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Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:59 pm  |
What is the difference in these eyeliners? Why would you want one type over the other? I've always just used pencils but I've been thinking about getting a liquid eyeliner and I'm just asking myself why I want it. What do you think looks better and is easier to apply?
Also, as far as colors do you think browns look best on most people or black? I have light brown hair and light olive skin with dark green eyes. I was thinking about getting the black liquid eyeliner but wonder if it would look too harsh compared to a softer brown/black. |
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Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:16 pm |
I've been wearing eyeliners for as long as I can remember (my first makeup item!) I hardly ever leave home without my eyes lined.
I have oily skin so pencil and powders are a no-no, they don't last at all - although powders - when used wet will last a bit longer than pencils or if used dry.
I like liquid, too, but liquid liners can look very dramatic because of the bold lines they create. I'm not sure what you mean by cream, but I am in love with gel liners - you can wear them soft and smudged and look penciled or strong and bold and look liquid-lined. My favourite is MAC's Fluidline - it stays put all day and removes easily, and and doesn't dry as quickly as BB's Longwear Gels (which I also like but not as much as Fluidline) so if you make a mistake you can easily wipe it off.
As for colour, my staples are Dipdown (MAC) or Chocolate Ink (BB) for rich chocolate, and Black Ink (BB) or Blacktrack (MAC) for true black. For everyday I mostly use the chocolate. Black is mostly for evening or if I'm wearing blue or silver e/s. I think a deep brown like these chocolates I have flatters most people.
You can experiment with other colours that are available, I suspect a deep purple gel liner will make your green eyes stand out. MAC has a larger colour selection than BB you might want to play around with the colours the next time you are at then MAC store. HTH some! |
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Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:11 pm |
| i love creme eyliners. I have given up my pencils and liquid. I find that there s so much control with creme eyliners and you can change the look easily, by smudging or just have a clean look. I love the smashbox caviar. I use a fine brush most of the time, and a thicker brush for more smokey. i think it must be the same idea as the gel eyliner |
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Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:39 pm |
Thanks. The ones I was looking at are Jane Iredale's. They have a cream to powder and a liquid. Although the cream one has Polyethylene in it which is a plastic used to make plastic bottles and plastic bags. I don't know what that would be doing in makeup. Very suspect.
http://janeiredaledirect.com/product_Cream+to+Powder+Eye+Liner_6525.htm
http://janeiredaledirect.com/product_Liquid+Eye+Liner_8299.htm
I think I'll go with the black/brown liquid and see. I do like the idea of the copper color, but I don't see that being useful except for evening or special occasions. That's interesting about the purple, maybe I'll find a good shadow in a dark purple/grey. |
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Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:20 am |
Big fan of liquid eyeliners here. The two I bounce between are Revlon and L'Oreal. I have been using liquid since I was in 15 (35 now). I have mastered the technique lol. I use brown. I used to go with blackest black, but I stopped dyeing my hair and now brown is MUCH better.
I like that it doesn't smudge and I can get a good thin line right at my lashes. |
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Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:31 am |
| I like and need eyeliner but am a real klutz with application. I have come to really like the L'Oreal HIP Cream Eyeliners. They go on easily and last a long time. I also use it for lower, inner rim and it stays put. I haven't had much luck with powders or pencils lasting all day, especially on the inner rim. I'm still trying to find the best brush for the L'Oreal. |
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Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:06 am |
| Oakview wrote: |
| I like and need eyeliner but am a real klutz with application. I have come to really like the L'Oreal HIP Cream Eyeliners. They go on easily and last a long time. I also use it for lower, inner rim and it stays put. I haven't had much luck with powders or pencils lasting all day, especially on the inner rim. I'm still trying to find the best brush for the L'Oreal. |
Oakview, I love the HIP cream liners too, so I've also been trying to find the perfect brush for them. So far my very fave is actually the liner brush that comes in Hard Candy's Brush kit--- the synthetic bristles are very soft so they don't irritate my eye area, and they apply the pigment very smoothly. However, if you don't want to buy the whole hard Candy kit (I think it runs around $30), while I haven't tried it, Alima's #33 looks like a close match and the price is very good.
