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Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:44 pm |
Has anyone used Leaf & Rusher Tx Eyes DNA Resolve?
Having read the goodies that are in this eye formula I am considering buying it but would love to hear any feedback?
I am mid 30's and am looking for a product to soften or lessen existing eye lines and to help avoid any future ones... |
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Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:33 pm |
It's good but I like Leaf & Rusher's Active Serum more and I am able to use it all around my eye area. It's the product that's made the most difference in my fine wrinkles. It's active ingredients are 2% retinol and 2% ester C. You still need a moisturizer if your eye area is dry and the L&R one is good. |
_________________ 42yo, natural strawberry blonde so fair skin, blue-eyed, and dry skin |
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Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:01 pm |
Hi lunarmm, Thanks for the reply. I ended up purchasing a different eye cream last week but I am still very keen to look at the leaf and rusher products in my search for the right product. And perhaps I can use it in conjunction with the eye cream I bought (as the moisturiser)
Am I able to use the leaf and rusher active serum on the face as well as the eye area? (I do have some mild frownies) and I imagine having retinol in it (which I have not used before) I would need to gradually build up to using it regularly?
Thanks so much for your help |
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Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:06 pm |
sal-star wrote: |
Am I able to use the leaf and rusher active serum on the face as well as the eye area? (I do have some mild frownies) and I imagine having retinol in it (which I have not used before) I would need to gradually build up to using it regularly? |
Hi sal-star,
Yes, the Leaf & Rusher Active Serum is meant for the whole face. I just meant I am able to tolerate it around the eye area as well and it has helped the most to diminish my "crow's feet", ll lines, and forehead creases.
The regular Active Serum is 2% retinol and 2% ester C. The one for sensitive skin is 1% retinol and 1% ester C.
I find the regular Active Serum very gentle and, in my opinion, you should be fine with it unless you have extremely sensitive skin.
Just do follow the directions as the protocol helps your skin build up a tolerance for the actives.
Fromwww.leafandrusher.com/ProductDetail.cfm?Itemid=40
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To ensure maximum synergy with the skin, increase usage as follows:
Week 1: Use every other evening
Week 2: Use every evening
Week 3: Use morning and evening
*Pump a dime-sized amount into the hand then smooth on cleansed and toned face, neck, and décolleté. Active Serum may be used around the eye area, but avoid direct eye contact. |
Fromwww.leafandrusher.com/advice.cfm
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Q-I have been using the Leaf & Rusher® products for a week and I noticed a few pimples have popped up. Should I be concerned and should I change how I use the products?
A-Retinol is active on the skin and can unfortunately cause minor acne outbreaks in the first few weeks of usage. If such an outbreak occurs, discontinue usage of the Active Serum/Active Serum for Sensitive Skin in the immediate area of the pimple for the short time the eruption is visible and introduce a scrub cloth during your wash in order to increase exfoliation of the area of conjested/erupting pores. After approximately one week without treatment, slowly begin using Serum and Tx™ Formula over site by using twice a week the first week, building up one day per week gradually thereafter. |
Hope this helps |
_________________ 42yo, natural strawberry blonde so fair skin, blue-eyed, and dry skin |
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:31 am |
Thank you so much, fantastic descriptions of how to use the serum and I can't wait to try it
(next order...lol, I have one mid-air)
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havana8
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:27 pm |
I may be the only one but I didn't realize that Leaf & Rusher's DNA Tx Line uses Remergent's DNA repair ingredient technology, or at least it sounds as if it is the same since they mention dimericine invented by Dr. Daniel Yarosh...
FOR THE EYES ONLY > Beverly Hills plastic surgeon and Leaf & Rusher developer Norman Leaf, MD, says, "The DNA Tx line is the result of research done on a new drug called dimericine, which has been found to reduce skin cancer by 65 percent."
WHAT IT DOES > Leaf & Rusher Tx Eyes repairs the UV-induced destructive links between the two strands of DNA with an enzyme sourced from blue-green algae, "which floats on the ocean all day, absorbing sunlight without getting injured," explains Dr. Leaf.
WHAT'S IN IT > This light-activated eye-area protection contains a unique DNA-protecting enzyme that is actually "turned-on" by the same sunlight that creates the DNA injury.
