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Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:27 am  |
OH my, oh MY,
I was so glad my VIVIER arrived (a week a go) use it every morning, and like it.
To day my love says, what do you use on your face it's full of blackheads? I run tho a mirror and look closely whaaaaaa tons of it all over.
what to do !! stop the Vivier I understand.
But is this normal, and what to do with my C
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Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:11 am |
Yes, I developed them while using CSRx C serum. After discontinuing the serum they disappeared quickly. This was a number of years ago, but recall that I tried one or two other serums just to see if it was an issue with that particular brand. Nope, blackheads appeared regardless of the brand.
Recently started using Retin-A Micro and on impulse bought MyChelle brand C serum thinking it would be nice to give my skin some extra protection and nourishment. I FULLY expected to see blackheads again, but it's been over a week and my skin is completely clear! Yay!
Was planning on posting here to ask if others thought, as I do, that the exfoliation of the R-A is preventing the blackheads? If so, perhaps some gentle exfoliation would help you?
I do like the MyChelle serum because it also has CoQ10, but the consistency is no different than other serums.
Summary from the web site:
The Perfect C Serum - 0.5 oz.
Vitamin C treatment containing stabilized L-ascorbic acid at 15 percent concentration, complexed with other antioxidants such as wine phytoalexins, CoQ10, retinol, lycopene, beta carotene, D-beta glucosamine and D-beta fructan. L-ascorbic acid stimulates and supports those enzymes in the skin that produce and maintain collagen. Excellent for Acne skin too. List Price: $38.95
Sale Price: $35.06
It's kind of expensive, but am telling myself the other ingredients are essential, hence the price is worth it. 
May well try CSRx again since it's a perfectly good product and more cost effective. If I do, will let you know what happens. |
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Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:58 am |
I too seem to have issues with c-serums and congestion/blackheads. Not sure if it's the actual vit. c or other ingredients in the serums. It's frustrating becausae it's great for the skin ~ we eat it seems we should be able to put it on the skin without issue.
Tea, I have the Mychelle C-serum too!! I haven't started it yet but when I do it will be my 3rd c-serum attempt. I love the ingerdient list (e.g. glucosamine and coq10). I would think the exfoliation from Retin-a would help keep the pores clearer - maybe you've hit on the right combo! |
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Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:43 pm |
| Me too I have now a few blackhead, I NEVER had them in my life, I email the company, I will let you know what they say. |
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Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:43 pm |
| ooop not the company, but the place that I purchase Vivier |
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Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:01 pm |
I am new to Vivier 20 and love it!!! By the feel of it I think it has an oil base. If you have oily skin or tendency for blackheads water based products are best. When I was younger I used Cellex C.IMO Cellex C is one of the best Vit. C products for oily/breakout prone skin.
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Blackheads named for their typically dark color, are considered an open comedo. The sebum plug has reached the surface of the skin. The color of the blackhead is not caused by dirt, but by excess skin pigment, debris and skin particles.
When dealing with blackheads, a person is advised to:
Avoid oil-based cosmetics, which can increase the blockage of pores. Use water-based cosmetics and wash your face thoroughly each evening.
Eat a well-balanced diet.
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Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:12 pm |
| I use obagi vit c 10%, at first few weeks i got more black head, and I stop for few week, then I use again, now my skin its good, no breakout, nothing, my skin its smoother and pigment are lighter.. |
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using obagi now.. I had combination skin, oily on T zone and sensitive on cheek area.. easy to get breakout on chin and jaw line.. |
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:47 am |
Thanks Winnie,....I also like the VIVIER can't stand it  ....that I have those black monsters.
I didn't now that it is oil based. And also that there by differences in C like water base or alcohol  ,well what can I do??
I don't like it ,that I have purchase the VIVIER and can use it anymore.
Maybe I give it a try whit diluting or is that not possible,....or do I really have tho buy a water base. |
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:48 am |
dleonard Like it that you come back to tell
thanks  |
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:02 pm |
I have come to the conclusion that Vitamin C serum isn't for me, so I won't be bothering to try any additional brands because it's expensive to test all these products! Especially when a sample seems OK and then when I buy the product and use it for longer, I get more negative reactions.
Yes, I noticed more blackheads with all the C's I've tried -- Vivier, Cellex C, PSF. In addition to little bumps on my face.
