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Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:36 pm  |
As I was talking with SeanySeanUK about the importance of approaching age reversal in a holistic way and what tools we can use for that, I thought it was worth to start a new thread about this.
I hope it is ok to post in this category section of the forum.. It is about 'DIY tools' such as using affirmations (and afformations during facial exercises, using energy selfhelp tools such as EFT, TAPAS accupressure etc) anyway, but a lot has to do with the philosophy behind these tools, so as an introduction to the holistic approach of skin rejuvenation, I want to post an interview with a renowned holistic minded dermatologist that I translated from Dutch with the help of google translator.
I've always been intrigued by his philosophy on skin rejuvenation from the moment I read this interview,
so here it is for you:
INTERVIEW ABOUT ANTI_AGING WITH HOLISTIC-MINDED DERMATOLOGIST KARAVANI:
"You come just in time," says Dr. Ilan Karavani, "I'm just about to bury my fish."
Doctor Karavani is an internationally renowned dermatologist. If there is a television announcer who is notable still looking young and smooth, then the chances are big that (s)he's already payed a visit in Karavani's twenty-something constituent clinic. In an article about the fight against skin aging, we *had* to interview him.
But it promises to be an unusual conversation. "This fish," he says, as we stand in his garden and he shows me the just deceased one he fished from his pond , "has overeaten itself." The fish skin looks indeed as if it's cracked. "A good illustration," he says, " of what I am about to tell you. A dead fish is not as beautiful as a living fish. Beauty and health go hand in hand."
While I am trying to overcome my first surprise, he squeezes a glass of carrot juice - his breakfast- and then he grabs the magazine of Touring Secours, browses to the appropriate page and highlights the head of a piece: "Healthy food, a lot of exercise, a positive outlook and live longer." "That is a correct conclusion," he says, "but how does it exactly work? That is never stated anywhere. "He takes sheets of paper, three colored pencils, drawing diagrams and starts to tell us his viewpoint on aging.
ILAN KARAVANI: "Look, the condition of a skin cell is not separate from the condition of the cells in the rest of your body - roughly a liver cell or a lungcel. The only difference is that the skin is on the outside and we we measure our beauty and aging from that. If our liver was on the outside, a whole lot of people also would want plastic surgery on their liver, you know ? General health and beauty go hand in hand, and it starts with the health of your cells. And that depends not only from what you eat but also how you live, who your friends are and what you keep yourself busy with."
HUMO (interviewer): Euh?
KARAVANI: "You certainly did not expect this, huh? You wanted a story about creams and surgery, but those serve only for restoration works and what you achieve with that is never really that good, because it is not consistent with who you are. You can see it often, don't you think? A face that makes you think: she looks young, but something is not quite right. "
HUMO: Doesn't making such faces defines your job?
KARAVANI: "That is the picture that you have. I view skin rejuvenation holistically. Everything is connected to everything. A cell can not live without blood. Blood carries oxygen, food and information - information from the nervous system in the form of hormones amongst other things. Seventy times per minute that is being delivered to a cell. If the cell received unhealthy nutrition, lack of oxygen and incorrect information then it shrivels and dies off. Is the nutrition healthy, the information positive and if the blood pumps the cell full of oxygen, then it looks pretty, it is alive and it can divide and multiply itself.
"For the oxygen supply, the lung and heart and vascular system has to run well. You need to exercise alot, they say in Touring Secours, but that's not the point. Yogi masters don't go jogging. It is important to breathe properly, and they control their breathing perfectly. They can control their cells to that extent that they can increase the temperature in their lefthand with five degrees while the temperature in their righthand lowers five degrees. " And our hearts, we just need to take good care of. Love makes your heart beat. If you're in love tomorrow, your skin will look better in no time. That's why good relationships with your environment is very important. In Monaco there is a big heart hospital. You know why? Because dominating others is not good for your heart, and it are mostly managers who are affected by heart attacks.
