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Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:03 am  |
It has been a long time since I have been excited about any new launches in the niche that is all natural skincare. I have grown tired of paraben free brands that often use other equally questionable ingredients. I have suffered irritations with products that are not protected from bacteria or they are so full of grain alcohol that they become drying.
I noticed the purple-pink packaging of Nude Skincare in Fresh and Wild first and then in Harvey Nichols and it certainly looks different. As I applied it on my hand I noticed that it also smells and feels different. The texture is incredibly light and sinks in quickly and it smells kind of herbal, but not of essential oils. (The SA suggested it is the orchid oil which imparts the scent.)
I had a look at the ingredient list and saw so many names I have never heard of before, like Cupuacu, Manhetti, Baobab and Avellana, all in there to feed the skin with essential fatty acids.
The main point of difference with this brand is that they use pre and probiotics in the moisturizers. Other ingredients include peptides and biocompatible phytoactives.
I am quite taken with the brand, but I have not heard anything about these ingredients before. It is expensive and they did not have any samples (although they said they were hoping to get some soon). I was wondering if anyone on the board has tried it or if you could take a look at the website and let me know what you think. I could possibly get a moisturizer to start with and see what I think, but I might need some encouragement 
This is the website:
http://www.nudeskincare.com/ |
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:33 am |
Thanks for this website Smoothskin!
I searched but cannot determine if they ship outside the UK (my hunch is no since it is so new).
I notice they have a facial cleansing oil!
I'm intrigued by their lip treatment as well.
I love researching new lines  |
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:43 am |
48 quid for 15 ml of serum  Hell i'd want a new face for that price!
Sorry. Not very helpful was it? i wonder if, given it is so 'natural' it could be diy-ed  |
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Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:45 am |
Argh, yet another website that doesn't list ingredients! WHY do they do this? I am an ingredient freak like you, Smoothskin, and I always want to see the full list. I get so annoyed by sites that only list a few select "actives" or nothing at all.
Anywho.
I haven't heard about this, but I'd be curious as well - it is quite pricy! But I'm with you on being annoyed by brands who don't contain parabens, but still contain other sketchiness. Or brands that reformulate to remove parabens, but still have more chemicals than I can be bothered to read aloud on their labels.
I'd be interested to see how this stuff feels, smells, and works - maybe I'll try to track it down once samples become available! Thanks for sending the link, it's always good to have something to keep an eye on... |
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Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:28 pm |
| How about the whole thing of putting pre and probiotics in skincare? Has anyone heard of this before - could it really be effective in a cream? |
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Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:28 pm |
| I managed to get my hands on samples today, so I will let you know what I think. I have just tried the Cleansing Milk (nothing special) and the Scrub (a bit harsh) so far, but I am looking forward to the serum and moisturizer. |
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Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:51 pm |
| How did you get them? I imagine it's a UK-only thing, but thought it was worth asking. |
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32, fair hair/eyes/skin, always a mix of dry/oily/sensitive/acne/clogged pores. But I keep getting compliments on my skin, so something must be working! Beauty blog at http://heliotro.pe; online dating coaching at http://theheartographer.com |
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Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:54 pm |
Probiotics is intended for the intestines, to replace the healthy flora - bacteria. I imagine they are trying a 'new' angle at getting a skin care out into the market place.
Paraben free is all the rage because companies realise consumers are becoming wise, however there are some important things to remember with this. Companies can keep it under a certain percent and not put it on the label. They can also "attach" it to another ingredient so it does not have to be put on the label. Such as Grape Fruit Seed Extract. A study was done in Germany which showed the reason this ingredient was preserving so well was because IT was also preserved in a base of Parabens. You may get the ingredient alone with some companies but in reality, alone, it only has a shelf life of up to 3 months. You need to ask yourself things like 'How long has this product sat on the shelf for already?' and 'How long did it spend in packing, storage and transport?' If you decide this would be near expiry date already, yet the date on the product gives longer, then ..............you know the rest. It doesn't take rocket science.
