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Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:58 am  |
I was looking at a photo of Ivanka Trump and although she is beautiful what always strikes me is how perfectly groomed she is. Her hair is always sleek and glossy, her make up is perfection.
How do you get that 'perfectly groomed' look? |
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Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:47 am |
A whole lot of time and money! Or spend a large part of your time doing it all yourself!
Sorry not trying to be cynical but look at a lot of women with an abundance of wealth, time and money for spa treatments, stylest whenever the mood strikes, makeup artists at your beck and call the list goes on! The PRIVELAGED FEW!
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Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:29 pm |
| photo shop, air brushing and if I squint when I look in the mirror Viola! |
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Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:35 pm |
Haaa! I totally agree with both DM and Alien, but for me I think a big part of the well-groomed picture is hair. Perhaps this is because I've always been someone with frizzy, hard-to-manage hair (and have lived most of my life in Seattle). But whenever I see a woman whose hair looks "sleek" or curled in a very deliberate and non-rain-induced way I'm impressed. Don't get me wrong -- there's definitely a place for messy bed-head, but gals whose hair looks 'done' in a catalog-y way totally wow me.
That, and well-applied eye shadow that contours well -- I'm always blown away by people who can do a perfect smoky eye or a perfect deep-set crease triangle thing (if you know what I mean). Again, this is probably because I myself suck that those elements!  |
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32, fair hair/eyes/skin, always a mix of dry/oily/sensitive/acne/clogged pores. But I keep getting compliments on my skin, so something must be working! Beauty blog at http://heliotro.pe; online dating coaching at http://theheartographer.com |
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Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:10 pm |
| Alien wrote: |
| photo shop, air brushing and if I squint when I look in the mirror Viola! |
LOL Good point!!
DM |
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Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:18 pm |
ginnielizz,
As someone with waves that go all the wrong directions, blow drying and heat styling for me is a must, I always envied you gals with natural curls jump out of shower little styling product shake and go! The grass is always greener LOL
the makeup deal from an ex cosmetologist get someone good to show you then practice, if you are so inclined. If I wasn't on the opposite end of the country I would gladly offer!
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Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:45 pm |
Awww, you're so sweet! Fancy eye shadow is quite literally the ONLY makeup trick I feel like I truly can't master, even with practice. But I've been meaning to watch tutorials and/or get a demo in person for years. I think I'll finally do this before my wedding so I can do my own wedding makeup!
Hair is another matter entirely... I too am of the crazy unpredictable waves variety, and I only recently learned how to make it be straight or curly with heat and products and lots of work. Far too much work for normal days. |
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32, fair hair/eyes/skin, always a mix of dry/oily/sensitive/acne/clogged pores. But I keep getting compliments on my skin, so something must be working! Beauty blog at http://heliotro.pe; online dating coaching at http://theheartographer.com |
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Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:21 pm |
| Alien wrote: |
| photo shop, air brushing and if I squint when I look in the mirror Viola! |
LOL Thats funny!! |
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Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:26 pm |
The pictures are not taken at their worst, nor at the spur of the moment - all very well planned out in terms of look, preparation, clothes etc. The stylist was hired and the microdermabrasion took place and, and, and... You know....
I want to see the shots first thing in the morning - but they're probably great of Ivanka Trump then too - she is a gorgeous young woman. |
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Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:32 pm |
ginnielizz,
That's a great idea before your wedding! Congratulations by the way!
On the crazy hair don't you just want to scream when some gals have either perfect curls or straight hair naturally and they complain because they want the other? If they only knew spend forever styling or give up and tie it back!
DM |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:03 am |
| I personally think some people come out of the womb looking perfectly groomed. They couldn't look any other way even if they tried. I suspect Ivanka Trump is one of those people. |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:59 am |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| On the crazy hair don't you just want to scream when some gals have either perfect curls or straight hair naturally and they complain because they want the other? If they only knew spend forever styling or give up and tie it back! DM |
That's me! I am one of those, with the straight smooth hair who complains. Because it only has body right after it's blow dried, and it gets limp, stringy and greasy fast (the oil just slides down the straight strands)and won't hold a curl no matter what. So I either have to wash-and-blow-dry, or "give up and tie it back." (Although I don't have to spend a long time on it, as fine hair doesn't take huge amounts of time to dry.) But still, I envy people whose hair has body... |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:54 am |
| Tessera....I have the same hair. It's a pain...have you tried big sexy hair root lifter? If so, did you like it? I just went on a hunt for a good root lifter and so far I've tried garnier and pureology and a couple other cheap drugstore brands.....no HG yet. Pureology (whose shamp and cond I LOVE) had the worst one! Sticky...dirty feeling. |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:22 am |
| You fine-haired gals should hunt down manslayerliz's review of Philip Pelusi's mousse! |
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32, fair hair/eyes/skin, always a mix of dry/oily/sensitive/acne/clogged pores. But I keep getting compliments on my skin, so something must be working! Beauty blog at http://heliotro.pe; online dating coaching at http://theheartographer.com |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:26 am |
Face it girls when it comes to hair we just can't win, unless you have a stylist in the house  We all have to fight it to get the look we want!