"Eating healthy, what is that? Minimizing waste build! So choose food that is as close as possible to the natural ingredients you need. Very simple. And: eat little, and select food of good quality. The body in fact needs very little food. All waste and everything we eat too much, the cells have to drain, and with this we overload and age them. What they can't dispose, the body has to save and with that we poison our system. We would stay longer young and become much older if we were eating much less. Did you know that a person eats an average of one hundred tons in a human life? That is way too much.
"We stock out of fear: the fear that Mother Nature wouldn't provide enough for us. A basic trust in life and the universe and having the confidence that we will not be wronged, it is elementary. It has repercussions to the last cell. "Then there is the information from our nervous system, our thinking. Everyone talks about the positive outlook, even Touring Secours. Just a matter of having a good laugh and saying "Be happy!", they say. But that is not so. It's about knowing what your position in this world is, knowing what you can mean to this world and bring it here, and how you can pass that on until the last cell to yourself.
If you are not doing all of the above, then yes, you will age quickly - take for instance : people who eat few fruits and consume pasta's, alcohol and other fermenting substances, are often affected by drooping eyelids. Then you have to correct and match: pills for the heart and blood vessels, omega 3's, antioxidants, creams ... All quick fixes that you do not need if you take good care of your cells. Moreover, it is a drop in the ocean compared to what good food and good living does. Nothing works as powerful as a healthy blood flow that reaches your cell at seventy times per minute. "You still look strange, but I tell you, within a few decades this holistic approach to my profession will be commonplace."
HUMO: It is all very spiritual what you say and most spiritual people are averse to face lifts and botox injections. You combine two worlds that are often very conflicting.
KARAVANI: "It is very simple. I tell you how to maintain your house - that is the holistic approach. If you do not properly maintain your home and it creates a leak somewhere, you can call on me as a plumber and then I'll restore your plumbing leak. A plumber- if he sees your rotten pipes, will say: "Madam, you must take better care of your home." If you say: "Leave me alone. I'm busy, I have no time for that house, "then the plumber goes home and next time he'll fix the leak again, no?"
HUMO: So you are a 'priest-plumber' ?
KARAVANI: "Why not? If a lifting is successful, it may well be that because of that, you dare to make contact with your fellow man. Maybe it helps you to win the love of first one and then several people, so you step out of your isolation, slowly open your heart, your breathing deepens and your heart rate improves. The profession of priests and plumber go hand in hand. "
HUMO: What creams do you recommend for patients who come for anti-aging advice?
KARAVANI: "With cosmetics and wrinkle creams, you can only correct wrinkels up to a millimeter deep. If you want effect on deep wrinkles of several millimeters deep, then you have to graduate to medicines: injections, fillers and lifting. "
HUMO: You have renewed the skin biometrics with your insight: you have developped a computer program that can measure in detail how the skin ages, what treatment is appropriate and what the best cream is you can use.
KARAVANI: "Yes. Such measurement is essential. If you want to play tennis, you can not wear high heels either. With creams it's the same. I get people here who are outraged that their expensive cream doesn't make their skin more beautiful. But if you have oily skin and you smear a rich cream on it , then you get acne and you create a problem on top of it, no matter how expensive the cream is. The biggest gain you get from a cream is one that is perfectly adapted to your skin and your problem. You must first know under which category your skin falls. And that is not as classified by the perfume industry as: either dry, or fat, or a combination or sensitive. That is far too imprecise. I have more than a thousand different skin types in my computer. The computer measuring wrinkles, pores, skin structure, moisture content, evaporation rate, pigment, rosacea, temperature, the functioning of the skin barrier ... "
HUMO: Are you the only one in Belgium with such a computer?
KARAVANI: "There are a sixty-some allover the world. But the future for me is that in each perfume/ cosmetics shop such a computer will be available, so that everyone can measure their own skin, and this way know which creams will work efficiently. Then no one ever has to rely on advertising, and try out five pots of cream before finding the right one. If it is good then the entire cosmetics industry will change . Anyway, I'm first of all busy with improving the software. "
HUMO: People often think the more expensive the cream, the better. Is that correct?
KARAVANI: "The main difference between cheap and expensive creams is comfort. And the ingredients are often a little purer. It's just a matter of luxury. But if you just want results and nothing more, you're also served with a basic cream. "
HUMO: And which basic creams are they then?