– New Beauty Magazine, digital edition, page 51
http://www.newbeauty.com/digital-editions/
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/dnaresolve-m_709_711.htm
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havana8
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:56 pm |
Yes, definitely the Remergent DNA repair enzymes...
Leaf & Rusher website wrote: |
We're Leaf & Rusher®, Beverly Hills' first medical skin care clinic, and our proprietary blend of enzymes called photosomes (blue-green algae) and ultrasomes (milk-based flora) work within the very nucleus of your skin's cells to boost your body's ability to speed up its natural skin repair process. You might just call it a miracle. We call it 24-hour repair, and we invite you to experience the difference a day can make with serious skin care pure and simple.
• Encourage healthy DNA production
• Accelerate the skin's natural repair process
• Prevent premature aging
We at Leaf & Rusher® like to think of our 24-hour repair as a "morning after pill" for your skin. In fact, it works 45% better than the typical repair agents to relieve the signs of fatigue, restore radiance, improve firmness and promote softness. It's how Hollywood keeps up appearances without all of the upkeep.
http://www.leafandrusher.com/repair.cfm
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:54 pm |
Very interesting, Havana. Thanks for sharing that. The only other product I knew of using the Remergent DNA technology was ZO Daily Power Defense. |
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:06 pm |
rileygirl wrote: |
Very interesting, Havana. Thanks for sharing that. The only other product I knew of using the Remergent DNA technology was ZO Daily Power Defense. |
I really wish that we had a way to compare the concentrations in the ZO, Remergent, and L&T formulations. Dr. Obagi insists on having the highest level of active available, so I am willing to bet that they are the highest.
However, now that Lauder purchased Remergent, their concentration will probably drop. |
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havana8
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:12 pm |
Leaf & Rusher website wrote: |
...our proprietary blend of enzymes called photosomes (blue-green algae) and ultrasomes (milk-based flora) |
what do you make of the wording, "our proprietary blend"? |
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:19 pm |
rileygirl wrote: |
The only other product I knew of using the Remergent DNA technology was ZO Daily Power Defense. |
DS Laboratories makes use of nanosomes in their Viterol A product, so I guess Viterol A is somehow a "cousin" of these brands... |
_________________ Female, 40, Norway. Normal/dry skin, starting to see signs of aging. Staples: Glycolic acid cleanser, SkinCeuticals Phloretin CF, Revaleskin, NIA24. |
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havana8
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:25 pm |
I could be wrong, but I've always thought that nanosomes and liposomes were not necessarily an ingredient but more the delivery vehicles used to carry and protect lipophilic and/or organic agents with liposomes being larger in size. |
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:36 pm |
havana8 wrote: |
I could be wrong, but I've always thought that nanosomes and liposomes were the delivery vehicles used to carry and protect lipophilic and/or organic agents with liposomes being larger in size. |
I believe you are correct, havana. I do remember though that there was some information in another thread on EDS that Viterol A was based on some of the same principles as Remergent, but I am not sure in what way.
Hopefully bushy can explain the resemblance between the two brands. |
_________________ Female, 40, Norway. Normal/dry skin, starting to see signs of aging. Staples: Glycolic acid cleanser, SkinCeuticals Phloretin CF, Revaleskin, NIA24. |
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:12 pm |
Septembergirl wrote: |
havana8 wrote: |
I could be wrong, but I've always thought that nanosomes and liposomes were the delivery vehicles used to carry and protect lipophilic and/or organic agents with liposomes being larger in size. |
I believe you are correct, havana. I do remember though that there was some information in another thread on EDS that Viterol A was based on some of the same principles as Remergent, but I am not sure in what way.
Hopefully bushy can explain the resemblance between the two brands. |
I'm pretty sure Bushy was commenting on the delivery systems being similar...the nanosomes increase deliverability to deeper layers. |
_________________ No longer answering PM's due to numerous weird messages. |
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:43 pm |
bethany wrote: |
Septembergirl wrote: |
havana8 wrote: |
I could be wrong, but I've always thought that nanosomes and liposomes were the delivery vehicles used to carry and protect lipophilic and/or organic agents with liposomes being larger in size. |
I believe you are correct, havana. I do remember though that there was some information in another thread on EDS that Viterol A was based on some of the same principles as Remergent, but I am not sure in what way.
