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Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:42 am  |
| I'm just finishing up my fall semester which includes a very interesting anatomy and physiology course. While it may be odd to discuss this on a skincare forum, the discussion of skin was a topic, which I already know quite a bit about. But the simplest, most obvious point was made in class that has made me rather confused on why everyone emphasizes on skincare. Yes, skin is an organ, and the largest organ of all organs to the human body...but we focus so much on putting products on the dead layer of skin which...while this is true, i still will have to support that products such as moisturizer and sunscreen are very good for the skin for preventing dryness and burning/aging (due to rays getting deep into the living cells of te skin) but are other products that beneficial? My question is...do these products have the ability to sink down deep enough to really effect the structure of the skin? |
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Extremely fair/sensitive skin(mild rosacea)that burns very easy.acne is rare/skin is dry.27 years old. |
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Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:23 am |
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| but are other products that beneficial? My question is...do these products have the ability to sink down deep enough to really effect the structure of the skin? |
Yes, if you choose the right ones. There's plenty of evidence to back this up if you search pubmed.
I stopped using all actives (antioxidants/CPs etc) for several months last year and mostly just used SS and my skin did deteriorate. Antioxs are slow to act but when I look and compare with my sisters who are near my age and don't use any actives there is a definite advantage in the anti-aging value of these things I'm thinking recently. |
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Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:57 am |
Frankly, I'm not Zen enough with each cell of my body to tell what is dead or what is alive. I figure dead or alive I'll still try to make all of me look good.
I mean everything in my house is dead. My leather shoes, my leather couch, my cotton clothes... but I still use a special leather cleaner and a gentle laundry detergent, etc. Just because something's dead doesn't mean you can't affect it. I can still make all my little dead cell bodies look good! (That sounds gross  )
Also, there's a lot of research showing that while the stratum corneum is dead, a lot of action takes place there. For example, filaggrin breaks down at different rates depending on humidity. Desmosomes break down at different rates depending on pH, to make a pathway through the stratum corneum. It's still important to take care of this dead layer. |
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Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:13 am |
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| Also, there's a lot of research showing that while the stratum corneum is dead, a lot of action takes place there. For example, filaggrin breaks down at different rates depending on humidity. Desmosomes break down at different rates depending on pH, to make a pathway through the stratum corneum. It's still important to take care of this dead layer. |
That's v. interesting. Where did you read that? |
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Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:27 am |
I found this article gave a great overview of the SC.
http://www.nature.com/jid/journal/v122/n2/full/5602161a.html
I've noticed that a lot of stuff I've read about the SC is authored/co-authored by P. Elias. I googled his name and found he consults or is in some way affiliated with Osmotics. So I'm kind of interested in Osmotics Blue Copper now. But that's gen1 and I know you're experience has been with gen2  |
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Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:45 pm |
| Molly wrote: |
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| but are other products that beneficial? My question is...do these products have the ability to sink down deep enough to really effect the structure of the skin? |
Yes, if you choose the right ones. There's plenty of evidence to back this up if you search pubmed.
I stopped using all actives (antioxidants/CPs etc) for several months last year and mostly just used SS and my skin did deteriorate. Antioxs are slow to act but when I look and compare with my sisters who are near my age and don't use any actives there is a definite advantage in the anti-aging value of these things I'm thinking recently. |
Hmm...I have made the habit of using my antioxidant serum every night and let it soak in as I sleep ..this is a habit that I don't think ill get rid of, even if it is dead skin...I just am thinking about all of the infomercials I watch at night and even those shopping networks that say "This product will cause collagen in the skin to produce just by putting it on your skin"...or something along those lines...and I am beginning to become a skeptic. I'd rather become skeptical now at age 21 then wait until im in my 30s to try and do my own homework. |
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Extremely fair/sensitive skin(mild rosacea)that burns very easy.acne is rare/skin is dry.27 years old. |
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Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:16 pm |
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| I've noticed that a lot of stuff I've read about the SC is authored/co-authored by P. Elias. I googled his name and found he consults or is in some way affiliated with Osmotics. So I'm kind of interested in Osmotics Blue Copper now. But that's gen1 and I know you're experience has been with gen2 |
Keep in mind that virtually all of the clinical studies (except for the one on wound healing) were done on generation 1 CP's, not gen 2. |
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