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Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:05 am  |
I find this to be a lovely product line. The serum goes on silky smooth (it's a gel-like texture that glides easily on) & feels wonderful. I apply a light moisturizer on top (my skin is mature  combination-oily) & it looks great. I especially like it when I wake up in morning because it makes my skin feel soft & smooth without a hint of dryness on my cheeks. Lately I have been drinking alot more water & using this serum & have been very shocked at the progress I've made. I can't see my deep wrinkles going anywhere yet but overall Esther's Secret Serum is a definite keeper & I think that the masque will help with that. Applying the masque takes a little getting used to but I can tell that over time it will also be indispensible. I have tried similar masques but this goes on alot smoother & doesn't pull at your skin when you put it on. I still hold my face taut in the area that I'm applying it but I've always done that with any product anyway. I'm sure that if you give both a try you'll be pleased as well.
Also...the delivery was quicker than the purchase took to appear on my credit card! |
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Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:08 am |
I should have re-read my post. My syntax leaves alot to be desired but the product is great.  |
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Wed Sep 22, 2004 5:21 pm |
Leslie....
So good to hear that the products working well for you. 
I find that after using it for almost 5 months now, there is a tremendous difference in my skin, especially the eyes! I had "hooded" eyelids when I started with the masque and serum, but they are at least 80% improved. I actually have eyelids that show now! 
I talked to a man in Virginia that was so impressed with his wifes appearance shortly after using the product that he has been using it. He was amazed at how soft his skin felt and said that it made shaving a breeze! I haven't been able to talk my hubby into letting me "masque" him yet. 
I also talked with several others who are liking the product. I'll see if I can get them to post their experiences.
JUDY |
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Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:36 pm |
marvelous, wonderful, brilliant. Since I have been using a brush to apply so much better than the horrible sticky fingers I had the first time I used. Crows feet virtually gone although I must say the relaxaline was getting rid of those but the mask has helped. With my much improved practising patience my smokers above the lip lines are alot less noticable and mouth to nose lines are diminishing. Skin feels nicer and overall my face looks more toned. So I give 10 out of 10.
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Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:07 am |
| Mum who is 72 and I used this for the first time on Sunday. What a face masque, I have never in my life had a face masque that is so tight, I was amazed. Mum has quite deep lines on her forehead and lots of little lines on her cheeks, these were far less noticeable. It seemed to lessen my lines around the eyes as well....Left both our skin feeling so soft and make up went on brilliantly...Obviously this is the first time we've used it but I cant wait to see the results after a few months... |
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Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:49 am |
Is this a tissue off mask or does it harden on the skin?
-Cheri |
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Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:32 am |
It hardens on the skin, I've never felt anything like it, its great. You cant use a tissue to take it off, you have to soak your face in hot face flannels!
Mum said I should keep it on all time as it stopped me talking..mmmmm  |
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Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:26 pm |
Gucci, glad you seem pleased with the result so far. I would hate to recommend something that dissapointed you. I hope you continue to get good results.
Lori |
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Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:30 pm |
| mmmmmm I think I may have to put this on the shopping list |
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Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:04 pm |
I have been reading about this product with interest but I have a few questions that I am hoping one of you (or all) could answer.
What is the age group the products are targeted to? and did you use the serum as well,if so did you just add it to your regime or replace some products with it?
Thanks
Collette |
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Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:42 am |
Hi Collette
I don't know age group. Judy might but my guess is when you start to notice eyes jowling and lines appearing. At least I wish I had known about it before things became very noticable. 
I use the serum that came with mask on one side of face and ce on other so I can see which if either is making a difference. I also must confess I am still using relaxaline because I do feel that it really works.
So the short answer is I have added it to my normal routine. |
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Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:08 am |
Lori
Do you find the serum makes your face greasy??
I've been doing same as you, on one side using the serum and on the other using CE, and I've just incorporated my normal routine. For the past 2 days though the skin on the side of Esthers secret has been more greasy than the other side. Its probably my weird skin!!! I am impressed with the products though, gonna do another face masque tonight! |
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Tue Sep 28, 2004 2:24 pm |
Gucci,
I would say yes it is slightly greasy, but not enough to cause me to worry. By the time I have slapped sun screen on top which I do find greasy and then foundation, if I remember. My skin is back to normal. |
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Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:38 pm |
| Collette wrote: |
I have been reading about this product with interest but I have a few questions that I am hoping one of you (or all) could answer.
What is the age group the products are targeted to? and did you use the serum as well,if so did you just add it to your regime or replace some products with it?
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Collette |
Hi Collette....
I've been out of pocket, doing a tradeshow for 3 days, talking to people about Esthers Secret and Naomi.
As to age group, I personally have demo'd the product on skin from 22 years old to 82. All received some benefit, but younger skin reacts differently, of course, than older skin.
