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Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:38 am |
Here is a link for Best Beauty Buys 2008 from InStyle magazine, US issue.
http://www.instyle.com/instyle/package/general/0,,20179693,00.html |
_________________ Female, 40, Norway. Normal/dry skin, starting to see signs of aging. Staples: Glycolic acid cleanser, SkinCeuticals Phloretin CF, Revaleskin, NIA24. |
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:54 am |
mmm, I have tried several of their previous best buys, but they seem not that efficient.
But thanks for the link, I am always curious for these lists. |
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:14 am |
I think price is more important to the makers of the list than efficiency of the products. At least in the skin care section they have chosen lots of cheaper alternatives. |
_________________ Female, 40, Norway. Normal/dry skin, starting to see signs of aging. Staples: Glycolic acid cleanser, SkinCeuticals Phloretin CF, Revaleskin, NIA24. |
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:30 am |
I agree - nothing I tried in the past from the list was really that impressive. |
_________________ Early 50s, Skin: combin.,semi-sensitive, fair with occasional breakouts, some old acne scars, freckles, under-eye wrinkles; Redhead with hazel eyes |
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:57 pm |
I have tried some of these products before and was not impressed by them. |
_________________ sensitive oily/combination, green eyes, brown hair, fair skin |
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Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:23 pm |
Septembergirl wrote: |
I think price is more important to the makers of the list than efficiency of the products. At least in the skin care section they have chosen lots of cheaper alternatives. |
Agree. If you go to MUA, you will find the highest recommended products are always cheap ones---because more people are using them, so they can get more reviews, and as people did not expect too much from cheap products, they don't mind giving recommendations. |
_________________ Combo, acne, dry inside, thick skin, never irrated. |
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:22 am |
I think these sort of stories are always advertising-driven, and take any of their "recommendations" with a grain of salt. This is the reason mediocre products like Great Lash are endlessly promoted, or the products some interviewed model "loves" also happen to be the one she's under contract to. |
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:21 pm |
I would believe reputable magazines to be more independent and reliable than models with a contract...
I think price plays a main role when they are listing products. I think it's supposed to be a list with products that most people can afford. That's probably why they call it Best Beauty Buys.
There are obviously better products to buy than those listed. |
_________________ Female, 40, Norway. Normal/dry skin, starting to see signs of aging. Staples: Glycolic acid cleanser, SkinCeuticals Phloretin CF, Revaleskin, NIA24. |
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:10 pm |
Septembergirl wrote: |
I would believe reputable magazines to be more independent and reliable than models with a contract...
I think price plays a main role when they are listing products. I think it's supposed to be a list with products that most people can afford. That's probably why they call it Best Beauty Buys.
There are obviously better products to buy than those listed. |
I would hope so too... but I really wonder. I'd love to find out how these lists are really compiled. |
_________________ 39, fair combo skin, dark brown hair, acne prone. |
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:53 pm |
This is such a scam. I know how magazines work, and this is how they work: Their advertisers give the editors free products and they choose those products as their "picks." Don't believe that it happens any other way, because it doesn't.
In this case, it is even more transparent, given the fact that the "ads" and the "editors' picks" are interspersed and exactly the same products! And they provide direct links to buy the products right there on the page.
