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ItsEssential
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:46 pm  |
I have been surfing around this site for awhile and I was truly surprised that no one has posted a review about the 100% Pure line.
100percentpure*com
I have been using OCM with essential oils and was ready to delve into making my own make up when I stumbled upon this site.
I ordered the FRUIT PIGMENTED 3-PC TRY ME KIT for the coffee bean eye cream and the tinted moisturizer. The mascara was just a bonus since I was not holding out much for a fruit based mascara. 
I have been using it for a week and I have to say that all the products are very comparable to the products I have used in the past and being all fruit based I can not find a reason NOT to use these products.
The coffee bean eye cream works as well as if not better than Garnier Nutritioniste Skin Renew Anti-Puff Eye Roller and the tinted moisturizer covers and lasts longer than Aveeno Positively Radiant Tinted Moisturizer and did not leave my face oily.
But it was the mascara that blew me away. It works as well as Fresh Firebird mascara and I have had no eye irritation from it. Who knew?? 
I also ordered the Vanilla Ice Cream Bubble Bath for my 6 yr old and he doesn't fuss about taking a bath now!
Oh, and I almost forgot the lip pencils. I ordered the mauve and it is a great color and very moisturizing; however, it does not have SPF and it doesn't last through much. But I really don't mind reapplying as it is feels good going on and I know it's good for my lips.
I am excited about trying some of the eyeshadows and I might even try a facial cleanser. If it works as well as OCM, I might become a heretic  (mixing oils can be time consuming and messy!) |
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Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:01 pm |
I didnt care for the tinted moisturizer. I found it to be kind to leave a shine which surprised me because my skin was definitely on the normal to dry side when I tried it.
QVC sells this brand and has some items not listed on the 100% pure site. |
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:59 am |
| GirlieGirl wrote: |
I didnt care for the tinted moisturizer. I found it to be kind to leave a shine which surprised me because my skin was definitely on the normal to dry side when I tried it.
QVC sells this brand and has some items not listed on the 100% pure site. |
I agree, GirlieGirl, (BTW, love the name!) it does. I prefer a shine as I think it makes me look "glowing".
If you prefer the matte look, which I don't think tinted moisturizers are for this, I would not recommend this.
They do have a foundation but I have not tried it because I do not like the heavy feel of foundation.
Thank you for the QVC tip, I will have to check it out as their site is rather limiting and does not have much description beyond the ingredients.  |
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:01 am |
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Welcome to EDS, ItsEssential.  There are a few reviews for 100% Pure which you might also enjoy and for which your review will be in good company:
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Thanks for the welcome! and the links!
There is so much info here! I love it! |
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:01 am |
ItsEssential, you seem so incredibly full of knowledge on the 100% Pure line, and comparisons against other products, yet you only have 3 posts on this board. Why haven't you shared information on other products, as well as this one before?
I've got a request for you. Since these products seem to be so special in your opinion, and you have a "Moderator" from the forum allowing you to post such "glowing" reviews despite being so new to the forum....
...Please post the entire ingredients list of each of these 100% Pure products for the members to view. I would be very interested in seeing what type of ingredients are used in the 100% Pure line. Since you are such a big fan of this line, I'm sure you will be excited about sharing this information, and will do so very quickly!
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:25 am |
Here is the ingredients list from one of the products:
The Nectarine Body Cream costs $17, and the ingredients are:
Organic White Tea, Organic Cocoa and Avocado Butters, Organic Cabernet Grapeseed, Blackcurrant, and Rose Hip Seed Oils, Vitamin E (a-tocopherol), Vitamin C (ascorbyl palmitate), Lavender Honey wax, Natural Nectarine Aroma, Extracts of Nectarine, Cherry, Pomegranate, Raspberry, Blackberry, Grapefruit Seed, Natural Food Preservatives derived from salts and cranberries (less than 0.1% sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate)
Can somebody please tell me when "organic" grown and "organic certified" sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate" was created??