The key thing to know about Argireline (one of the active ingredients) is that not only does it help to lessen lines and wrinkles that you already have, it also helps prevent the creation of new lines and wrinkles. The way it does that is by inhibiting the snare complex (as Botox does) and relaxing "overactive" muscles that are responsible for the creation of lines and wrinkles.
So, if you're in your twenties and don't yet see lines and wrinkles, rest assured they are in the making, they just haven't become deep enough to show on top of the skin.  So, it's never too soon to use at least the serum.
I find that the masque gives younger skin a more hydrated, smoother look and gives more mature skin a more hydrated and lifted look. In fact, I've seen a much more dramatic lifted look in mature skin with the masque, but, have also seen a very dramatic look in pore refinement in younger skin.
As to whether the serum is used in addition to or as a replacement for other products, I would definitely say "in addition to" to enhance the benefits of other products.
I personally cleanse and then tone with a mineral product for preparation for the masque and serum. The mineral product works much like the "prep" product that Janson-Beckett has. I then apply the serum mainly to areas that have lines and wrinkles and then wait for 5 to 10 minutes just to allow the serum to do it's work, following with moisturizer. I do find that I don't need to use nearly as much moisturizer as I used to. 
One woman told me last week that she has quit using moisturizer, not needing it in addition to the serum. That might not be true for everyone, but is for some.
JUDY |
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Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:44 pm |
| Gucci wrote: |
Lori
Do you find the serum makes your face greasy??
I've been doing same as you, on one side using the serum and on the other using CE, and I've just incorporated my normal routine. For the past 2 days though the skin on the side of Esthers secret has been more greasy than the other side. Its probably my weird skin!!! I am impressed with the products though, gonna do another face masque tonight! |
Lori and Gucci....
You might want to try using a lighter hand with your moisturizer and be sure that you are waiting 5 to 10 minutes between the serum and any moisturizer. When I use the serum, it disappears right into my skin and I have a slightly tighter or firmer feeling, but never "greasy". Are you applying the moisturizer immediately after the serum?
I have combination skin, so I have always had a problem with my forehead becoming too oily. Because of that, I use only the serum on my forehead. I do use moisturizer on other parts of my face, but not the forehead. 
Any questions any of you have, please do feel free to ask them and I'll answer the best I can.
JUDY |
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Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:17 pm |
| Gucci wrote: |
Lori
Do you find the serum makes your face greasy??
I've been doing same as you, on one side using the serum and on the other using CE, and I've just incorporated my normal routine. For the past 2 days though the skin on the side of Esthers secret has been more greasy than the other side. Its probably my weird skin!!! I am impressed with the products though, gonna do another face masque tonight! |
I found I no longer needed to use moisturizer after using the serum. I suspect it seems to cause too much moisture because the skin is regenerating to create its natural balance. The skin seems to go through a process of being too oily before balancing back to a healthy, younger skin. Everyone's chemistry is just a little bit different. Hope this helps. |
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Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:01 am |
Thanks, yes I havent used any moisturiser since I started using the serum as I dont seem to need one now. I do have oily skin though.
Both Mum and me did the masque again last night, her skin feels absolutely wonderful, I hope when I get to her age my skin feels like that!!! |
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Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:57 am |
I dont need moisturiser any more either.Thanks for keeping us updated with advice Judy.
Lori |
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Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:19 pm |
| I am seriously thinking of purchasing this and am happy to hear everyones great results. My question is do people stop using their other products specifically vit C or any type of exfoliant products be it cleansers or day or night creams. Thanks for any feedback! |
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Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:16 am |
| No, dont stop. use everything. You gotta attack ageing from every angle. I need all the products I can get. This is just my personal opinion. LOL. |
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Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:37 pm |
| Thanks Loopylori. Do you use a vit c product or an exfoliant? |
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Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:11 pm |
| I use cellularskin vit c. I have nearly run out but I will be buying more because I like the way it makes my skin feel. |
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Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:47 pm |
| Gaby wrote: |
| I am seriously thinking of purchasing this and am happy to hear everyones great results. My question is do people stop using their other products specifically vit C or any type of exfoliant products be it cleansers or day or night creams. Thanks for any feedback! |
The Esthers Secret Facelifting System is mean to complement other products you are using rather than replacing them. This will vary, of course, as in the case of moisturizer. I personally would continue using vit. C products as well as phyto products for help with things such as age spots, especially.
JUDY |
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Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:02 pm |
| Thanks Judy. Now I just need to order!!! |
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Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:36 pm |
Sorry I've been "absent" lately, but my highspeed connection has been down for 5 days!
We had a bad storm yesterday and they say that as soon as it quits raining and lightening, they will climb the tower and fix it, but thunder showers are predicted through Saturday. So, I'm limping along on dialup, but while I'm on the 'puter, no one can reach me except by cell phone!  Oh, the challenges of technology.
So, if anyone has e-mailed me and not received an answer, believe me, it's not because I haven't tried! I've bothered the internet service so much, I may have to take them donuts to apologize!
JUDY |
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