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Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:39 am      Reply with quote
I'm wondering if anyone here knows how to change oil to emulsion? is there a particular substance to make it become watery?? sort of like the oil make up remover by shu uemera which becomes milkly when comes in contact with water..
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Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:57 am      Reply with quote
it requires an emulsifier.

so, something like lecithin, which binds to both oils and water, and the joins the two.

you can buy lecithin, but it exists naturally in things like eggs--which is why mayonaise doesn't separate out into oil and vinegar.
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Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:30 am      Reply with quote
Yup you need an emulsifier. There are bunches, here:

http://www.theherbarie.com

Just do a search on "emulsifiers." When you click on each product name, it'll give you a full rundown of what it is, how to use it, percentage of use, etc.
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Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:50 am      Reply with quote
thanks!! so if i were to add it into my home-made oil, it'll become watery?? or it'll only become watery when comes in contact with water? because i plan to make my own make up remover.. however, it's rather hard to get rid of oil with just water.. so i always need to follow up with a cleanser..
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Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:51 am      Reply with quote
Borax--the laundry stuff--will emulsify oils with water, honey, rosewater, etc.
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Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:53 pm      Reply with quote
nakeidknits wrote:
Borax--the laundry stuff--will emulsify oils with water, honey, rosewater, etc.



Borax is used in laundry detergents and bleaches. It releases hydrogen peroxide when it reacts with water. Hydrogen peroxide acts as a bleach, and this action is aided by the alkaline solution also produced by the reaction.

I'm thinking 'bleach' and an 'alkalinity' of possibly 10 plus, isn't something I want on my face.. Shock

In a pinch, when I don't have polysorbate on hand to emulsify oil + water, I just use a spoonful of whatever cream I have that compliments what I'm making. (If the ingredients include water + oil, it's in there).

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Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:54 am      Reply with quote
but how do i know if a cream is a water+oil formulae? Thanks!
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Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:11 pm      Reply with quote
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but how do i know if a cream is a water+oil formulae? Thanks!


Look at the list of ingredients on the jar or box it comes in. For example, if it has water, an oil + polysorbate, it's already emulsified.

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Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:40 pm      Reply with quote
Can you also use vegetable glycerin as an emulsifier?
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I think I read somewhere that you could use vegetable glycerin.

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Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:25 pm      Reply with quote
i see.. thanks!
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Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:53 pm      Reply with quote
hotiron123 wrote:
Can you also use vegetable glycerin as an emulsifier?


glycerin will break up emulsions if anything due to lowering the surface tension of the water
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:08 am      Reply with quote
Thank you for confirming, edenfield!
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