This obviously cannot be an "organic certified" product with those ingredients, no matter how small the loading level.
If this is the actual ingredients list copied directly from the packaging, then several errors (intentional?) are being made. First of all, according to the PCPC (Personal Care Products Council) INCI naming regulations... NO raw material is allowed to have the word "organic" associated with it in the official ingredients list. So the first three ingredients are going against "truth in advertising" regulations.
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"Cabernet" in not an approved INCI name.
"Black Current" should use the appropriate INCI name of Ribes Nigrum.
There are a lot of "Lavender" ingredients in the dictionary, but none for "Lavender Honey Wax". Even if it did exist, the correct INCI name in the ingredients list would have to include Lavandula Angustifolia.
"Natural Nectarine Aroma" could not be found in the dictionary. If it is a nectarine FRAGRANCE... then the name must include Prunus Persica Nectarina. Or simply "Fragrance".
Extracts of Nectarine should be Prunus Persica Nectarina Extract.... and so on with the other fruit extracts listed.
There is no need, nor is it approved to say "Natural Food Preservatives Derived From Salts and Cranberries"
And finally less than 0.1% sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate makes this product woefully, and dangerously, underpreserved. The chances that bactierial growth, micro-organisms, molds, yeasts and other very dangerous contaminants are very likely to grow in this product with ease is very high.
If this is the true ingredients listing on the package of this product then it is full of mis-information. The product is just a typical cream, similar to thousands of others on the market today with run of the mill ingredients.
There are far better products on the market than this one, and far safer too with correct preservation.
Be sure to do your research before you fall for any marketing hype of any particular product or company.
Hope this helps,
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ItsEssential
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:43 am |
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ItsEssential, you seem so incredibly full of knowledge on the 100% Pure line, and comparisons against other products, yet you only have 3 posts on this board. Why haven't you shared information on other products, as well as this one before?
I've got a request for you. Since these products seem to be so special in your opinion, and you have a "Moderator" from the forum allowing you to post such "glowing" reviews despite being so new to the forum....
...Please post the entire ingredients list of each of these 100% Pure products for the members to view. I would be very interested in seeing what type of ingredients are used in the 100% Pure line. Since you are such a big fan of this line, I'm sure you will be excited about sharing this information, and will do so very quickly!
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Wow, John, I wasn't expecting to get attacked on this forum for posting an opinion.
As you said yourself, I am new to this forum. This was one of my first post, as everyone including yourself, has to start somewhere.
I joined in November but decided not to post anything until I read a lot on here to get the feel of the forum.
I don't remember any other post being so condescending; however, I have not read any of your other posts so maybe that is just your personality.
I read the links that havana8 provided above and I did not see you attacking them. You should C&P this post and your other one below on those links so that those threads may know your opinion on this product also.
Given the great welcome you have given me, I am not inclined to post here again.
Thank you,
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:51 am |
Hi Jennifer.
This was not a personal attack on you whatsoever.
I am a cosmetic chemists with many, many years in the industry. Our industry is self regulating. Due to that fact, we all have to keep a careful eye out for misrepresentation, which can hurt our industry.
I'm sorry if you felt "attacked" when I went through the ingredients list and pointed out factual errors. By the way, I got that ingredients list from another post on 100% pure, so I have been there and read them.
If you can bring an argument that disproves anything I've written here, please feel free to do so since this is an open discussion forum and we all appreciate the comments and views. I see no reason why you should go away and not post again in an "open discussion" forum such as the one here, do you?
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ItsEssential
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:16 am |
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Hi Jennifer.
This was not a personal attack on you whatsoever.
I am a cosmetic chemists with many, many years in the industry. Our industry is self regulating. Due to that fact, we all have to keep a careful eye out for misrepresentation, which can hurt our industry.
I'm sorry if you felt "attacked" when I went through the ingredients list and pointed out factual errors. By the way, I got that ingredients list from another post on 100% pure, so I have been there and read them.