KARAVANI: "If you want to counter aging, there are a few things important.
A: remove the dead cell layers by a scrub or - in extremis - a fruit acid peeling. Then soothe the skin, for example extracts from chestnuts. Then relax the skin with Myokine, for example. And finally, preventing the aging of the skin with substances that have proven to improve the functioning of the cells. These are tretinoin - only available with prescription- and its derivatives for the industry: retinol and retinaldehyde. The antioxidants, including vitamin C and E are known, have proven to have effect. And the latest antioxidants - the soy extracts, green tea, and a whole range of other substances - also seem to work. And then there are also ingredients that stop pigment spots caused by aging. "
HUMO: What do you do?
KARAVANI: "I scrub every day and I use vitamin C. I pay special attention to my lifestyle. The 'one bullet-idea' of the past -that with one therapy per problem, you can solve everything - no longer exists. It is a comprehensive approach. I've adapted my practice to the holistic approach. "
HUMO:I still find it strange that you are so spiritual, and yet have one of the largest anti-aging clinics in Belgium.
KARAVANI: "Look, I am of Jewish descent, the grandson of a famous rabbi. I was preordained to become a rabbi himself. Untill my sixteenth I was trained for that. I eventually opted for science, but for me it is a very logical thing to unite the two.
"Now, I've lately been reorienting and focused myself more on what I think I should do in this life. I get rid more and more from what does not belong to me. We have for instance significantly reduced the invasive procedures in our practice. We have developped other techniques.
Most faces actually have no excess in skin, but a shortage in fat, they are say, run down. We now often fill faces with their own fat. I also still do some big surgery, but with each treatment belongs a leaflet that says the bigger picture is that I assume that it really hasn't got much point in lifting or filling if you do not also decide to change internally. I want to offer a comprehensive program, a long-term approach that really works anti-aging. We can really rejuvenate, we can turn the clock back as long as you watch your diet, your breathing and correct thinking and dealings with people."
"Did you know we are almost of the same age? You didn't think so, huh."
As we say goodbye, I remain amazed about his forty-six years old but perfectly smooth, wrinkle-free face.
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:19 pm |
A very interesting read Kandy! Thank you so much for starting this thread.
Have you read the "Japanese Skincare Revolution"? Cinzu Saeki, at 65, visualizes attractive men to evoke that "in love" elixir that Dr. Karavani also refers to. She considers it a supplement for healthy skin. She is also a very holistic practitioner and the book offers suggestions for diet, relaxation and even prayers of gratitude as important for achieving beauty. She has a simple but a bit time consuming skin care routine.
I love this quote from an interview..
"I would like to rephrase "anti-aging" as "beautiful aging" to show a positive way of mind, because 'anti' makes it sound as if you want to deny your fulfilling life upon reaching the age when you can reflect on it. 'Beautiful aging,' which expresses appreciation for your life and aging beautifully toward your dreams, sounds much more wonderful."
I look forward to responses from other like-minded ladies and gents! |
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:36 pm |
liking the way this thread's going, particularly regarding including affirm/formations/visualizations, etc- i think a lot of this goes hand-in-hand and i've personally found that even the most tried-and-true 'solutions' won't necessarily work a damn if you're seriously overflowing with negative expectations and essentially visualizing failure/things going wrong.
i wasn't aware of the importance of these things when i began noticing what horrible 'luck' i had with every procedure i had done. but it happened too many times to seem coincidental anymore and i began reading into it and it lined up quite creepily.
i also agree with what zoftig mentioned about gratitude- helping focus on what you want to continue showing up in your life, and so on. anyway, hope to see some new info/p.o.v.'s in this thread. |
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Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:21 pm |
| Kandy, I posted on your other thread, but I wanted to say thank you for posting this. Very informative. I smiled when the interviewer remarked how he is wrinkle free at 46. I am also a wrinkle free 46 yr. old, as are many of the women here in this age group lol. I've never had botox or fillers but I have always had a clean diet and stayed out of the sun. So we all may be doing something right. |
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:36 am |
There's two things that I do that I want to mention. Firstly although I'm a great fan of exercises I understand that not everyone is, and thats fine, but I want to share this technique as I think its so user friendly it can be applied anytime.