http://www.alimapure.com/Brushes-C43.aspx |
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Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:15 am |
| Liquid eyeliners last longer without smudging. I tend to stay away from black and dark colours, as they can be too bold (especially on pale complexion). Browns are more subtle ... greens and purples too! (L'Oreal and Almay) |
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Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:40 am |
I got a couple cream and gel liners as MUA swaps recently, and I could NOT figure out how to apply them. But I did a little research and found that using a bent liner brush makes a HUGE difference! I actually blogged about it here if anyone feels like reading my more detailed epiphany on that.  But basically, it's way way way easier to apply with an angled brush like this.
Now that I've figured that out, there's no way I'm going back to regular liners. The ones I've tried are MAC Fluidline and Smashbox's Cream Liner, and both are way gentler and easier to apply than a pencil liner, and much more forgiving than a traditional liquid liner. You can also get a more versatile look (as others have mentioned), by smudging or wearing in a bold line. I love new makeup discoveries -- I'm a cream or gel only eyeliner girl now!
And I also use the angled brush to apply some shadows close to the lash line, on top of my cream shadow, to transform the color. The liner works as a sort of base so the shadow adheres better, and you can get funkier color looks this way without having to buy an array of funky liners. |
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32, fair hair/eyes/skin, always a mix of dry/oily/sensitive/acne/clogged pores. But I keep getting compliments on my skin, so something must be working! Beauty blog at http://heliotro.pe; online dating coaching at http://theheartographer.com |
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Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:58 am |
| Interesting, ginnielizz, I'll have to try that. I just learned how to tightline with Laura Mercier's cake eyeliner. I'm using the brown one. It's surprisingly easy and I like the subtlety of the look. |
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Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:24 pm |
See, and you're still teaching me -- what does "tightline" mean? Do you just mean drawing a tight fine line?  I'm new to this terminology! |
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32, fair hair/eyes/skin, always a mix of dry/oily/sensitive/acne/clogged pores. But I keep getting compliments on my skin, so something must be working! Beauty blog at http://heliotro.pe; online dating coaching at http://theheartographer.com |
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Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:34 pm |
Manslayerliz,
Thanks for the brush tip. I will check it out. |
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Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:12 pm |
| ginnielizz wrote: |
| See, and you're still teaching me -- what does "tightline" mean? Do you just mean drawing a tight fine line? I'm new to this terminology! |
I'm not flitcraft but I love tightlining as well. I also use the Laura Mercier cake liner and brush. Tightlining is the technique of lining the inner rim of your upper eyelid. You just pull your eyelid up with your finger then take a thin flat brush (Laura Mercier's is perfect for this), use the cake liner wet, and kind of "stamp" the liner across the inner rim of your upper lid. This gives your eyes definition and makes your lashes look fuller but doesn't look like obvious eyeliner. Another plus for ladies like me who don't have a lot of eyelid showing (hooded eyes) is that there's more room for the eyeshadow to be seen since the liner is not taking up as much room as it would if you lined it the traditional way. I think some people use Fluidlines to tightline but I haven't tried that (yet ).
Anyway, that's what I know about tightlining but flitcraft, please chime in with any additional tips you might have. |
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32 years old, combination skin, working on lots of age-related changes (fine lines, dull skin, hyperpigmentation) since I hit the big 3-0. Loving the 302 line. |
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Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:25 am |
| Trish McEvoy has a great product that I use when tight lining my eyeliner. It is called finish line. You add a drop to any powder shadow or eyeliner. It turns the powder into a smudge proof liner. I usually put it on a flat liner brush instead of the eyeshadow itself. it is easy to control both the consistency and the intensity of the liner. A bottle lasts a looong time. |
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Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:44 am |
I've come to prefer pencils and powders because I don't like the ultra well-defined harsh look; instead I tend more toward the smudgey. I tried MAC fluidline but hated the thick consistency, no matter which brush I tried.
