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Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:51 pm  |
I recently started a regime of the Cellcosmet Activator Gel and Concentrated Night Cream, along with the Eye Cream.
I am in my early 20s, with porous skin prone to congestion (hormonally related but also trigged by topical products during sensitive periods) and have issues with redness and irritation. I have a rather oily T zone but easily suffer flaky skin from drying products like oil/gel cleansing routines and using sunscreen.
Lately my skin condition in terms of sensitivity and redness began to improve because of a DIY calming serum I had been using regularly. I stopped using the serum after 3 weeks to try some Cellcosmet face care as I had been having good results (no reactions) to the Eye cream.
I started Cellcosmet out of concern for my skin texture, it was chronically dehydrated but congested. I could not use oil based products because it caused mild irritation and chronic congestion. I absolutely cannot tolerate acid/peel type products because it causes my redness to resurge with a vengeance.
Surprisingly, using the night cream DID NOT cause any congestion at all, even with a week of continued use. I always used the Activator Gel before, and quite often with the Dual Action scrub as well. I did not find any of the products to be irritating, despite the Activator gel containing ginger and cinnamon EOs.
In fact, the first full cleansing/moisturising regime with just Cellcosmet products left my skin incredibly soft, I simply had to continue to see if it was really Cellcosmet doing the work. Indeed, every time after applying Cellcosmet my skin is a lot softer.
The more substantial improvements for me were the improvements in skin texture. I had always thought that the rough looking skin I had, esp around the T zone (more oily areas) was because of sebum and congestion. But after using the night cream I realised that most of the rough texture had smoothed out - so perhaps rough skin was caused by prolonged dehydration???
So in conclusion, Cellcosmet did not cause congestion or acne, did not cause my redness to worsen, and did not create any irritation. My skin normally develops deep congestion which progresses into milia like acne when it has been in contact with not agreeable cosmetics or face products. I did have some white heads while using Cellcosmet, but unusually they appeared and disappeared with a day without leaving marks - so even if they were caused by the cream, my skin was able to turn over faster to absorb the pimples.
I do not think that everyone with similar skin conditions would suit Cellcosmet creams. Unless you know for sure that your skin has strengthened itself against comedogenic ingredients and is not acne prone, then it may not be for you.
I avoid the night cream during TTOM when my skin is slightly more temperamental, and use clay masks to cleanse the skin. I extend the cream application to the neck and decolletage area. I never use the cream during the day because the Activator gel does enhance ingredient penetration, plus a cream during the day is not a good option for oily skin. |
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Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:14 am |
| I am not surprised that your skin improved using Cellcosmet. If you use products suited to your skin from either Cellcosmet or Valmont then you should find that they will be very kind to your skin. These companies seem to be highly criticised on their ingredients but IMO they have put years of research into their products and that research ensures that their products do not irritate the skin in any way, nor do they cause pore clogging. |
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Skin: Over 60, ex combination now sensitive, Cellcosmet |
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Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:20 pm |
I enjoyed reading your experience. But I must say that I was told that the concentrated day & night cream is more for severe dry skin. Ultra Vital is one down from that.
So what I do is purchase a full size jar of Ultra Vital and use it all year round. I make sure that I don't use more than one tiny spoon full of this cream. (It's provided with every large size of Ultra Vital jar)
In the winter, (below 30) or when I'm outside for sports or cleaning the snow, I use the concentrate moisturizer. |
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Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:43 pm |
I thought the Ultra Vital was the higher concentration cream, at 25%, and the concentrated at 15/17% depending on day/night? That is what I have read from the materials provided by my supplier.
Anyhow, what the cream has done for my skin is really miraculous. My forehead used to have a sort of patch like distinction around the oilier tzone spanning out just before the temples, it looked slightly more raised and redder in colour. Now the entire forehead skin is smooth, same with all the skin on the face.