When I'm working out my facial muscles, I often use gratitude affirmations on the muscle I'm working out, or I affirm its strength. So for example in FlexEffect there are exercises for every muscle grouping, so when I am working out a particular muscle group such as the risorius in my mind I say "thank you risorius for all that you do", or "My risorius is beautiful and strong", but you can do the same thing when you apply your cleanser/moisturiser and sunscreen or even whilst brushing your hair.
You can say thank you, I love you, or sometimes you might want to say a simply sorry - as we often go through many years with neglecting our faces and then worry about them when they show us the end result.
The other thing that I do is I lay my hands on my face and imagine energy going from my hands into the face and muscles. I learned a meditation technique (and she has a great dvd out) from a woman who does an energy type massage called Emma Hardie (which should be available on amazon). This kind of technique I use on my face, hands and in my hair. |
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:13 am |
I also smiled when I read that he is 46 and has no wrinkles. I too am 46 and have no wrinkles. As men have 30% thicker skin than women and higher blood flow to the skin due to higher testosterone, he should still have pretty good skin. He does, however, have bags and slackness under the eyes. Let's face it. To a certain extent it's genetic, and the colour of a person's skin affects wrinkling also. People with fairer skin tend to wrinkle earlier than people with olive toned or darker skin, and I'm lucky enough to have light olive skin.
As for eating less, I agree with him - in the west we do eat more than we need and a lot of what we eat is total c#@p. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen people eat an energy or muesli bar instead of a piece of fruit despite the fact that the piece of fruit has fewer calories, costs less, has live enzymes and doesn't produce waste in the form of a wrapper. Calorie restriction with optimal nutrition is what he is advocating and it certainly can make a difference. Basically it means eating 30% fewer calories than most people do, but making sure that the food you do eat is very nutrient dense. Some people choose to eat fewer calories every day, other people choose to fast one or two days per week to reduce their total calorie intake per week. The problem with reducing calories on a daily basis is that over time the metabolism can slow down so that any increase in calories will cause a person to put on weight, and also it makes having a social life quite difficult. I choose to fast one or two days a week, depending on what is going on in my life. However I've only been doing this for a couple of years (love it by the way) so it certainly doesn't account for my lack of wrinkles.
I believe in a holistic approach and treating ourselves kindly is one of the best things we can do to prevent aging. Minimise reading womens magazines and watching shows that talk about celebrities. Praise yourself often. Do things that make you happy. Don't weigh yourself every day. Refuse to read another diet book ever! Stop looking for wrinkles every day. Don't smoke, eat fresh food and drink in moderation, but if you love beer and hate red wine, don't force yourself to choose red wine over beer because of its supposed heatlh benefits, just have a beer instead.
Now that I've had my little rant - I also feel that massage, acupressure, moderate supplementation with super foods such as brewers yeast, spirulina, flax meal or oil etc instead of synthetic multivitamin tablets, can all make a difference to our overall health and the way we look. I also love being able to take control of my own health by giving myself a foot massage or hand reflexology and knowing that I can't do myself any harm but can possibly do a great deal of good for free, using nothing but my own hands and a good book from the library. I' beginning to rant again so I'll stop now. |
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:59 am |
| Zoftig wrote: |
Have you read the "Japanese Skincare Revolution"? |
No, I haven't. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. And I agree with the quote on 'beautiful aging' being much more positive than using the term 'anti-aging', because everything you resist, persists, so it's better to have an appreciative attitude, yet at the same time be open to new ideas and concepts of aging compared to our ancestors.
| semolinapilchard wrote: |
| i wasn't aware of the importance of these things when i began noticing what horrible 'luck' i had with every procedure i had done. but it happened too many times to seem coincidental anymore and i began reading into it and it lined up quite creepily. |
I think I'm having a bit of the same problem and eventhough I'm into holistic thinking for some while, I still have difficulty practicising what I preach, lol. I think this may be the culprit for most who have little or no success so far with the various treatments they tried.