If you can bring an argument that disproves anything I've written here, please feel free to do so since this is an open discussion forum and we all appreciate the comments and views. I see no reason why you should go away and not post again in an "open discussion" forum such as the one here, do you?
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John,
You said, and I quote, "ItsEssential, you seem so incredibly full of knowledge on the 100% Pure line, and comparisons against other products, yet you only have 3 posts on this board. Why haven't you shared information on other products, as well as this one before?
I've got a request for you"
The use of "YOU seem so incredibly", "YOU only have 3 posts", "Why haven't YOU", and "I've got a request for YOU"
Really not seeing how that is not a personal attack ...
I am not here as an "expert" nor did I claim to be. I am here as a general consumer that found a product that I liked and wanted to share it with others. I was simply comparing them to products I have used in the past, again, AS A GENERAL CONSUMER. I did not compare their ingredients down to each molecule, only how they "wear". I do not have to time to compare each molecule of a product as I have a busy life.
I see that you are developing a new line, so maybe you are somewhat biased in your opinion of other product lines in an attempt to sway consumers?
However, you must remember that we are not all "chemists". I am sure I could be just as condescending while talking about my field of work since you would know nothing about it.
If you are deciding to becoming a businessman and are going to be actually marketing your product, I would assume, to general consumers, you should learn some forum etiquette and realize how simple words can be interpreted in different ways when you are not actually face to face with someone. I have read some of your other posts and they also seem to be written in a very condescending manner that can be off-putting to some. As of right now, I would not buy a product from you.
That said, thank you for your information on this product line.
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:38 am |
Just a few things from on their site and others ... I do research as much as I can as I am not a total idiot.
From 100percentpure*com/about*html:
"Since there are no preservatives, how long do your products last once I open them?
On each product, there is an open jar symbol with a number on it. That number indicates how long you can use the product once it is opened. The #1 reason why our products do not require harsh chemical preservatives is because you need two things for bacterial growth: water and air. Since we never use water in the first place, this eliminates the use of harsh chemical preservatives."
From 100percentpure*com/ingredients*html:
"Grapefruit Seed Extract - One of the most powerful antioxidants. We use grapefruit see as natural preservative. Contains high levels of polygenetic compounds (antioxidants).
From fromnaturewithlove*com/library/preservatives*asp:
Using Preservatives to Extend the Shelf Life of Your Product
Grapefruit Seed Extract
Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) is a citrus seed based anti-microbial used as a preservative in skin care products. GSE is made with the extracts of citrus seeds and pulp. It is blended with vegetable glycerin to make it non-irritating to the skin and mucous membranes when used in formulations. GSE is even safe enough to use as a disinfectant for drinking water when necessary.
... It is said to be anti-microbial, anti-septic, anti-bacterial, astringent and does also have some antioxidant activity.
Use GSE at .5 to 1% to preserve most formulations, or use at 2% to create anti-bacterial creams, salves, rinses and soaps. Please note that adding 2% GSE to your products does not mean that you can market or label the product as an "anti-bacterial" product.
Wear gloves while handling Grapefruit Seed Extract. GSE can be irritating to the skin in its undiluted form.
INCI Nomenclature: Grapefruit (Citrus Grandis) Extract (and) Glycerin
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:59 am |
What IS your line of work Jennifer? You seem to be knowledgable in "marketing". Is that what you do?
Also, when you mention the URL internet listing for 100% pure, why do you write it in some sort of "code"??:
100percentpure*com and 100percentpure*com/ingredients*html
...why not write it out in the internationally known, used, and recognized way to write a URL code??
NOTE: Grapefruit Seed Extract is an extremely POOR preservative. "Insult challenge tests" on many types of cosmetic products using only Grapefruit Seed Extract showed microbial growth within days of starting the test. It has been known for a very long time that Grapefruit Seed Extract is so weak at preservation, that it should hardly be called a preservative. However, that is the ONLY so-called "natural" preservative out there, and that's why many companies that make the all-natural, or "organic", or "veegan" claim use it.