Don't know if this is of any help but hopefully it will help to arm you for the next skin care shopping trip! (Sorry for the long reply!!) Good luck. |
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Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:03 pm |
Hi Kitten
Hmm never thought about what you said about attaaching the parabens to other ingredients---thats very sneaky of the companies 
So do you think that all organic, all natural, paraben free skincare lines arent really living up to what they claim? And is there no company that can offer ALL natural, safe products then? |
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Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:18 pm |
Hi Yeah Yeah! I do know that many companies are sneaky - after all they are out there to sell! I don't think it is good if I name them on here but I am happy to give you more information if you so wish.
I personally use Kuush as it is straight down the line strict. No preservatives, fillers, even no plastic packaging because of health risks. It is also vegan friendly for those interested in that. And the plus of it all is that it works wonders.
Kuush and Next Of Kin are the only 2 companies I know of that are not shady. They are out to educate people in the truth. They are both high end products, so if you are looking for one that is in the lower price bracket, there is only one I would recommend and I apologise but I will have to get back to you with the name and details as I don't remember it off hand. (it is new) |
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Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:28 am |
| I took a look at the site and they don't seem to list the ingredients. I'm not sure how I feel about a product line that pushes how great its ingredients are but then hides them... |
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Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:13 am |
He he, my thoughts too, chimera.
Well at least we do know one of the ingredients that they don't use; their website proclaims they do not use water at all! This makes it easy for them to avoid preservatives, and enables them to adopt the label of being "preservative-free". Anhydrous formulations do not need preservation. |
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Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:17 am |
| I totally agree about ingredients, and I find it INCREDIBLY frustrating when companies don't post them on their websites - but TONS of reputable companies don't! Dermalogica, Vincent Longo, Chanel... drives me crazy to have to email a company for that sort of thing, especially when they normally take days to reply. A real pet peeve of mine, especially with companies that emphasize ingredient content - you said it! |
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32, fair hair/eyes/skin, always a mix of dry/oily/sensitive/acne/clogged pores. But I keep getting compliments on my skin, so something must be working! Beauty blog at http://heliotro.pe; online dating coaching at http://theheartographer.com |
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Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:39 am |
| kitten wrote: |
Hi Yeah Yeah! I do know that many companies are sneaky - after all they are out there to sell! I don't think it is good if I name them on here but I am happy to give you more information if you so wish.
I personally use Kuush as it is straight down the line strict. No preservatives, fillers, even no plastic packaging because of health risks. It is also vegan friendly for those interested in that. And the plus of it all is that it works wonders.
Kuush and Next Of Kin are the only 2 companies I know of that are not shady. They are out to educate people in the truth. They are both high end products, so if you are looking for one that is in the lower price bracket, there is only one I would recommend and I apologise but I will have to get back to you with the name and details as I don't remember it off hand. (it is new) |
Thanks for the info kitten. I look forward to hearing which brand that is and your insider info! ( BTW, how come you know so much about the natural skincare lines, are you working in that industry?)
What is the price range of Kuush anyway? And have you personally used the Nude skincare brand? |
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Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:56 pm |
Hi everyone, it is great to see such an interesting discussion on this thread. The sneakiest company I have encountered with regards to the preservative issue is a company that promised me they used no parabens, and then I noticed the ingredient Germall on the list and a little bit of googling showed that this is indeed a name for a group of parabens...
Anyway, I tried the samples yesterday, and yes I got them in the UK. The Cleansing Milk did not remove my makeup brilliantly and the scrub felt too harsh. I was quite happy with the texture of the serum and the moisturizer, and it felt like it was absorbed by my skin, but when I woke up in the morning there seemed to be a film on my skin... I am going to try again and see if perhaps I applied too much, so I will let you know. I also tried the Miracle Mask and this was for me the instant hero product as it is based on AHAs.
Thank you Kitten for your response. I also had doubts about what pre and probiotics could do for your skin. I have never seen any information which suggests that applying these biotics topically can improve the skin.
