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Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:12 am  |
I just picked up the book "Beverly Hills Beauty Secrets" at the library, and the cover says "A Prominent Dermatologist and Plastic Surgeon's Insider Guide to Facial Rejuvenation." It's written by Douglas Hamilton, MD, and Babak Azizzadeh, MD. The book is pretty thorough, but it's easy reading.
One section I thought worth sharing discusses the skin-care products that actually do create change. This is not an all-inclusive list, but I thought it was enlightening on what products they chose to list as examples:
Neostrata - Although there are many hydroxy acid companies, they chose to list Neostrata becuase it was founded and managed by Dr. Eugene Van Scott and Dr. Ruey Yu, who are the world's recognized experts in glycolic acid research.
Revaleskin cream: Chosen because it is the first professional line of anti-aging skin care they are aware of that contains Cofeeberry.
We're all aware that Priori also makes coffeeberry products, but I think Revaleskin is still a higher concentration. My own derm recommends Revaleskin, so I have just started using the night cream.
Tri-Luma: The most widely used prescription bleaching agent in the US.
302 protein drops: Derived from avocado, it has the unique ability to thicken skin, both dermis and epidermis. They prescribe it to help reverse the skin-thinning effects of aging.
In the section on a preventive skin-care regimen, they recommend the following lines:
Neova (copper peptides) for wrinkle prevention.
NIA 24 for people with fair skin who have had sun damage. They noticed a softening of color irregularity and reduction in scaling, precancerous growths.
Antioxidants such as Replenix and Citrix. They are looking at recent developments using Persimmon leaf.
Broad-spectrum sunscreens: Perhaps the most important prevent measure for sun damage and aging. |
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Nadine, age 50, live in VA; half-Asian, slight yellow tone; sensitive, dry/combo skin |
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Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:49 pm |
| This is a very nice overall review of those skin care lines. I'm sure it will help other decide what they want to focus on for their skin. So far, I don't have to worry about lightening my skin. I'm focused on prevention and keeping my skin hydrated. |
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Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:35 pm |
I thought this might help people if they are on the fence about a certain product. I've been reading every bit of the 302 thread myself, but have yet to take the plunge.  |
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Nadine, age 50, live in VA; half-Asian, slight yellow tone; sensitive, dry/combo skin |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:20 am |
| nadjazz wrote: |
I just picked up the book "Beverly Hills Beauty Secrets" at the library, and the cover says "A Prominent Dermatologist and Plastic Surgeon's Insider Guide to Facial Rejuvenation." It's written by Douglas Hamilton, MD, and Babak Azizzadeh, MD. The book is pretty thorough, but it's easy reading.
302 protein drops: Derived from avocado, it has the unique ability to thicken skin, both dermis and epidermis. They prescribe it to help reverse the skin-thinning effects of aging.
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Wow, thanks for posting this Nadjazz. This is the first time I have ever heard of a book recommending 302, or actually ever heard of it being mentioned outside of a forum! How exciting. When was this book published? |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:24 am |
Wow, that is a recent book. This really is exciting. Thank you so much for posting this! |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:47 am |
Nadine, thanks for the overview!!
Do they address that some of the products cannot be used in tandem, like the 302 and the acids? |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:17 am |
The book sounds interesting - and current - that's a plus. it has me intrigued.
Just some random thoughts:
I wonder why no mention of retinoids or Vit C? And then what about the advocates of other anti-aging formulas?
I guess what we're looking at are educated opinions based on scientific evidence. Wouldn't it be interesting to be at a round table discussion of many similar experts and get everyone's opinions and discussion of why.
They also sounded very brand specific and I wonder why? I know some brands can be better - more research, potency, etc but... No mention of Dr. Pickart in the copper peptide arena???? |
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Enjoying dermalogica with my ASG and Pico toner ** Disclosure: I was a participant without remuneration in promotional videos for Ageless Secret Gold and the Neurotris Pico Emmy event. |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:18 am |
My thoughts are that there are other brands that can and do remarkble things to change the face. The two that I can think of are Karen Herzog and Jan Marini. Their products are excellent. I'm sure there are some others that aren't mentioned.
Aside from that, this is an interesting post and thank you, Nadjazz, for informing us about this book. It's very interesting. |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:32 pm |
| bethany wrote: |
| Do they address that some of the products cannot be used in tandem, like the 302 and the acids? |
No, the book does not go into that level of detail. I would say it’s more of a primer on facial rejuvenation. Keep in mind, they also discuss surgery options, and it’s not a big book, so not a whole lot of it was dedicated to topicals.
| sister sweets wrote: |
I wonder why no mention of retinoids or Vit C? And then what about the advocates of other anti-aging formulas?
I guess what we're looking at are educated opinions based on scientific evidence. Wouldn't it be interesting to be at a round table discussion of many similar experts and get everyone's opinions and discussion of why.
They also sounded very brand specific and I wonder why? I know some brands can be better - more research, potency, etc but... No mention of Dr. Pickart in the copper peptide arena???? |
Actually, the book did mention retinoids, but as I recall, they felt that there are now better products on the market, and retinoids are no longer the “gold” standard. Sorry, I may not be stating exactly what they said, the book was due back today, LOL.
As for Vit C, yes, it was mentioned in the category of antioxidants. they specifically called out a line of vit C products called Citrix, and I’m pretty sure vit C was mentioned elsewhere in the book.
You are right, there was no mention of Dr. Pickart, but didn’t he have some kind of connection with Neova way back when?
As for being brand specific, I want to emphasize that they just listed these as examples, not an all-inclusive list. I gathered that these are products they have found to be effective in their practice, but in no way did they imply that their products were better than others.