NOTE II: Did you know that "extracts" are portions of a known ingrdients (let's say pomegranate) that are extracted from pomegranate and then sold in usually a water base, or sometimes propylene glycol, or glycerin, or alcohol, or even a combination of the above. Therefore, saying that the products contain NO "water", or a humectant like glycerin which draws water to itself would be false. The products will have water in them, and therefore microbial growth can occur. Even when you touch the product with your finger you are introducing moisture "water", and again that's when microbial growth will occur.
Finally, I am a businessman along with being a cosmetic chemist.
John
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:54 pm |
Hi Jennifer and welcome! I've been using 100% Pure's products for years and I love them. I would especially recommend checking out the Nectarine lotion--- it's the best-smelling lotion I've ever used. I'm very sensitive to strong scents and perfumes, so finding a scented lotion I can actually enjoy is a rare treat for me.
Also, please don't be put off by the ahem, exuberance of some other members here. Some members here actually make and sell their own body care, so you can understand that they don't want to pass up a chance to complain about the competition. However, the majority of people here are very nice and not looking to sell anything, so I hope you will continue to post and participate.^-^ |
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:58 pm |
John, perhaps I can help clear a few things up for you:
As I understand it, new members aren't allowed to post links in the "internationally known, used, and recognized way to write a URL code," so many end up improvising. If you read back to older posts you will see that many of us have done the same thing.
Also, the correct spelling is "vegan," not "veegan." As a successful businessman you surely know that it can be insulting when you don't care enough about your client's preferences to spell them correctly. |
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:00 pm |
Unbelievable response from "NOTCH". Insulting others does not bode well for your business acumen.
Like Jennifer, I am a forum lurker. I do not post often. However, that should not preclude me from posting, if I want to post a review on a product. I mean, this is the Product Review forum. Anecdotal experience is quite often expressed on this forum. Do you analyze and terrorize all of those posters, "NOTCH"? Additionally, new forum posters are not allowed to post links on the EDS Forums, until they have "X" number of postings. So again, the insults you toss reflect more on your ignorance than anything. The language you chose in regards to the URL was incredibly rude.
Jennifer, like you, I have found some of the 100% Pure line to be quite delightful |
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:21 pm |
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My products have been marketed and sold for years and are well received as being very functional and efficacious while being very low priced as well.
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John,
I do have a question, though this may not be the appropriate thread. Nevertheless, I will ask it here. Being a costmetic chemist, why do you feel it is that all products don't work for everyone? I have been thinking about this lately, and I know I have said it myself that "everyone is different". Yet, thinking more about this, why is Retin A known to work for everyone who uses it (if they can stick with it and get past the side effects), yet no other ingredient/product seems to be that way? |
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:36 pm |
While I think NOTCH's response has been 'aggressive'. I somewhat agree with him regarding the ingredients.
I think 100% Pure makes them sound better then they really. But they are in the business to sell products.
Here's one review:
http://thebeautybrains.com/2008/08/09/how-pure-are-100-pure-cosmetics/
Anyway....If they have products that work for you then thats great. I didn't care for the TM but I will probably try other products in the future. |
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:20 pm |
I agree they are indeed in business to sell products and as such should adhere to the labeling guidelines required by the industry, we wouldn't accept this from any of the major brands out there.
I think sometimes things are taken incorrectly when anyone posts scientific data, I personally find it helpful from any poster! That is just me! As to a spelling error, I read the threads and find many typo's including my own! I am sure the vegan spelled as veegan was just that a simple typo, not a single one amongst us is perfect!
If this brand makes you happy I think it's great! I am put off by any company incorrectly labeling products, many have sensitivities to certain ingredients and proper labeling should be practiced by any cosmetic/skin care manufacturer!
IMHO
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:44 pm |
You are right rileygirl, cosmetic products do not work in the same way for everyone. We all have different skin physiology. Person to person, race to race, male to female, our skin composition can be as different as fingerprints. So, something that works well for one person may not work so well for you. That is true.