--avalange
p.s. This happens even on fashion editorial pages as well. The in-house advertising reps demand that stylists use "entire looks" from a brand, i.e. you will never see a Ralph Lauren dress with Balenciaga shoes--RL would threaten to pull their million $ ad pages if that happened. Editorial is really only ever veiled advertising. And cosmetics companies continually send gratis to editors so they will cover their products favorably. My closets are stocked full of free products I give away to friends and family. |
_________________ http://newnaturalbeauty.tumblr.com/ 37, light-toned olive skin, broken caps, normal skin. My staples: Osea cleansing milk, Algae Oil, Advanced Protection Cream, Eyes & Lips, Tata Harper, Julie Hewett makeup, Amazing Cosmetics Powder, & By Terry Light Expert, Burnout, and daily inversion therapy and green smoothies! |
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:19 pm |
Personally, I don't believe the "beauty picks" in magazines. I prefer to hear from everyday people. I always found EDS to be a great source for product reviews. If a product is good it will be praised for months or years. However, even in forums we need to be careful of new fades that hit the market. |
_________________ As I am getting older I realize my biggest beauty secret is smile more and frown less. Be aware that wrinkles do not make a person unattractive. Cynicism, unforgiveness, anger and jealousy are the real culprits. Sixty something |
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:44 pm |
In magazines - at least for me - some of the editor picks have turned out good. The other beauty picks I have not agreed with. As Winnie stated...... In most cases it IS best to see what stands the test of time and from people you trust . |
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:12 pm |
From what I recall from earlier years, the jury that picks the products consists of makeup artists, estheticians and representatives from the magazine. It will probably be naive to believe that none of them have some sorts of links to cosmetic companies.
On the other hand, editors and beauty journalists will undermine their own profession and lose trustworthy among readers if they use other criteria than quality when they make the list. I believe there are many conscious readers and customers.. |
_________________ Female, 40, Norway. Normal/dry skin, starting to see signs of aging. Staples: Glycolic acid cleanser, SkinCeuticals Phloretin CF, Revaleskin, NIA24. |
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:14 pm |
Good point! |
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:17 pm |
If MAC is so widely used by the industry then how come for the longest time it was never listed or used on a cover model. Its all a form of advertising sadly. |
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Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:13 am |
I already read the issue! I'm obsessed with InStyle and get it every month. It's very convenient to have a list of products that have already been tried and reviewed for you! It sure makes my cosmetics shopping easier! |
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Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:33 am |
jess55 wrote: |
I already read the issue! I'm obsessed with InStyle and get it every month. It's very convenient to have a list of products that have already been tried and reviewed for you! It sure makes my cosmetics shopping easier! |
H Jess. What did you think of what Avalange said? Does it influence you at all? I think Avalange is right, personally.
I see those kind of mags as basically extended advertisements that you have to pay for. |
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Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:37 am |
To keep a strict limit between editorial articles and advertisements is a basic element in all journalism in the Western world. This applies to political journalism as well as beauty/consumer related journalism.
To run a free press uninfluenced by market forces should be a main issue for all editors, whether they work for local newspapers, NY Times or beauty magazines.
Reporters have always been, and will always be, offered free gifts and trips, and they are constantly put under pressure from commercial companies.
Large, reputable magazines and newspapers have introduced a policy on refusing to accept freebies. They buy all the products they review to minimize the risks of influence. Smaller and less serious publications may not have this policy.
If a journalist writes a rave review of a trip or a product based on gifts and services from a company, it's extremely unprofessional and against all ethical standards and values.
In many countries the press ethics (including these type of links between the free press and market forces) are closely supervised by The national press organizations. In my home country, publications which are not following the ethical standards are criticized in public and lose their trustworthy.
Personally, I don't believe that there are many editors and journalists in serious publications who are willing to "sell their soul" for some bottles of anti-age serums.
That said, I believe all consumers of beauty products should be critical to all rave reviews, do a little research on their own and read ingredient lists before spending money on expensive products. |
_________________ Female, 40, Norway. Normal/dry skin, starting to see signs of aging. Staples: Glycolic acid cleanser, SkinCeuticals Phloretin CF, Revaleskin, NIA24. |
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Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:44 am |
I bought the instyle mag and enjoyed looking it over..I use and like some of the products recommended, not so crazy about others and want to try some..it's a magazine...I took everything I read with a grain of salt..
Lou |
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Wed May 14, 2008 5:16 pm |
I don't normally believe what the magazines said.
There are a lot of black box on it.
If you know how the editors tried the products and how did they get the free goody bags from the company. I never trust what they said.
I just have a quick look on the list.
It was useless. |
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Wed May 14, 2008 6:25 pm |
i like some of products listing on it.
thanks for sharing |
_________________ 36,asian,freckles,dry to normal skin type |
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