As for a roundtable discussion of experts, my own dermatologist hosts a show on blogtalkradio that is starting to get some interesting guests. I’ll post more as I learn some details.
| leeleedeedee wrote: |
My thoughts are that there are other brands that can and do remarkble things to change the face. The two that I can think of are Karen Herzog and Jan Marini. Their products are excellent. I'm sure there are some others that aren't mentioned.
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I totally agree, leeleedeedee, that there are other brands that can bring remarkable change. As I stated in my original post, those were some examples, not an all-inclusive list. The wording in the book stated something like “some examples are…” , so I must emphasize that they did not imply that anything not on their list was ineffective. |
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Nadine, age 50, live in VA; half-Asian, slight yellow tone; sensitive, dry/combo skin |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:42 pm |
| I would love to check out this book. Very interesting! |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:59 pm |
| nadjazz wrote: |
| bethany wrote: |
| Do they address that some of the products cannot be used in tandem, like the 302 and the acids? |
No, the book does not go into that level of detail. I would say it’s more of a primer on facial rejuvenation. Keep in mind, they also discuss surgery options, and it’s not a big book, so not a whole lot of it was dedicated to topicals.
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Crap...I already ran and ordered it. I guess I should have asked if you actually recommended it first!! |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:13 pm |
| bethany wrote: |
| Crap...I already ran and ordered it. I guess I should have asked if you actually recommended it first!! |
Me, too!  |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:31 pm |
Beth and Rileygirl - Okay - cool.
So now we get the scoop from some real experts! Thanks girls. |
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Enjoying dermalogica with my ASG and Pico toner ** Disclosure: I was a participant without remuneration in promotional videos for Ageless Secret Gold and the Neurotris Pico Emmy event. |
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Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:48 pm |
| sister sweets wrote: |
Beth and Rileygirl - Okay - cool.
So now we get the scoop from some real experts! Thanks girls. |
I don't know about that, but I'll be happy to pick it apart!  |
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Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:26 am |
| bethany wrote: |
| sister sweets wrote: |
Beth and Rileygirl - Okay - cool.
So now we get the scoop from some real experts! Thanks girls. |
I don't know about that, but I'll be happy to pick it apart! |
Ditto! |
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Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:11 am |
| bethany wrote: |
| sister sweets wrote: |
Beth and Rileygirl - Okay - cool.
So now we get the scoop from some real experts! Thanks girls. |
I don't know about that, but I'll be happy to pick it apart! |
Look forward to it! |
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Enjoying dermalogica with my ASG and Pico toner ** Disclosure: I was a participant without remuneration in promotional videos for Ageless Secret Gold and the Neurotris Pico Emmy event. |
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Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:05 pm |
Ladies, I'm so sorry! I was just so excited about the products they called out (especially 302), that I wanted to share that section of the book. 
Those of you who did purchase it, I do look forward to your feedback! |
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Nadine, age 50, live in VA; half-Asian, slight yellow tone; sensitive, dry/combo skin |
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Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:44 pm |
| nadjazz wrote: |
Ladies, I'm so sorry! I was just so excited about the products they called out (especially 302), that I wanted to share that section of the book.
Those of you who did purchase it, I do look forward to your feedback! |
Don't feel bad at all, Nadjazz. I am SO glad you posted about this book. If nothing else, I guess I will feel like I have a piece of history with the mentioning of 302 in a book! |
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Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:58 pm |
| OOOH! I have to make some time to go to the store and check it out. I can't wait! |
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Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:23 pm |
| Just got my book today! Looks like a really good book, Nadjazz, so thanks again for bringing this up! |
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Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:15 pm |
rileygirl, I'm so glad you are not disappointed!
I've been using the Revaleskin night cream for less than a week, so too soon to tell. My derm is a big believer in coffeeberry, as he participated in a clinical study that showed it offered strong protection against UVB. Because of its antioxidant power, he also takes it internally. He says its antioxidant power is something like 10 times more than green tea.
My first reaction to the night cream: it made my skin soft, hydrated, and glowing without looking greasy. It plumped up the skin, so large pores became almost non-existent. The main reason I'm trying it is to reduce the redness from my rosacea. I was very surprised to see that it smoothed out the rosacea bumps on my chin. So far, I am impressed.
Still, I can get a similar effect with Dr. Kassy's rosacea cream, posted over in the DIY section of this forum. The night cream (1.7 oz) retails for about $110, but my derm sells it for $80, which is about what it goes for on ebay. I was fortunate that he gave me the first bottle for free. I  my derm. I will post a real review once I finish the bottle.
As for 302, there is a loooong but very informative thread here that's worth a read. I gather it takes a commitment to stay away from other products, which is why I haven't taken the plunge yet. Rileygirl is a frequent contributor to that thread!
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=28855 |
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Nadine, age 50, live in VA; half-Asian, slight yellow tone; sensitive, dry/combo skin |
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:02 am |
| Where do you purchase 302? What's the "magic" ingredient in it? Anyone? |
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:16 am |
| I just got done reading some other posts and am completely intrigued by 302. Is there anywhere online to purchase it? |
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Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:54 am |
| c4ward wrote: |
| Where do you purchase 302? What's the "magic" ingredient in it? Anyone? |
It's an avocado compound known as avocatin or Avogen.
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| I just got done reading some other posts and am completely intrigued by 302. Is there anywhere online to purchase it? |
302 doesn't offer it online but you can work long distance with a 302 esthetician and buy it through them. Boski lists a few contact points in her FAQ thread in Q4 Where to Buy It:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=33409
HTHs!  |
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