DMAE again
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free skin care · Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:40 am

Just wonder if anyone has heard any safety update on DMAE?

I have stopped using it for half n year already... was thinking if I should pick it up again. Laughing

free skin care · Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:52 am

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=28429&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=dmae&start=25

Uno here is a thread from a little while ago, I think there is some useful info

free skin care · Wed May 14, 2008 5:28 pm

In short term, you see the result.

In long term, it may damage your skin.

So IMO, no no and never use it.

free skin care · Fri May 16, 2008 3:05 am

Uno wrote:

Just wonder if anyone has heard any safety update on DMAE?

I have stopped using it for half n year already... was thinking if I should pick it up again. Laughing

I have read some research that disputes the original manufacturer claims in that it has no beneficial effect on the skin. You can make up your own mind but for me, I think there are far better products available.

free skin care · Fri May 16, 2008 3:43 am

bushy wrote:

Uno wrote:

Just wonder if anyone has heard any safety update on DMAE?

I have stopped using it for half n year already... was thinking if I should pick it up again. Laughing

I have read some research that disputes the original manufacturer claims in that it has no beneficial effect on the skin. You can make up your own mind but for me, I think there are far better products available.

Hi bushy,
will you share with us the products you think are better. Thanks Lou

free skin care · Fri May 16, 2008 4:59 am

senesce wrote:

In short term, you see the result.

In long term, it may damage your skin.

So IMO, no no and never use it.

Hello, senesce.

I have read your posts and would love to hear what skin care products you use.

Do you have any recommendations?

TIA. Smile

free skin care · Sat May 17, 2008 12:53 am

Loumomofthree wrote:

Hi bushy,
will you share with us the products you think are better. Thanks Lou

If you let me know why you specifically wanted to use dmae or what benefits you are trying to achieve, then I may be able to suggest some alternatives.

free skin care · Sat May 17, 2008 12:58 am

senesce wrote:

In short term, you see the result.

In long term, it may damage your skin.

So IMO, no no and never use it.

One study I read theorized the plumping effect was due to the cells swelling with water before they died.

free skin care · Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:15 am

edenfield wrote:

senesce wrote:

In short term, you see the result.

In long term, it may damage your skin.

So IMO, no no and never use it.

One study I read theorized the plumping effect was due to the cells swelling with water before they died.

yes, this i read, too, and it concerns me as well...

but - does it need a special (over-)dose to make the cell die?
or will the cell die by any contact of dmae?

free skin care · Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:04 pm

[quote="racheli
but - does it need a special (over-)dose to make the cell die?
or will the cell die by any contact of dmae?[/quote]

The studies I've read have indicated that cell destruction occurred with DMAE at 3% or higher.. These studies were performed on animal skin, and human skin recently excised during surgeries.

In short, the DMAE penetrated the layers of skin, reaches and penetrates the cells, the cells swell and eventually rupture and die.

This is why the folks who use these creams experience a fairly immediate plumping + tightening, but it is always temporary. And so this cycle continues, with each and every application. The real problem will not be apparent until the aging process can't keep up with producing enough cells to replace the ones that have died. That is when the proverbial s-it will hit the fan, and the face will sag irreparably.

You can read much more on the thread Alley recommended above.

I would just like to really say to everyone to make sure you thoroughly research every single thing you put on your skin.. So much of it is absorbed into the cells and bloodstream, and just because a manufacturer says it's wonderful, doesn't mean it's so.

free skin care · Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:03 pm

edenfield wrote:

senesce wrote:

In short term, you see the result.

In long term, it may damage your skin.

So IMO, no no and never use it.

One study I read theorized the plumping effect was due to the cells swelling with water before they died.

I also read this in my Biology course book. Our prof gave us a very long speech about the danger of using it.

free skin care · Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:05 pm

Kassy_A wrote:

The studies I've read have indicated that cell destruction occurred with DMAE at 3% or higher.. These studies were performed on animal skin, and human skin recently excised during surgeries.

In short, the DMAE penetrated the layers of skin, reaches and penetrates the cells, the cells swell and eventually rupture and die.

This is why the folks who use these creams experience a fairly immediate plumping + tightening, but it is always temporary. And so this cycle continues, with each and every application. The real problem will not be apparent until the aging process can't keep up with producing enough cells to replace the ones that have died. That is when the proverbial s-it will hit the fan, and the face will sag irreparably.

You can read much more on the thread Alley recommended above.

I would just like to really say to everyone to make sure you thoroughly research every single thing you put on your skin.. So much of it is absorbed into the cells and bloodstream, and just because a manufacturer says it's wonderful, doesn't mean it's so.

thanks for your reply, kassy..i agree with you..
i found it rather shocking too, that obviously manufacturers are putting (new) stuff into mixtures, which they dont have really information on..or - that they obviously care so little about the long-term side effects...

at least, when buying something i put onto my face, i would have trusted, not to kill my skin with it..!

free skin care · Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:36 pm

According to the Daniel Yarosh book, DMAE is supposed to be a neurotransmitter and stimulates the nerve endings in the cells so that they contract and cause a mini facelift. But he goes on to say that in many cases it is mixed with a muscle relaxant which does not make sense as they would be working opposite to each other. He does not have any negative comments other than there is no reliable research that indicates DMAE works.

free skin care · Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:38 am

DMAE is not a neurotransmitter itself, but it is a precusor for Acetylcholine

free skin care · Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:19 am

edenfield wrote:

DMAE is not a neurotransmitter itself, but it is a precusor for Acetylcholine

Not quite correct. It is claimed that it stimulates nerve cells to release acetylcholine and Johnson & Johnson who market DMAE claim it is a neurotransmitter which supposedly alters nerve sensations. A neurometer has been used to test its claims.

free skin care · Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:04 pm

Lots of interesting information on skincare can be found here, including a good explanation of what DMAE does to the cells;

http://www.truthinskincare.com/2008/01/pay-attention-truth-behind-trends-dmae_31.html

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