John
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| NOTCH wrote: |
My products have been marketed and sold for years and are well received as being very functional and efficacious while being very low priced as well.
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John,
I do have a question, though this may not be the appropriate thread. Nevertheless, I will ask it here. Being a costmetic chemist, why do you feel it is that all products don't work for everyone? I have been thinking about this lately, and I know I have said it myself that "everyone is different". Yet, thinking more about this, why is Retin A known to work for everyone who uses it (if they can stick with it and get past the side effects), yet no other ingredient/product seems to be that way? |
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:51 pm |
DarkMoon, you have quite correctly interpreted my intent in joining this thread. This was in no way a personal attack on Jennifer herself.
You must remember that the cosmetic industry is a "self-regulating" industry. Cosmetic chemists, cosmetic suppliers, cosmetic producers all remain vigilent against misinformation in our industry. That kind of information can cause problems with the industry, so we are all ready and able to make corrections when needed.
I added my comments simply to make the technical corrections necessary for one of these products. Everything that I posted is factual, true, and backed up by research in the literature and regulations.
In other words, there were no cheap shots here.
If some of you would prefer that I don't point out the errors, misinformation and misleading marketing that some companies use, then hey, I'll back off and let you make your own mistakes ($$$).
John
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I agree they are indeed in business to sell products and as such should adhere to the labeling guidelines required by the industry, we wouldn't accept this from any of the major brands out there.
I think sometimes things are taken incorrectly when anyone posts scientific data, I personally find it helpful from any poster! That is just me! As to a spelling error, I read the threads and find many typo's including my own! I am sure the vegan spelled as veegan was just that a simple typo, not a single one amongst us is perfect!
If this brand makes you happy I think it's great! I am put off by any company incorrectly labeling products, many have sensitivities to certain ingredients and proper labeling should be practiced by any cosmetic/skin care manufacturer!
IMHO
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:55 pm |
Hi manslayerliz...
Do you consider any of my "complaints" (your term, not mine) unfounded? If so, which one and why?
John
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Hi Jennifer and welcome! I've been using 100% Pure's products for years and I love them. I would especially recommend checking out the Nectarine lotion--- it's the best-smelling lotion I've ever used. I'm very sensitive to strong scents and perfumes, so finding a scented lotion I can actually enjoy is a rare treat for me.
Also, please don't be put off by the ahem, exuberance of some other members here. Some members here actually make and sell their own body care, so you can understand that they don't want to pass up a chance to complain about the competition. However, the majority of people here are very nice and not looking to sell anything, so I hope you will continue to post and participate.^-^ |
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:34 pm |
John,
If I have a vote you as well as a few others who are professionals that post here with the intent to educate us all, I sincerely hope you continue to contribute as always! Your no BS informative posts are appreciated by most members here! I do research myself and find many who post scientific data to be quite helpful!
Hope you continue to help us all!
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:45 pm |
Not a problem. I think a lot of people tend to forget that I've dissected many other cosmetic formula ingredients lists for many other products at the request of forum posters before on this board. None of those technical reviews generated any sort of negativity.
Don't worry, I'll remain with this board and others as I find the time.
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:11 pm |
| Welcome ItsEssential! I am more of a lurker than a poster but I enjoyed your review. I'm always on the look-out for good quality cosmetics. I have to admit, I did find NOTCH's response to you on the belligerent side but that is the problem with seeing things in print - some people find it hard to write in a conversational tone. Please don't let it discourage you from posting again! Cheers, Bessie |
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Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:31 pm |
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You are right rileygirl, cosmetic products do not work in the same way for everyone. We all have different skin physiology. Person to person, race to race, male to female, our skin composition can be as different as fingerprints. So, something that works well for one person may not work so well for you. That is true.
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Thanks for the reply, John. I understand about everyone's make-up being different, but I really wonder why only 1 active (tretinoin), to date, has been proven to work on everyone who uses it, but none of the other actives are like that.
ETA: I wanted to add that I am not talking about NOTCH products working or not. I am talking in general here. |
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