Hopefully bushy can explain the resemblance between the two brands. |
I'm pretty sure Bushy was commenting on the delivery systems being similar...the nanosomes increase deliverability to deeper layers. |
That is correct, bethany. I just found bushy's post.
I still don't fully understand these -somes. As far as I understand, ultrasomes and roxisomes that are found in both Remergent and Leaf & Rusher TX also have to do with the delivery system more than being actual ingredients. In the Remergent DNA insert they are described as liposomes.
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Ultrasomes. Liposomes engineered to carry an extract from a marine microbe, intensifying the skin's ability to repair sun-inflicted DNA damage, speeding recovery reaction, and reducing the appearance of post-sunburn peeling.
Roxisomes. Liposomes encapsulating the first repair enzyme, isolated from a tiny mustard plant to, to protect the cell's genetic material from free radical damage...
Source: Insert, Remergent DNA Formula |
_________________ Female, 40, Norway. Normal/dry skin, starting to see signs of aging. Staples: Glycolic acid cleanser, SkinCeuticals Phloretin CF, Revaleskin, NIA24. |
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:01 am |
Kinerase makes use of the roxisome and photosome technology in their products, as well.
http://www.dermadoctor.com/product_Kinerase-Ultimate-Day-Moisturizer_2123.html
I am not sure how the nanosome technology in Viterol A/DS Laboratories compares to the photosomes/roxisomes in Remergent, ZO SkinHealth, Leaf & Rusher TX, Kinerase etc, but to me it seems like all these brands utilize high tech delivery systems to transport the ingredients into the skin. The actual ingredients seem to vary quite a lot from brand to brand. From my understanding, it's the liposome delivery system that makes these products unique and powerful, not the ingredients alone.
I do wonder though if we can be sure that the nanosome delivery system in the DS Laboratories/Viterol A has got the same benefits as the proven effective roxisomes, photosomes etc from the Remergent company (as mentioned by bushy in another thread). I hope bushy will chime in and shed some light on this. |
_________________ Female, 40, Norway. Normal/dry skin, starting to see signs of aging. Staples: Glycolic acid cleanser, SkinCeuticals Phloretin CF, Revaleskin, NIA24. |
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Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:03 am |
I think the terms nanosomes and liposomes are sort of trade names to distinguish between different types of delivery systems. There is plenty of info on the web but it seems to be quite technical and would need more time than I have to sit down and read it all to gain a full understanding. |
_________________ Skin: Over 60, ex combination now sensitive, Cellcosmet |
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Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:49 pm |
Anybody having the complete ingr. list f. the Tx Eyes DNA Resolve ??? Thanks. |
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:00 am |
These are the ingredients as posted on the skincare website:
Ingredients:
Water, Squalane, Santalum Album (Sandalwood) Wood Extract, Phellodendron Amurense (Amur Corktree) Bark Extract, Hordeum Distichon (Barley) Extract, Ceteary Methicone, Dimethicone, Linoleic Acid, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Sterols, Phospholipids, Butylene Glycol, Glucosamine HCL, Algae Extract, Yeast Extract, Urea, Propylene Glycol, Sodium Citrate, Citrus Medica, Liminum (Lemon) Fruit Extract, And Cucumis Sativus (Cucumber) Fruit Extract, Cetearyl Alcohol, PPR12/SMDI Copolymer, Behenyl Alcohol, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Tribehenin, Ceramide 2, PEG-10 Rapeseed Sterol, And Palmitoyl Oligopeptide, Biosaccharide Gum-1, Rosemarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Extract, Lecithin, Sodium Hyaluronate, Plankton Extract, Algae Extract, Artemisia Vulgaris (Mugwort) Extract, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Sea Whip Extract, Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate, Hydrogenated Lecithin, Panthenyl Triacetate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Xanthan Gum, Mica, Titanium Dioxide, Tin Oxide, Sodium Hydroxide, Phenoxyethanol, Benzoic Acid, And Dehydroacetic Acid. |
_________________ Skin: Over 60, ex combination now sensitive, Cellcosmet |
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