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Anastasia111
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Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:45 pm  |
Hello everyone
I'm new to this forum and my name is Anastasia. Ive been using Retin-a for about a year and four months. I love the results, my skin is smooth and it has been able to control my acne and blackheads beautifully! But lately i have been noticing some broken capillaries on my cheeks and around my nose. Is this from the Retin-A? I didnt have them 2 months ago. I use 0.1% and .04% every night alternating. I am only 21 years old and i don't wanna have broken capillaries all over my face by the time i am 25! Will they go away? Please, i am very sad, what should i do?? Thank you... and sorry for the long post  |
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Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:56 pm |
They can be from the Retin A. I would think if you have used Retin A that long, you would not just be developing broken caps now, though. Usually the broken caps don't go away. You can get them treated at your derms office. (I have them from using Retin A, as well, but I am a lot older than you!)
ETA: Have you done anything different in your skin care routine, used any new products, etc? |
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Anastasia111
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Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:03 pm |
| No.. The only thing that i can think of is that i took a hot wash cloth and put it on my face several times to clean my pores out. I also took a small two week break off retin-a and tried proactiv. Other than that no. Do you still use Retin-A? and if i get them removed will they come back? |
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Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:15 am |
You know it could be the hot wash cloth. I remember reading somewhere that applying hot cloths to the face was a major "No No" in a magazine somewhere and that the skin didn't like the extremes. It also said about hot showers being very unhealthy for the body's skin and really went against the argument of ice cold water (which is supposed to be able to close the pores).
Proactive is also very hit and miss for many people so it could be that it was a little too challenging the change in ingredients and also the extreme temperature. I hope your skin recovers (I'm sure it will).
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Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:19 am |
I used to have extremely bad broken caps all over my face and had them treated successfully with IPL by a dermatologist.
I asked the doctor what causes them and he told me that the condition is mainly hereditary. (My father has them all over his face, but my mother does not). He said they are not caused by the sun, hot water, or anything else. Anyway, this is just one doctor's opinion, so just thought I'd share. BTW, I also use Retin-A and do tend to scrub and rub my skin to within an inch of it's poor life - but I don't think my broken caps have got any worse. I am definitely prone to them - but, in my case, Retin-A has so improved my skin that I would be very loath to give it up. |
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Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:01 am |
Anastasia, I do still use the Retin A cream. My nurse told me that you can get them treated, but continued use of Retin A will bring them back if you are prone to them.
I also think the hot wash cloth could have contributed to yours, especially as you have been using the Retin A for so long before you developed any broken caps.
Keliu's doctor definitely could be correct, it could just be hereditary, but I never had any until I used Retin A, so I would think that if one is prone to broken caps, certain things will bring them on, like the hot water washcloth, Retin A, etc.
You just need to weigh the benefits of Retin A, and if the broken caps are a huge deal to you or not to see if you want to continue using it. It is the best "anti-aging" cream we have right now, and you are at a great age to be preventive with aging! |
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Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:54 am |
Here is some interesting info on the causes of broken caps:
Primary causes of broken capillaries:
. increasing age;
. rosacea;
. hereditary;
. hormonal fluctuations (puberty, pregnancy, menopause);
. pregnancy (increase in the amount of blood in the body, causing vein enlargement);
. obesity;
. leg injury — including prolonged standing;
fluctuations in temperature;
. UVA sun damage.
Recommended Treatments for Broken Capillaries:
Face
. A Serum used in Broken Capillary Treatment or Gernetic Veinulo Special Broken Capillary Treatment and Vasco Cream.
. Daily use of a True Broad Spectrum Sunscreen used in Broken Capillary Treatment.
. Retinol.
. Jan Marini TGF Products with Vascular Epithelial Growth Factor (VEGF).
. Avoidance of harsh facial scrubs, such as those containing ground walnut or apricot seeds.
http://www.treatment-skincare.com/August-2006/Broken-Capillaries.html
Note that in the cures list - Retinol is recommended! So, I think that's good news for all of us. |
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Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:03 am |
On the same website that I just listed, on another page it states:
Along with ascorbic acid, ferulic acid is now an integral part of broken capillary treatment protocols, hyperpigmentation treatment, provision of maximum possible protection against premature aging (particularly in individuals with prohibitive allergies to chemical sunscreens) and restoring/developing skin firmness, colour and tone to optimal levels.