I also use a *very* minute amount of cream, although I use a little more on the neck area since that has been neglected for years. |
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Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:32 am |
| miranets wrote: |
I thought the Ultra Vital was the higher concentration cream, at 25%, and the concentrated at 15/17% depending on day/night? That is what I have read from the materials provided by my supplier.
Anyhow, what the cream has done for my skin is really miraculous. My forehead used to have a sort of patch like distinction around the oilier tzone spanning out just before the temples, it looked slightly more raised and redder in colour. Now the entire forehead skin is smooth, same with all the skin on the face.
I also use a *very* minute amount of cream, although I use a little more on the neck area since that has been neglected for years. |
I stock this range and yes this is correct, the Ultra Vital has the highest cconcentration of the biotegral cells @ 24%. The concentrated day 15.3% and night 17% |
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Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:09 pm |
| Thank you for clarifying that for me. I can't believe how Holt Renfrew staff provides inaccurate information. |
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Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:51 pm |
Skincare, so you have been using the Ultra Vital continuously?
Also, for those who have used both Ultra Vital and Concentrated day/night, is there much difference in texture for the creams? Is UV thicker or greasier?
I have tried samples of of the Preventative Day and did not feel any difference from the Concentrated.
Cellcosmet also makes several various Cabin Only products, like a Occlusive Hydration Mask and Gentle Peeling Cream - I wonder if anyone has used these as well? |
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:56 am |
| miranets wrote: |
Skincare, so you have been using the Ultra Vital continuously?
Cellcosmet also makes several various Cabin Only products, like a Occlusive Hydration Mask and Gentle Peeling Cream - I wonder if anyone has used these as well? |
I tried both at my facial with Cellcomet rep at Saks. I think that Occlsive mask is good after you apply UltraCells - it kind of "sets" them into your skin. And Peelin clream - I wish I could buy it for home use... Feeling of a new skin afterwords. |
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:52 am |
Thanks Greeneyes!
So Occlusive mask is a leave on product to help "seal" the Vial type products?
I had always thought of peeling cream as similar to Pevonia's enzyme peel but in a more moisturising base.
I'm really keen to try the Ultra Vial, I have read that it is 50% bio-integral cells, and if that part is what my skin likes most about the Cellcosmet creams then I'm sure it will be a great booster. |
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:10 pm |
Miranets, I still can't get over how wrong I am. You see, I was given incorrect information from the specialized SA at Holt Renfrew. I was told that the Concentrate is a lot more moisturizing and is for "older" skin than Ultra Vital. This is why I've been using Ultra Vital.
I really can't get over the fact that I was given incorrect information. Really, I can't.
Just to let you know that Ultra Vital has not given me any problems for my acne prone skin. Same goes for Anti-Stress cream mask.
What is Occlsive mask?
As for the texture of Preventative, Concentrate and Ultra Vital, I found them all to have similar texture. I think the Concentrate had a feeling of masking...holding in the moisture but it has been a long time so I will have to try it again and let you know.
Cellcosmet also makes several various Cabin Only products, like a Occlusive Hydration Mask and Gentle Peeling Cream - I wonder if anyone has used these as well?
What is Cabin products? Where do you find that?
I wanted to share with you that I found out that the scientist who created Cellcosmet also makes Alchimie Forever skin care line for a cheaper price. I wish EDS would sell this line also. I really want to try their body care line and I plan to try on of Cellcosmet body cream. |
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:14 pm |
Hi Skincare
"Cabin only" products is a range (some from the personal as well) designed for use in spas. I have found some products are actually smaller, only 4oz, while others are the large 16oz sizes. There are some products which are not for sale to personal users, like the Occlusive Mask and Gentle Peeling Cream. They are designed to be used in facials.
I have not used the Occlusive Mask but from the sound of it it is a leave on product designed to seal in Vial type products. |
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:16 pm |
| I concern if it is too early to use it in my 20's. I am thinking probably it is too early. |
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:19 pm |
I don't think you can really start using certain products at certain stages of life, it is individual and depending on your skin condition. And most young people are exposed to more stress and pollutants than those a generation ago, so all that oxidative stress accumulates faster.
