LED (Split from Quasar Thread)
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free skin care · Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:04 am

Hello, MAcrisis, I'm eager to hear of your continued progress. I have the dpl. After 3 months or so, I now use it approx. 3 times a week. I like the results but, I'm always looking for something that will do MORE for me. Smile

free skin care · Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:38 pm

Mars wrote:

Hello, MAcrisis, I'm eager to hear of your continued progress. I have the dpl. After 3 months or so, I now use it approx. 3 times a week. I like the results but, I'm always looking for something that will do MORE for me. Smile

Mars: If you like the results from DPL and you only had it for 3 months, I'll suggest you to use it for few more months and then consider buying another LED machine.

I have Prolight Platinum, Quasar SP, Original LightStim, A multi-wavelength salon use LED machine (Red, Green, Blue, Amber, Infrared), Wonder Wand, 2 from heelspurs, and a "custom made" 623nm +- 5. If you asked me to pick only one from them (for Anti-anging purposes) I think I'll choose Prolight Platinum (I do not have Anti-Aging Lightstim.) I think Amber light is doing something extra. My melasma seems lighter lately after few months using it but I did not see any firming. Now I use Prolight Platinum 2x/week and Quasar SP 1x/week. From the "paper" Quasar generates 2.6 joules/cm2 and Prolight Platinum generates 4 ~ 7 joules/cm2 but Prolight only use continuous wave and Quasar has 2 pulsing mode (fast, slow, I don't know the frequency).

I always has a question: "On paper" Prolights generates more joules than Quasar but why the treatment time per spot Prolights suggested much longer than Quasar???

free skin care · Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:14 pm

MACrisis - ProLight Professional separate units treatment time per spot is 30 seconds, ProLight Platinum has mixed lights and recommended time per spot is 60 seconds. For Platimun time is longer to make up for fewer lights of each type (red + amber), while the total number of LEDs overall is the same. Is Quasar treatment time per spot less then 30 seconds?

free skin care · Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:45 pm

It's fair to compare apple to apple (2 red + 2 infrared, no Amber).

I think Quasar SP suggested 20 sec/spot. Prolight (Red & Amber) 30 sec/spot. But the joules Prolight generates (4 ~ 7, average 5.5) is more than twice as much as Quasar SP generates (2.6). Sorry, I know lots of you don't care the math but some of you do. (My major was computer science.)

free skin care · Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:12 pm

MACrisis wrote:

It's fair to compare apple to apple (2 red + 2 infrared, no Amber).

I think Quasar SP suggested 20 sec/spot. Prolight (Red & Amber) 30 sec/spot. But the joules Prolight generates (4 ~ 7, average 5.5) is more than twice as much as Quasar SP generates (2.6). Sorry, I know lots of you don't care the math but some of you do. (My major was computer science.)

I like the math...keep it coming!! Smile

Editing to add: I am almost scared to ask this, but do we have anything that compares all these?

I started a comparison, but have been so bogged down with work that I haven't been able to finish it.

MAC and Mpstat - if either of you would like to add to what I have, let me know and I will be glad to send it to you.

free skin care · Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:50 pm

Thank you MACrisis and Bethany! Very Happy

I double checked ProLight Professional and the specs state 4 - 9 joules per cm2 per treatment, that averages to 6.5 joules. I do care about specs and math, and having scientific background I am comfortable with numbers and math. Also I think that technical specifications of the devices are essence of the devices, the same as ingredients for lotions, and make lots of sense for those interested. I am very much interested in Bethany's findings.

I posted a post What to Look for in LED Devices on ProLight Platinum thread:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=364926
You'll need to scroll down to see the post.

free skin care · Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:13 am

These posts have been moved from the Quasar Light thread. The Q thread is long enough. Lets try to keep the forum organized. Splitting a thread is not ideal. In the future I will consider cutting and placing the post in a PM for the author to place in the appropriate thread. The PM's I am receiving are of such quantity that this matter must be addressed. This thread is not solo.

Mars is directing a question to MACrisis. From what I see MACrisis had no recent posts in the thread.

free skin care · Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:28 am

I have decided to lock this thread. If your post should be placed in another thread you can copy and paste rather then retype. I have started a new thread: "How do I decide on a LED device?" Perhaps this will be a good place for gathered information.

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=28996

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