I'm glad some people have good success with Vitamin C; I did like how smooth my skin felt and how much more even toned it was. But, in the long run it was not worth it for me. |
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:53 pm |
| I noticed my large pores having more black in them after using vita C but then I was using too much so I cut back, I realized that I don't need to coat my face and feel it all over like a moisturizer. |
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47, former sunworshipper, skincare addict, oily T-zone, fair skinned, love Vita A, some hyperpigmentation, microneedler. |
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:10 pm |
| I found lots of bumps and blackheads on my skin too after vitamin C (that cost the earth) and it had taken almost a year (where I was very sad about my skin) to get rid of them. Now using kate somerville and recently fell in love with phytomer whilst on holidays in Canada. Don't think I will use vitamin C again despite the "benefits". |
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Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:11 am |
Maybe is what bugaboo says on option .
I indeed use much it's sink in so well. And that can be the course that the C is oxide rend in the pores and get black(oxygen??)
Butt I'm scared tho do so.
Because I been scrubbing peeling and extracting so match this week(to get released off the blackheads) that my skin now is mad at my, having all kind of irritation |
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Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:26 pm |
this is the response I got:
I spoke with the Medical Aesthetician and the Vivier Vitamin C does not cause blackheads. Most people are under the misconception that because it's an oil it would make you break out but Vivier™ Vitamin-C IDS™ acts on the surface of the skin as an anti-aging factor by neutralizing free radicals produced in the skin. Vitamin-C also stimulates collagen formation topically and increases skin vitality and youthfulness. Vitamin-C IDS™ (L-Ascorbic Acid) acts quickly by being absorbed topically into the skin and deposited in the spaces between cells where its action is optimal and controlled.
hope this helps |
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Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:18 pm |
| This is interesting -- I tried the same MyChelle C Serum listed above, and it didn't exactly give me blackheads, but it did make me break out in a bunch of tiny whitehead-like pustules around the bottom of my nostrils. I discontinued right away, and that cleared up. But ever since then, I've been afraid of trying any C serums at all! |
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Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:07 pm |
| Vit C gave me a mild case of blackheads, nothing to really worry about. However, it help attribute to my perioral dermatitis. Needless to say, after two visits with my derm. I no long have any dermatitis. How old are you? It could be too rich for your age still. Or, are you prone to blackheads normally? And how much are you using? Maybe you just need to cut back. Or look for a product that contains a lower concentration of vit c. Good luck! |
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Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:19 pm |
Well Dleonard, I also have ask them, and waiting for response haha.This is my letter, waiting yet for response
Good day to all,
I have ordered vivier by EDS ,I wash very happy with it.
But until one week of use my (enlarged pores)Ar all BLACKHEADS !! .....yak.
Can you help me out. what to do??
Or can I simple NOT USE the VIVIER anymore. I have cancel the use right now.
Waiting for replay.
Diana Roos
Here is the link for ladies with VIVIER PROBLEMS
also
http://www.vivierpharma.com/contact_us.php |
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:45 am |
| I have been using Cellbone's vitamin C with 10% glycolic and am seeing my pore size decrease and no increase of blackheads. |
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:15 am |
I'm still waiting for a response from Vivier.
I'm 46 year old, and never had a blackhead in my life..............yak!!!
I did use 10% cellex C prior to vivier, and it did the same thing. I'm using it in the morning only.
How do you get rid of those black monsters??? I pulled one out last night, it made my face so red..............and it hurts!!!  |
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:14 am |
Hahaha I am sorry dleonard butt I have done the seem, a HOLE week long. Whit BHA (salicylic)the best for blackheads,...daily.
masks two(the strongest) Mudd and Queen Helene (the weakest).And a few with my hands(OH YES it hurts)
Well now are my pores not black anymore. |
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Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:56 pm |
Hello dear ladies
at last I have a answer from Vivier.
Here it is.
Dear Diana,
If you are getting blackheads this means that you are using too much serum 3 drops one for the head and both cheeks is what we recommend to cover the whole face. Our serums are the best in the world they are very strong and very concentrated try to use less serum and let me know how it goes.
Best Regards,
Mike
I hope for all of the ladies with the seem problems ,it helps.
I will give it a one more try  |
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Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:26 am |
| Thanks girl, I use only 2-3 drops when I use this product and I don't get any blackhead on my face and very happy with it. |
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Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:05 am |
that is great news, I did not get a response from vivier yet..........  |
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Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:33 pm |
| I have used tons of C serums and i think it's the base that is probably causing problems. a lot of C serums are made in a base of propylene/butylene glycol which are both kinda oily. I would suggest finding an HA serum that has a base of distilled water or hyaluronic acid. |
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Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:43 pm |
| peppy wrote: |
| I found lots of bumps and blackheads on my skin too after vitamin C (that cost the earth) and it had taken almost a year (where I was very sad about my skin) to get rid of them. Now using kate somerville and recently fell in love with phytomer whilst on holidays in Canada. Don't think I will use vitamin C again despite the "benefits". |
just wondering do those who experience bumps notice that the bumps develop into actual acne or do they stay as bumps? tks! |
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