When using an eye pencil, the texture truly matters. I love MAC Teddy eye kohl [have it in both brown and black]. You can go as thin or thick as you like and it smudges easily but stays put. To change it up a bit, I like to dip my tiny sable watercolor brush [I'll never paint with it, since I like bigger brushes] into eyeshadow, then use that for an eyeliner. I'll use a lighter shade in the inner corner of my eyes to open them up, then finish with a darker shade on the outer 2/3s of the upper and lower lash line. Some days I'll just apply a neutral based from lashline to brown and finish off with an eyeliner and mascara. |
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44 – combo/oily skin with a tendency towards clogged pores. Thanks to EDS, tweaked my skincare routine and normalized skin… no more breakouts. PSF, silk powder, Janson Beckett, Cellbone, NIA24 are staples. |
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Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:40 am |
I can't improve on mamawalnut's excellent description of tightlining. What you are doing is "printing" a line across the very lashline itself. I've also done this with a pointed fine brush by making a tight dotted line across the lashline, but I much prefer the Laura Mercier brush and the "stamping" method. It sounds scary at first, but it really is easy enough for even a makeup klutz like me to do.
The Laura Mercier cake eyeliner is really nice. It brought back memories of cakeliner of my youth, but it's truly much better than that. Just add a drop of water (or even better, saline solution) and use the brush to stir up your color. The consistency of heavy cream is about right. Really lovely. |
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Wed May 21, 2008 7:43 am |
Hi, I am so happy I happened across your posts. I always line the inside rim of my top and bottom lashes. It's a problem finding a liner that goes on well and stays. I used to use a $1.00 Wet 'n Wild pencil but, they must have changed their formula in the past year or so. It's NOT the same.  I guess I'll try one suggested here.
BTW, I never knew it was called tightlining.
Thank you so much! |
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65 Caucasion, history of acne, sagging, some wrinkling, rough texture. Using Dermawand, AALS, Microderm Machine,Copper Peptides |
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Wed May 21, 2008 8:25 am |
| For me, silver grey is better if liquid. I like to use purple if pencil. Black is too strong for me. |
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Wed May 21, 2008 4:39 pm |
| I like using pencil and I loved the Amyherst color from Estee Lauder, it was a deep purple color and it goes great with my dark brown eyes. |
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Wed May 21, 2008 4:58 pm |
| I also use L'oreal Hip creme eyeliner. The creme just seems to be easier to use. I've tried Smashbox creme and Clinique creme eyeliner,but I find the L'oreal to be longer wearing.I apply it with a no.9 brush from Smashbox. |
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Wed May 21, 2008 5:35 pm |
I normally don't wear make up but I have to wear a whole lot of make up for the stage (I dance). I have a pencil eye liner and a liquid eye liner. I first use the pencil eye liner. I line the inner rim of the eye as well, I have to- it's essential to the look. Then I use the liquid eye liner just on the top part to make it more intense.
My pencil liner is physician's formula micro kohl in ultra black. It doesn't need to be sharpened- I just twist it to push up the kohl. The liquid eye liner is revlon colorstay in blackest black. |
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Wed May 21, 2008 6:14 pm |
i love liquid on my top lids and then pencil on the inside of the rims. You must give the L'oreal liquid eye liner a try. It's soo sooo easy to apply. I'm not sure of the exact name but the tube is a goldish colour.
this is my HG eye liner (has been for 4 years). |
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Thu May 22, 2008 8:04 am |
| i love liquid but i also use a pencil,but the liquid eyeline last longer that the pencil. |
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Thu May 22, 2008 12:59 pm |
| Pencil is easier to use if you are a starter, but it fades away more easily too. Liquid needs skills to apply, they stay on longer, but liquid may be not as natural as pencil. |
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Thu May 22, 2008 1:02 pm |
I switch around too, between pencil and liquid. Now I want to try the Hip brand cream formula.
I want my eyes to have the focus,but dont want to be overdone.
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