Swissmom, that's good to hear! Keep it up!
| SeanySeanUK wrote: |
| so when I am working out a particular muscle group such as the risorius in my mind I say "thank you risorius for all that you do", or "My risorius is beautiful and strong", but you can do the same thing when you apply your cleanser/moisturiser and sunscreen or even whilst brushing your hair. |
That's a great idea! I've read someone using a visualisation technique like you described as well and having success with it. You can't go wrong by applying such simple things to your daily routine of facial ex. and massage. It's definitely a better approach than as what luckylouie already mentioned about looking in the mirror everyday to watch for wrinkles.
I think we need to remind ourselves that we are build out of energy, even if it's not visible with the naked eye, everything consists out of little particles of energy that constantly vibrates at a certain frequency, creating the illusion that things-our bodies for instance- are solid. Thoughts and emotions are energy as well, so it all interacts with one another and we can influence our bodies/appearance with our thoughts and emotions as these are the tools we use to create. |
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:08 am |
I don't know how many of you have read Eckhart Tolle's book 'the power of now'.
There's a chapter in which he speaks about how awareness of the inner body (that comes through meditation, feeling the body rather than thinking-living in the head) significantly slows down the aging process. By living in the *now*, we don't create a past or future to worry about, so negativity can not exist in the now. The physical immune system is strengthened as well. |
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:39 am |
You betcha, and its a good book. She's often criticised though for recommending people use the best skin care stuff (serums etc) which I don't think is fair, but I really like how she emphasises massage, and good skincare and habits (and I think she mentions diet also briefly). I do like her idea though about the "in love elixir" which she does by watching old movies and imagining she is the person that the star is in love with - and hey if it works for people - thats what counts.
Good point re meditation Kandy. Thats something I was lucky enough to learn as a kid, and I swear its a saving grace for anyone to pick up. Its not complicated at all and there are so many forms of it out there, but what it does is bring you back to your body, or you notice just what your thoughts tell you throughout your day by just observing, not judging or criticising. It certainly was an eye opener when I at one point carried a notebook round and made a mark each time I criticised myself. I had originally intended to do it for a week - but lasted only a morning (and even then I think I got through half the notebook.
I think one lady who has really taught people so much about positive thinking in a beautiful way is Louise Hay. Now I know not everyone likes her, but her premise is so simple. She really brings it home that to love yourself is the most important thing we can do for ourselves and that once we get that everything else falls into place.
Another interesting thing I mention here casually that I observed is that when I eat sugary foods and my blood sugar goes up, my emotions do run a riot. I for example have been diabetic for a long time now, but in my youth if I had a sugary drink, it could really raise my levels and one of the emotions I noticed that constantly sprang up was Anger. Now I'm not saying that everyone who experiences anger has high sugarlevels. But its interesting to me that I notice with my own body if my sugars are high, I very easily fall into the anger mood! Meditation though was my saving grace, as I literally learned how to feel where my sugars were (and still to this day can) which still perplexus the docs!
| Zoftig wrote: |
Have you read the "Japanese Skincare Revolution"? Cinzu Saeki, at 65, visualizes attractive men to evoke that "in love" elixir that Dr. Karavani also refers to. She considers it a supplement for healthy skin. She is also a very holistic practitioner and the book offers suggestions for diet, relaxation and even prayers of gratitude as important for achieving beauty. She has a simple but a bit time consuming skin care routine.
I love this quote from an interview..
"I would like to rephrase "anti-aging" as "beautiful aging" to show a positive way of mind, because 'anti' makes it sound as if you want to deny your fulfilling life upon reaching the age when you can reflect on it. 'Beautiful aging,' which expresses appreciation for your life and aging beautifully toward your dreams, sounds much more wonderful."
I look forward to responses from other like-minded ladies and gents! |
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:39 am |
lol I couldn't resist posting another pic of Ilan Karavani, albeit at a younger age (don't know how old he was here exactly), but wow he has great skin!
