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Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:07 pm  |
I have a couple scars I want to treat with copper peptide in combination with a lactic/BHA exfoliator.
I believe, on scars a stronger salicylic acid formula will speed the removal of scar tissue considerably.
Can I add aspirin to it to make it stronger?
Is Aspirin the same as salicylic acid? I think Aspirin is called acetylsalicylic acid? Are they the same thing? If not, does it matter?
I have read on this site about the aspirin mask - so it seems its interchangable?
I dont want to make a mask, but a strong leave-on if that is best to get the fastest results. I dont know if you are ever supposed to leave anything strong on, or if you have to rinse it off? If so, how often should I do a "mask " on scars?
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Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:52 pm |
If you want a stronger bha, you can just use a higher % bha vs adding aspirin. Adding aspirin can act like a physical exfoliant.
I know you want the fastest result but you have to make sure your skin can take all these strong acids. You need to start slow and build up your tolerance. |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:43 am |
it just could exfoliate the epidermis of your scars.
i think it would regrow after some days  |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:20 am |
I replied on your other similar post, which talks about Aspirin. They are not the same, nor interchangeable.
See that post here, maybe it will help. 
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=18074
Acids are used as scar treatment. Acid timing and type depends on a number of factors.
Area treated, and sensitivity
Skin Oily Ness and Dryness
Results Desired
A sensitive are like face, and chest and neck will use a milder acid, like Lactic, and a shorter timeframe at first, gradually lengthen the time.
For example a facial scar would be treated with a 10% Lactic Acid product with a 1.9 pH at first. Apply a few times a week at 2- 5 minutes, then rinse off. Gradually increasing time upto 20 to 30 minutes based on skin tolerance. And increasing time to nightly, based on tolerance.
After you can handle 10% at 1.9 pH (which is MUCH stronger the a 10% product at 3.5 pH) you can then skin the rinse off entirely, and simply proceed with your other products.
After 30 minutes an acid of this type stops exfoliating, leaving it on the skin does provide other effects though, anti-oxitive, moisterizing, etc.
If you do fine with the 10% on face, you can eventually apply it to entire face, and spot treat scars with a stronger acid.
You will probably want to move up to a stronger acid, 20 to 30% on the face, spot treatment, if you scars are not responding. The easies way to do this is add one deep peel strength acid into the program once a week. Either all over or spot treat.
When using a 30% and above acid you generally always wash off after 30 minutes, because they are more irritating. However, depending on your skin, you may be able to spot treat without rinsing and/or leave on all over. You build up the timing in the same way as with the 10% product. Start at 2 to 3 minutes, and slowly build up.
With body scars, depending on area, skin is much thicker. So you usually spot treat the worst scars with a 30 to 40% product. Again building on the time. Because the skin is tougher, you may be able to treat twice a week or nightly.
When I removed some skin tags, I actually treated them every other night with a 30% acid, and COP 2X. On my neck I used Lactic 10% and COP 2X nightly. This caused some irritation, but they feel off in a week, and never came back.
Treating a small mole on my body, used the same method, but took a few weeks.
A larger mole did not respond as well, without irritation.
When treating scar, best results will appear when you also use Copper. The copper helps the new skin to fill in faster, and be in a more "healthy" state. It enables the skin to better rebuild "undamaged" tissues in the area.
Scars are tough to treat, and take awhile, and best results are a balance of Acids, and copper. I have tryed treatinmg them with acids only - and it can be done. But takes longer, takes more repeat treatments, and you have a lot more irritation. |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:47 am |
Thanks sooo much for taking the time to explain so detailed - I truly appreciate this. Im completely new to all of this - all I had been using until a week ago was AHA, CeraVe and sunblock on my face.
Im so excited to keep a great skin care regime, including LA/BHA exfoliant, CP and Retin A and to treat me scars (just on the body) |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:25 am |
| Monica, after your skin becomes accustomed to acids, you should check out Scalawaggirl's cross-picking technique. It can be found in the prouct review section. It works in a similar way, using acid and copper peptide. It's been very effective for her. |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:54 am |
| Thanks for the link! |
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