DM
I actually knew one girl who could wash and comb then let her hair dry into perfect curls! She also could blow dry straight, no frizz and a natural blonde to boot, don't we just hate her! Joking about hating her, but really made me jealous! |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:17 pm |
"if I squint when I look in the mirror Viola!"
I did just realize- do enough squinting and you'll cause wrinkles |
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Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:18 pm |
| Alien wrote: |
"if I squint when I look in the mirror Viola!"
I did just realize- do enough squinting and you'll cause wrinkles |
 Like I said we just can't win!
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:43 pm |
| Ivanka Trump has youth and lots and lots of money! Combination of the two she should look pretty good and on top of that pics are posed and airbrushed to remove any natural skin flaws. I have always envied people with smooth, shiny, straight hair not prone to frizz, because these people look very groomed. I live in the south and my hair goes crazy in humidity no matter how much product I use for smoothing! |
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:30 pm |
Starlight,
I live in the far south always hot and humid, I constantly fight the frizz! HATE IT! Nothing I have used works 100%. Still hunting.
DM |
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Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:51 pm |
I think it's all about maintenance and we are too busy living our life and earning an income. For her, money will never be an issue and she can afford to get some help and have time to live her life.
As for the hair, that is a challenge for me and for most, I would think. I'm sure she has a stylist who did her hair. |
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Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:47 pm |
Hair color, hair style, nails, makeup and wardrobe appropriate for age and lifestyle.
Clothing that fits well, and is free of stains/dirt/snags/loose threads, etc.
Shoes in good condition without scuffs/run down heels.
Handbags in good condition.
Skin, hair, teeth and nails that appear clean, healthy and cared for.
These are fairly general but they are where I tend to start. |
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Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:42 pm |
| septemberamethyst wrote: |
Hair color, hair style, nails, makeup and wardrobe appropriate for age and lifestyle.
Clothing that fits well, and is free of stains/dirt/snags/loose threads, etc.
Shoes in good condition without scuffs/run down heels.
Handbags in good condition.
Skin, hair, teeth and nails that appear clean, healthy and cared for.
These are fairly general but they are where I tend to start. |
I really think you said it better than any of us! And truth be told, a LOT of my shoes are scuffy and some of my bags as well -- I will have to keep this in mind. Very valuable input, even though this wasn't my thread! |
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32, fair hair/eyes/skin, always a mix of dry/oily/sensitive/acne/clogged pores. But I keep getting compliments on my skin, so something must be working! Beauty blog at http://heliotro.pe; online dating coaching at http://theheartographer.com |
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Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:13 pm |
| septemberamethyst wrote: |
Hair color, hair style, nails, makeup and wardrobe appropriate for age and lifestyle.
Clothing that fits well, and is free of stains/dirt/snags/loose threads, etc.
Shoes in good condition without scuffs/run down heels.
Handbags in good condition.
Skin, hair, teeth and nails that appear clean, healthy and cared for.
These are fairly general but they are where I tend to start. |
Excellent post. This is exactly what I wanted to know. |
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Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:43 pm |
Glad you found these helpful. One more to add to the list is posture. Good posture helps your clothes and you look better. And as we age, some women allow their shoulders to curve forward slightly even if they keep the rest of their backs straight. Just something to be aware of.
Disclaimer: These are all just my opinion and I'm certain other members of the forum have additional helpful observations. |
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Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:04 pm |
| ginnielizz wrote: |
| septemberamethyst wrote: |
Hair color, hair style, nails, makeup and wardrobe appropriate for age and lifestyle.
Clothing that fits well, and is free of stains/dirt/snags/loose threads, etc.
Shoes in good condition without scuffs/run down heels.
Handbags in good condition.
Skin, hair, teeth and nails that appear clean, healthy and cared for.
These are fairly general but they are where I tend to start. |
I really think you said it better than any of us! And truth be told, a LOT of my shoes are scuffy and some of my bags as well -- I will have to keep this in mind. Very valuable input, even though this wasn't my thread! |
I think this really says it. When I think of well groomed, I think of neat, clean, with a touch of elegance. The makeup is there to enhance, not exclaim. The nails are neat and well shaped, not tallons. Clothes fit well, but are not skin tight. Hair is neat and healthy.
Yes, Ivanka is well groomed, I typically am not (not dirty mind you, but rush out of the house in the morning at 60 mph, with a wet head, sigh . . . ) |
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