Kitten, by the way, what do you think of Jurlique? Are they sneaky too? Feel free to pm me if you don't want to say anything negative on the board. I would like to try Kuush, but ordering from Australia seems a bit excessive. I would be really interested to hear what you think about Jurlique, and I agree the biotics in skin care sounds like a new angle. |
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Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:08 pm |
| And kitten, if you don't mind posting on the thread, please go ahead - I'm curious about your thoughts on Jurlique too! Do you know of any sort of watchdog site (like EWG, for example) that might keep an eye on "natural" companies that slip in parabens without naming them? |
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32, fair hair/eyes/skin, always a mix of dry/oily/sensitive/acne/clogged pores. But I keep getting compliments on my skin, so something must be working! Beauty blog at http://heliotro.pe; online dating coaching at http://theheartographer.com |
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Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:29 pm |
I wish they did keep a watch on them ginnieliz! It is frustrating for the consumer to try and learn enough about skin care to stay on top of it all, especially considering this is just one aspect - then there is food that you eat as well, if you are concerned about organic food. And what does that allow growers to do and not to do!
Jurlique use a preservative that is a formaldehyde donor. May concern some, others it may not. Just depends on the individual and how strict they want to be with what they use. There are many 'natural' companies that 'slip' ingredients in that consumers may be less than pleased with.
Just do as much homework as you need to in order to be happy with what you wish to use. |
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Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:39 pm |
| Hm, do you know the name of the chemical Jurlique uses, so I can look it up on Skin Deep? Also, in case you've never explored it, that website might be of interest to you, too! |
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32, fair hair/eyes/skin, always a mix of dry/oily/sensitive/acne/clogged pores. But I keep getting compliments on my skin, so something must be working! Beauty blog at http://heliotro.pe; online dating coaching at http://theheartographer.com |
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Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:50 pm |
Thanks for that ginnieliz. I have actually looked up that sight before - and continue to do so.
The ingredient they use is Hydroxymethylglycinate. It could also be known under other names so I am not sure what Skin Deep may have on them - if anything.
I will look through my personal data base as soon as I can and can email the info to you if you wish. |
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Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:18 am |
| Smoothskin wrote: |
Hi everyone, it is great to see such an interesting discussion on this thread. The sneakiest company I have encountered with regards to the preservative issue is a company that promised me they used no parabens, and then I noticed the ingredient Germall on the list and a little bit of googling showed that this is indeed a name for a group of parabens...
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The trade-named "Germall" line of preservatives do not actually contain any parabens at all. The manufacturer is International Specialty Products Corporation, and their website lists details of their product ingredients here: http://ispcorp.com/products/preservatives/index.html
Perhaps there is confusion with the trade-named "Germaben" preservatives?
After all, they do both start with "Germa..."? |
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Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:16 am |
| I can't remember if maybe it was Germaben that was in the ingredients list, just remember contacting the company and not being happy with the response... It is a few years back, thanks though, and I am glad I did not name the company in case I got it wrong. |
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Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:09 pm |
Agreed, they do sound the same don't they! I know that Germaben ll contains Parabens.
Have a good weekend all. |
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:31 am |
| kitten wrote: |
| Kuush and Next Of Kin are the only 2 companies I know of that are not shady. |
I have never heard of Next of Kin (and no luck with Google). Is it also an Australian company? |
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:46 am |
| tiger_tim wrote: |
| kitten wrote: |
| Kuush and Next Of Kin are the only 2 companies I know of that are not shady. |
I have never heard of Next of Kin (and no luck with Google). Is it also an Australian company? |
I tried to google it as well and could not find anything. |
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Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:54 am |
Just searched the forum for Nude, I should have known you'd have clocked this range some time ago Smoothskin
I read about this range in a magazine last year as it was started by the chap who started Fresh & Wild (the organic grocery store in the UK that Whole Foods bought to dip their toe in the UK market before launching their store last year) as his new business. I then saw it in Whole Foods. Here is an online link to the article that I read last year http://www.nudeskincare.com/latest/2007/6/harpers_bazaar_june_2007/
Recently my facialist gave me some samples of it as she really rated it, I used them, liked them and have just bought the cleansing wash, clarifying toner and hydrating toner.
I really rate the cleansing wash! I think it's better than Organic Pharmacy, Ren Rose and Trilogy Rose which were the washes I used before. It really cleanses and doesn't strip your skin. It's 18 pounds for 200 ml so comparable to the others. The clarifying lotion is also good, it gives your skin a mild exfoliation.
Space NK is stocking the range and has samples in branches and in Harvey Nichols though sadly not the serum which I'm eyeing but is one of the pricier items. Also I am interested in the cleansing oil...
From googling, appears the range is in Barneys in the US. Perhaps Whole Foods too? |
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