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:48 am |
| SeanySeanUK wrote: |
| I for example have been diabetic for a long time now, but in my youth if I had a sugary drink, it could really raise my levels and one of the emotions I noticed that constantly sprang up was Anger. Now I'm not saying that everyone who experiences anger has high sugarlevels. But its interesting to me that I notice with my own body if my sugars are high, I very easily fall into the anger mood! Meditation though was my saving grace, as I literally learned how to feel where my sugars were (and still to this day can) which still perplexus the docs! |
So are you still diabetic now? I read several accounts from people being cured of severe diabetis within a couple of days by juicing and going on a raw food (vegan) diet.
Amazing how you can know where your sugars are, lol. I've heard that food high in sugar, such as fruit is best eaten when you want to do active stuff. I eat a lot of dates however, even when I sit at my computer all day long, but I have a sweet tooth and eating dates for my dessert is always better than cookies, cakes or any other fabricated sugary stuff. |
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:17 am |
Sure I'm still diabetic now, but I'm so very well controlled with it and although I inject, they are really miniscule amounts because I don't have foods that spike up my body's needs for insulin.
I have seen the dvds on the diabetics that cured themselves with it, and I do add a lot of raw food to my diet, but I haven't been able to go down to the completely raw lifestyle just yet, but I'm in very good health and having had the condition over 25 years now and not having any of the side effects, all is well with me.
My doctors do every test they can at times looking for problems, but never find any - and sometimes I get the impression that they are disappointed. It was amazing to me growing up though, every year through the door literature would come advising of some long term effects that diabetics would get after so many years, and I have been so fortunate not to have any of them. The one that really gave me horror stories was in my teens when it had that 80% of diabetics who have the condition over 15 years usually have to have their feet amputated due to the nerve damage done to their feet and the poor circulation etc. Talk about giving people scarey ideas.
I've been very lucky though in having really great teachers nearby when I have had that. When I was studying nutrition, my tutor said to me that many of the so called problems that diabetics encounter are not due solely to diabetes but improper care/nutrition. Such things like nerve damage take years to really show up in that kind of way. When I look at health care in general in the UK - its easy to see its sympton curing rather than cause curing as a result.
To me one of the blessings that I discovered and will continue to use is deliberate thinking of positive affirmations. Much like has been discussed already, a great deal of aging has to do with the mind, we assume a great deal of importance to the number of our years, whereas in reality, we are creations of our thoughts.
Its exciting ground to be on, and its one of those ones that sometimes you start out with just one affirmation and hey presto things start changing. My all time favourite is one of Louise Hays: "Only good lies before me" because no matter what comes up, its a definitive instruction to the mind, and I think it really influences how we perceive the world around us. People could just as easily make one up on the aging process like "With every day, in every way, I'm getting better and better" etc. Maybe we should share affirmation ideas? Who wants to start 
| Kandy wrote: |
So are you still diabetic now? I read several accounts from people being cured of severe diabetis within a couple of days by juicing and going on a raw food (vegan) diet.
Amazing how you can know where your sugars are, lol. I've heard that food high in sugar, such as fruit is best eaten when you want to do active stuff. I eat a lot of dates however, even when I sit at my computer all day long, but I have a sweet tooth and eating dates for my dessert is always better than cookies, cakes or any other fabricated sugary stuff. |
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:52 pm |
My favorite Louise Hay affirmation - "I love and accept myself exactly as I am."
Donna Eden's book "Energy Medicine for Women" describes an old Applied Kinesiology technique called temporal tapping that will interest you. It's tapping along the cranial suture lines on each side of the head while doing affirmations. Google "temporal tap" and get loads of information. I think her book mentioned on page 4 (google books) will give the explanation and a diagram from her original book "Energy Medicine". I prefer the explanation in the book for women but you'll get the idea. It can be used for habit breaking, financial abundance, or our interest - health and wholeness.
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:03 pm |
Another great source and actually one worth talking about as her energy medicine stuff is fantastic. I have had that book for ages, and have some of her dvd's and I think her message is very much similar to what we are talking about here in aging healthily but holistically. After all the nature by product of a healthy body is that it looks good!
EFT is another one that many have used with success, particularly if your concerned with a particular part of your look. I have a friend who swears by it, and she used to constantly critcise her nose shape, but she started doing EFT on it, and it decharged that from her body and really helped her change her feelings about her body and face and her nose. To me, it was never as bad as she felt it was, but you know since she started doing EFT, it really did have a changing effect on it.