So a Vitamin C serum that incorporates Ferulic Acid is obviously the way to go. |
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Anastasia111
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Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:58 pm |
I guess im gonna cross my fingers and hope they go away and i dont get any more. Maybe ill try using it every other night instead of every night. The only thing i couldnt figure out is that my skin is very used to it and has been. I actually never had very peely skin or anything. Thats why i didnt think they were from retin-a because after over a year of continued use, im just getting them. Anyways THANK YOU ALL very much. You guys replied really fast! Oh and if you get a chance and see this again.. when in the course of your Retin-A use did you all get broken caps, and did you get any more after using it for years? Thanks again!!  |
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Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:48 pm |
| Anastasia111 wrote: |
| I guess im gonna cross my fingers and hope they go away and i dont get any more. Maybe ill try using it every other night instead of every night. The only thing i couldnt figure out is that my skin is very used to it and has been. I actually never had very peely skin or anything. Thats why i didnt think they were from retin-a because after over a year of continued use, im just getting them. Anyways THANK YOU ALL very much. You guys replied really fast! Oh and if you get a chance and see this again.. when in the course of your Retin-A use did you all get broken caps, and did you get any more after using it for years? Thanks again!! |
That is exactly why I questioned if yours were from Retin A. You have been using it so long before you even got any. My broken caps popped up within 1-2 months of using Retin A nightly. |
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Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:48 pm |
| I am very prone to broken (dilated capillaries) and I also use a retinoid. In my case, they are caused by sun exposure. Retin A can cause more sensitivity to the sun because it thins the outer layers of the skin. When I first started using retinoids, I developed more broken caps because I was not using a really good sunscreen. I have not developed any new dilated caps since I began using a European sunscreen with high UVA protection. What sunscreen are you using? |
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My HG products are Bioderma Photoderma MAX AR sunscreen, tazorac cream and Skinceuticals C+E Ferulic serum. |
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Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:03 pm |
| I also think it could be sun damage. Sun damage is cumulative, so it makes sense that it doesn't show up immediately. Make sure you're using a good sunscreen, and maybe use the retinoids less often. Niacinamide is supposed to counteract the thinning of the skin that retinoids cause, so that is also something to consider. |
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24 yrs old. favorite sunscreen right now: Burnout [now 35] |
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Anastasia111
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Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:21 pm |
| i use SHISEIDO Ultimate Sun Protection Lotion SPF 55 PA+++. Its pretty expensive and i also generally try to stay out of the sun. But when i first started using the Retin-A i jogged at the park the whole summer and used cheap sunscreen which wore off almost immediately. But this year i went out and bought this and haven't really developed a tan this year. This also seems to be the only sunblock i can use on my face without breaking out. |
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Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:19 am |
| Brimmed hats are a good addition to any sunscreen for protection in the middle of the day, espcially if you are using a photo-sensitizer like a retinoid. |
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Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:34 am |
| I think it is safe but can be not met the sunshine, So must do good of sun defense |
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Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:35 am |
| When you use Retin-a, a uper spf 30 is needed and best of the safer sunblock and not the chemistry sunblock |
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Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:47 am |
| rainbowcheng wrote: |
| When you use Retin-a, a uper spf 30 is needed and best of the safer sunblock and not the chemistry sunblock |
it does not matter in fact what sunscreen you use as long as it is effective. Chemical or physical one is rather a personal preference. |
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Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:06 pm |
What do you mean by chemistry sunblock? This is interesting to me because I'm just starting tretinoin, and I'm going to use Neutrogena spf 15, and I'm wondering now if I need to go buy something stronger. I really don't spend too much time in the sun, and since Autumn is here and it gets cold, I will hardly be outside.
Can you get broken capillaries from extracting black heads, etc? I've had a bad habit of squeezing in the past. tsk tsk! |
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