit. C and High Ponency Serums are watery compared to Vivier. |
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Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:23 am |
| michelec wrote: |
Nijey,
What brand of aloe vera are you using? I remember a while back there was talk of using aloe vera for vitamin C serum. I think the deal was that people were wondering if it would destabilize the vitamin C. Also, I think the concern was whether there were any additives in the aloe vera.
Do you find it's working with it. Is it or was it ever tingling? |
I use Lily of the Desert Aloe Vera Gelly, which is supposed to be 98 or 99% organic ingredients. I don't get any tingling sensations with my concoction, and it seems to be working well for me so far. HTH! |
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ginpie
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:51 am |
Nijey,
Where exactly can you buy the organic aloe and the L-a. acid. What are the quantities? Please give us the recipe.  |
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mjs
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:10 am |
| Nijey, I think it should be fun trying to make my own vit c cream. I 'll report the reuslt here once I try it. |
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Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:52 am |
| i read that powder form is actually the most potent form...and to blend it with a cream onto ths skin. But, it's hard to find vitamin C in this form. |
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Extremely fair/sensitive skin(mild rosacea)that burns very easy.acne is rare/skin is dry.27 years old. |
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Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:08 am |
| When I google vitamin c powder, there are lots of people who sell it. So, there must be something particular that I'm missing that I should be noticing. What are the details of choosing a vitamin c powder? |
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Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:44 am |
I've done some research lately about concocting my own C product -- to assure freshness and to also save money. But I'm not sure at this point if it's something I want to undertake. I've read that plant-based ingredients can destabilize l-ascorbic acid if there are any traces of metallic substance in them. It's been suggested that certain plant/botanic ingredients can contain minerals that, if not buffered, coated, chelated etc., could oxidize Vit.C., thereby turning it into an oxidant. I'm not talented or smart enough to figure out much less replicate how large cosmetic companies coat ingredient particles in order to prevent oxidation.
I've read that glycerine, for example, would be a safe base to add C to (not positive yet -- have to learn more), but I don't find glycerine an aesthetically-pleasing base to use during the daytime under SS and makeup. I guess I could deal with it at bedtime if I chose to use C then instead of during the day. But then again, it could be pore-clogging! Also, it seems that any ingredient contact with metal, even stainless steel, could possibly cause stability problems. This is why many C sera don't come in dispensers that have metallic components.
I'm beginning to wonder if the cost of many Vit.C treatments is high because of the challenges of producing a stable, effective product. I wish it were simpler, but l-ascorbic acid is tricky! |
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Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:52 am |
Yeah, I've gone the same route and just decided to buy some (Vit C serum). I was putting too much thought and time into the DIY version. The DIY approach is also difficult with how obsessive I can be.
(As an aside, I had an old musician boyfriend who used to sing that song "The evil woman..." to me but would change it to "The anal woman...")
But having said that, I finally ordered Mychelle Perfect C serum and I'm taking a little break from DIY life. |
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Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:03 pm |
| ginpie wrote: |
Nijey,
Where exactly can you buy the organic aloe and the L-a. acid. What are the quantities? Please give us the recipe. |
I buy the organic aloe at my local Stop'n'Shop (which has a nice natural market) but you can order it online at drugstore.com or pretty much anywhere. The L-ascorbic acid I got from thepersonalformulator.com, which has a big catalogue of DIY components. My "recipe" is pretty inexact and I'm almost embarassed to post it here, as I'm sure there'll be more experienced/knowledgeable DIYers who will poo-poo it, but I just scoop up roughly 1/8 of a teaspoon of powder and add enough aloe vera gel (usually a quarter-sized blob) to dissolve it completely. I smoosh it around in my hands, then apply to my face.
Carekate has a more well-researched version in the DIY thread, using propylene glycol/glycerin and more exact measurements. You mlight want to check that out as well. |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:21 pm |
| Wow! This is way more complicated than I thought--or have time to research and figure out. I sort of agree with April--what makes me think I can replicate this in a way that will work, especially given the time I'm willing/have available to devote to it? In any case, my Cellex-C came in the mail today. I'm going to try the creams out for a while (I got the advanced tightening cream and the advanced eye cream). The professional literature on this product is impressive--but it may not be any different or better than any of the others. We shall see. I sure hope so, because the lines under my eyes are really starting to depress me!! |
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:27 am |
Hey--one more question: Do you think the C in Alphaderma CE is enogh to get the benefits of C that can be gained from a serum or cream that is strictly a C?
I love that stuff, but went in search of a C serum/cream. Maybe it's good enough? |
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:40 am |
| ljung the AlphaDerma CE uses ascorbyl palmitate not ascorbic acid and judging by where it is on the ingredient list there is probably not too much of it. So IMO it wouldn't even come close to offering the benefits of a C serum (or cream). |
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:59 pm |
That's too bad. Thanks for the response, though. I am now using the Cellex-C advanced eye cream, but I'm concerned because it is a brownish color. The expiration date isn't until July 07, and it was sealed straight from the SkinStore, but I'm worried about its stability given the discussion on other threads. I think I'll email them and ask if this is supposed to be the color.
So complicated! |
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:04 pm |
| I like skin medica Vitamin C,its not sticky and orange, goes on smooth and makes your complexion glow,its really the best,I have tried them all. |
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Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:40 pm |
To find a good C product, look for:
1. No water in the formula (for stability/no turning orange/brown later on)or if there is water then a C that is coated with silicone so the oxygen in the water cannot come in contact with the C.
2. L-Ascorbic acid for the best results and most powerful antioxidant activity (as opposed to C-esters, etc.)
3. At least a 10% concentration of C in the overall formula.
4. A pH of 3 to 3.5 which is good for effectiveness but not so low that it would burn your skin.
5. Dark or opaque packaging to protect the serum from UV light.
Creams have too high a pH for C to be effective. Mixing C powder each day or every few days with simple distilled water is possible but, for me, a nuisance.
The C products on this board that have gotten the most attention or Vivier, Cellular Skin Rx, Skinceuticals, PSF's C and the Janson-Beckett C+C. My personal fave is the Cellular Skin Rx one. I like the glycol base (improves penetration), no sticky residue, and a good price. |
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