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My favorite Louise Hay affirmation - "I love and accept myself exactly as I am."
Donna Eden's book "Energy Medicine for Women" describes an old Applied Kinesiology technique called temporal tapping that will interest you. It's tapping along the cranial suture lines on each side of the head while doing affirmations. Google "temporal tap" and get loads of information. I think her book mentioned on page 4 (google books) will give the explanation and a diagram from her original book "Energy Medicine". I prefer the explanation in the book for women but you'll get the idea. It can be used for habit breaking, financial abundance, or our interest - health and wholeness.
I'm going to stop while I'm ahead here - I managed to erase my first and much more lengthy post explaining all this. |
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:48 pm |
What is EFT? I did a search of the forum and only returned 7 hits that I couldn't glean much info from.
Thanks in advance for any enlightenment! |
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:55 pm |
How great that you've heard of Donna Eden. I was lucky to have a one day training with her last year at a spiritual book store. Her energy and enthusiasm for what she does is phenomenal. I also have her DVD's and now that the reminder has shown up, I will go back to those wonderful routines. I would certainly recommend them to anyone on this thread!
(I also spent a week with Louise Hay many, many years ago. Absolutely a life changing experience.) |
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Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:24 pm |
Sean, that's great you have your diabetes well under control now! I'm also impressed with what the raw food diet can do. I'm not 100% raw either, but eat more raw and organic than before, including green smoothies in the morning. I lost weight too.
Speaking of affirmations, I'm not sure if you have heard of afformations too?
I prefer to use those over the regular affirmations, I think it's a better 'trick' for the subconscious mind.
In case you or anybody else reading this is wondering what an afformation is: it's an affirmation in the form of a question.
For instance: why is my skin so smooth?
If you would do an affirmation and say 'my skin is so smooth' but the reality may be that your skin doesn't look smooth at all at the moment, as a result the subconscious mind (SC) may resist, whereas when you ask a question there is no resistance, instead the SC works like a harddisk and immediately searches for the answer(s) to that question and not even questioning or resisting the statement. So it both affirms a positive statement in a hidden way and it attracts you to the ways that will lead you to, in this case, smooth skin. Smart huh!  |
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Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:38 am |
Zofig, LOL you know I'm with you on Donna Eden. I did a weekend workshop she did back in New York a few years ago, and loved it.... plus I told her about my diabetes and got a load of tips from her and she used me to demo quite a lot of things too.
Yep Louise is a sweetie. I never did a workshop of hers, but I did go to a seminar she held which was more of a kind of lecture of her talking about what she practiced and believed and that was literally life changing stuff!
Kandy that is great about afformations. I have not heard of that concept before but can understand how it would work for sure. WIth affirmations though, I think the trick to them is to use them to see what blocks you have.
For example something like "I love myself". I tend to fold a page in a notebook side ways, so you create two columns. In the first I write the affirmation, and in the second I write my mind's response, and continue going. Its a great way of erasing the harddisk but you really can get some fascinating insights into it. Its what Louise used to teach at her workshops and others have done it too. I do like the afformations idea! I'll have to google it and see what comes up.
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How great that you've heard of Donna Eden. I was lucky to have a one day training with her last year at a spiritual book store. Her energy and enthusiasm for what she does is phenomenal. I also have her DVD's and now that the reminder has shown up, I will go back to those wonderful routines. I would certainly recommend them to anyone on this thread!
(I also spent a week with Louise Hay many, many years ago. Absolutely a life changing experience.) |
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Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:47 am |
For those of a technical mind there's a great article about cells; how they work and what they're capable of.