Certainly if you have good skin, take care and don't give it more than what it needs. But I just happen to have young, but dehydrated skin and I just know if I keep ignoring it until my late 20s it will be too late. |
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:27 pm |
| miranets wrote: |
I don't think you can really start using certain products at certain stages of life, it is individual and depending on your skin condition. And most young people are exposed to more stress and pollutants than those a generation ago, so all that oxidative stress accumulates faster.
Certainly if you have good skin, take care and don't give it more than what it needs. But I just happen to have young, but dehydrated skin and I just know if I keep ignoring it until my late 20s it will be too late. |
I totally agree with you on that. Although in my teens, I was always oily and I wish I knew how smart it is to use omeaga oil as a moisturizer and it helps balance the oil production.
So I guess Cabin is not made by Cellcosmet then?
Anyway, I am a huge fan of Cellcosmet. |
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:34 pm |
| Skincare, what I meant by the Cabin range is that it is still Cellcosmet, but the packaging is slightly different (all white) and for Spa use. |
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:40 pm |
| I wish there is a way to get my hands on them then. |
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Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:22 am |
I just wanted to add to the above discussion that I have tried both the Ultra Vital and the Concentrated Cream. I have dry / sensitive early forties skin. I found the Concentrate was too rich for me - it made my skin feel blotchy and I didn't like the feel of it. The Ultra Vital has been my moisturiser of choice over the last two winters. In fact, I'm going to purchase the large jar in the next week or so.
So, if the Ultra Vital has the higher percentage of the cell boosting ingredients, that certainly has not translated it into being an ultra rich product - at least for me. |
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Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:18 am |
| Last night and this morning, I applied Concentrate PM and AM and found that you could describe it as feeling heavier but it has something in it that glides on differently that Ultra Vital. Nonetheless, both are excellent and does not create acne problems for me. |
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:03 am |
Lately, for some reason my skin has been drinking up the cream after applying, so I decided to use a little more each time and the result is the same - the first few times I tried the cream I made sure to exfoliate to remove all dead skin which might hinder the absorption and I would still have a slightly greasy finish but now my skin looks more dewy than anything. BTW it is a warm humid summer here at the moment, spring rains mean extra moisture in the air and this is the time of year when my skin is extra congested because of the seasonal changes.
I have quite a few plant actives which are fat soluble like green tea polyphenols and various other antioxidants, I mixed some green tea into the cream and it blended extremely well. I am now adding bits and pieces of actives as the cream is such a good base for both water and fat soluble extracts. |
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:23 pm |
| Thanks for sharing that. What I normally do is if I find that my skin still feels dry, I will wait 20 minutes then apply again. |
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Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:15 am |
FYI The cabin/salon size peeling cream is the dual exfoliant. Just though you ladies would be interested in that info  |
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Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:17 am |
| thanks for clarifying that. I don't suppose the Occlusive Mask has an equivalent? |
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Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:58 pm |
| pal wrote: |
| FYI The cabin/salon size peeling cream is the dual exfoliant. Just though you ladies would be interested in that info |
That is good to know. Do you know how it is used? I'm afraid that maybe again, Holt Renfrew SA provided me with incorrect information. He said that I could use the dual exfoliant as a mask if I needed a deeper exfoliation.
Here is another confusion that I have. I've applied Cellcosmet gel cleanser and cream cleanser both on wet or dry skin. Which way is the proper way to wash your face with their product? |
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Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:21 pm |
I'm in my early twenties too and have recently started using cellcosmet! What an improvement!My skin is waayyy smoother and don't even get me started on how awsome the eye cream is! I've just purchased the sensitive day cream too! Boy I've really racked up the credit card charges this month!!  I'll have to be extra good until christmas now.  |
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Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:19 am |
| miranets wrote: |
| thanks for clarifying that. I don't suppose the Occlusive Mask has an equivalent? |
No equivalent for the Occlusive Mask. However this mask and the Anti stress are both non cellular treatments. |
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