This is one of the most important pieces I have ever read.
http://www.viewzone.com/dna.html
Disclaimer for the small minority who enjoy using EDS to negatively pounce on scientific articles: the views aren't all perfect, there are gaps - it is a work in progress - but it's hugely educational if you believe in holistic health. |
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Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:49 am |
Actually that looks a very interesting article too Miranda. It reminds me a little of Bruce Lipton's book. But there is another book I want to shout out on - and thats Barbara Wren's book Cellular Awakening which talks about light too. I actually studied under Barbara Wren herself and her work and knowledge is soooo exciting and interesting. She even taught doctors about nutrition and naturopathy. She focuses on using nutrition and nautropathic practices to return the body to harmony, and I know from my own personal experience her stuff was lightyears ahead of everyone else when I first heard of it, and still to this day I haven't seen anyone with such knowledge speaking openly about that stuff.
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For those of a technical mind there's a great article about cells; how they work and what they're capable of.
This is one of the most important pieces I have ever read.
http://www.viewzone.com/dna.html
Disclaimer for the small minority who enjoy using EDS to negatively pounce on scientific articles: the views aren't all perfect, there are gaps - it is a work in progress - but it's hugely educational if you believe in holistic health. |
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Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:37 am |
I enjoy this article and I love the thread as well, just my line of thinking...
Have read Bruce Lipton's books and Love them! Does anyone how other recommendations on books along this line?
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Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:30 am |
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Actually that looks a very interesting article too Miranda. It reminds me a little of Bruce Lipton's book. But there is another book I want to shout out on - and thats Barbara Wren's book Cellular Awakening which talks about light too. I actually studied under Barbara Wren herself and her work and knowledge is soooo exciting and interesting. She even taught doctors about nutrition and naturopathy. She focuses on using nutrition and nautropathic practices to return the body to harmony, and I know from my own personal experience her stuff was lightyears ahead of everyone else when I first heard of it, and still to this day I haven't seen anyone with such knowledge speaking openly about that stuff.
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Sean, can you explain what naturopathy is? I think I understand but what it fully encompasses would be great. |
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Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:34 am |
Wikipedia does it better than I could:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturopathy
Naturopathy (not to be confused with naturopathic medicine or natural medicine) is the systematic application and philosophy of lifestyle and natural forces to allow the body's innate healing potential to restore and maintain health. Naturopathy recognizes the natures inherent processes of healing, and acts in no way to suppress, antagonize or hinder these vital life forces, but rather to arouse, assist and cooperate with them through the use of use of natural agencies as air, sunshine, water, light, heat, electricity, body manipulations, rest, natural vital foods, organic vitamins, organic, minerals, herbs in conjunction with the cleansing and eliminating processes of other physical and mental cultures.[1] Naturopathy does not make use of synthetic or inorganic vitamins or minerals, or of drugs, narcotics, surgery, serums, vaccines, anti-toxins, toxiod, injections or inoculations. Naturopathy also provides for the prevention of sub-health conditions by teaching and applying the fundamental laws of natural living.[2][3]. Naturopathy can be distinguished from medicine (and naturopathic medicine) in that it believes that all disease is the result of a departure from healthful living out of harmony with Natures laws and the only way to correct disease is to restore that harmony by living in accordance with natures laws. With this understanding the naturopath recognizes that the Medical notion one can shortcut nature by diagnosing and treating individual diseases with potions, wonder drugs, serums, surgery and rejects these notions as folly.[4][5] Naturopathy medicine, on the other hand embraces these medical notions and consider themselves "primary doctors".
Naturopathy has its origins in the Nature Cure movement of Europe.[6][7] The term was coined in 1895 by John Scheel. Dr. Benedict Lust purchased the trademark rights to that term and became known as ,[8] the "father of U.S. naturopathy".[9] |
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Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:13 am |
Here is some actual medical evidence that our emotional states and love can effect our skin and healing...really gives you some food for thought!
"In a study, researchers inflicted small blister wounds on couples and monitored them for 24 hours. The blisters of quarrelsome couples healed 40 percent more slowly than the blisters of more amiable pairs. Promote a peaceful partnership by practicing conflict resolution with your significant other and finding common ground whenever possible."
Reference: "Hostile marital interactions, proinflammatory cytokine production, and wound healing." Kiecolt-Glaser, J. K., Loving, T. J., Stowell, J. R., Malarkey, W. B., Lemeshow, S., Dickinson, S. L., Glaser, R., Archives of General Psychiatry 2005 Dec;62(12):1377-1384.
Source: RealAge |
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