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Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:20 pm  |
| is bee propolis beneficial for skin in any way? |
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:41 am |
I've not tried any bee propolis yet. Planning to try it out one day but have far too many other products on the go at the moment. 
From what I've read on the internet, bee propolis is supposed to be beneficial for wound healing as it is considered to have anti-bacterial properties. It's supposed to be good for a few skin conditions. I was interested in it as a spot healing remedy.
Bee propolis is supposed to contain various vitamins, minerals, amino acids and flavonoids.
Anybody out there tried propolis on their skin? |
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:56 am |
Propolis is HUGE in Japan.. there are a few skin care lines too, but I have not tried. They seem to say also that they are good for troubled skin and balancing the skin.
I dunno.. a good honey mask seems a bit cheaper. 
I was all set to try a herb and propolis line that came out recently here, but when I looked at all the chemicals they added to their "natural" skincare, I baulked. |
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:19 pm |
I used a skincare line for about 3 years that contained bee propolis as it main ingredient. My skin did exceptionally well with it. The propolis used in this line came from Australia.
Bee propolis is anti-fungal, anti-viral and anti-microbial. The anti-microbial factor makes it very effective in fighting acne.
Bee propolis is said to have 150 components, with the flavonoid components accounting for a significant percentage of it's weight.
I really liked the skincare, the propolis and honey soap was great for the bath and acts like a natural deodorant soap.
The bee propolis gel caps got rid of my allergies for 3 years. I think my body adjusted to them and they no longer seem to be as effective.
Probably one of the best things was how the bee propolis toothpaste healed my gums. At one time I had pockets in my gums registering a 7 (you know how they measure that when you get your teeth cleaned.) Ideal is 1 or 2. After using the bee propolis toothpaste for a few months and taking a mineral supplement, my "pockets" now register all 1's and 2's with a very occasional 3.
Benefits that my book on propolis list that could be good for your skin include, soothing inflammation, enhances collagen and elastin formation, heals blemishes, accelerates tissue regeneration.
Bee propolis also comes in liquids that can be used like a liquid bandaid to seal out germs while healing. It comes in a spray that is tremendous for sore throats.
Depending on it's source, propolis may include Vitamins A, C, E, and the B complex, linoleic acid and various minerals and a rich supply of amino acids.
Use of propolis for healing dates back to the time of Hippocrates (460-377 B.C.).
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:02 pm |
| Judy, would you mind sharing the brand that made your bee propolis toothpaste? I have gum problems myself and I would love to take a look. Thanks!!! |
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:32 pm |
| chimera wrote: |
| Judy, would you mind sharing the brand that made your bee propolis toothpaste? I have gum problems myself and I would love to take a look. Thanks!!! |
I would love to share it, but I did a search and confirmed that the company doesn't show up on the internet anymore. I did a quick search on bee propolis toothpaste and two names came up frequently. One is Comvita and the other is Tom's of Maine and I know I've seen Tom's at several health food stores.
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:06 pm |
Thanks for the info!
what i have is bee propolis capsules that i bought from a bee farm (i don't know if this is how you call them)
if bee propolis taken internally...do you think it'll still be beneficial to skin (anti-acne wise)
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:31 pm |
While I believe in bee propolis gelcaps or capsules as a supplement the can promote immune function, I would think that it's greatest benefits would be derived from topical application of a cream. I found some on the net that had bee propolis and vit. E and aloe vera.
The reason I think it's better that way is that all the research was actually done on propolis creams being used to heal burns, applied to the skin topically.
Do a search on "propolis skincare" and you'll find some choices.
I did notice that Pevonia has a propolis cream.
In fact, EDS carries a skin concentrate with propolis by Pevonia for sensitive skin!
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/pevonia-propolis-sensitiv-p_2512.htm
Ask Mabsy or Casper's Mum or call EDS.
JUDY |
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:04 pm |
To my earlier post I should add that Bee Propolis from Australia is the most desired here in Japan. I wonder what makes the Aussie stuff so special?
I know that I will definately HAVE to go propolis shopping when I go home next week. Wish I had some now.. I woke up with a sore throat and I can feel myself gonig downhill quick as the day wears on. YUK! |
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:44 pm |
| tiger_tim wrote: |
To my earlier post I should add that Bee Propolis from Australia is the most desired here in Japan. I wonder what makes the Aussie stuff so special?
I know that I will definately HAVE to go propolis shopping when I go home next week. Wish I had some now.. I woke up with a sore throat and I can feel myself gonig downhill quick as the day wears on. YUK! |
What I was told about why the Australian propolis is preferred is that Australia has the cleanest environment in the world.  The propolis is made when the worker bees gather tree saps and mix them with their own secretions. The resulting mixture, propolis, is used to coat the inside of the hive. Propolis keeps the hive pure and free from infection while providing highly effective protection for it's residents. Neat story: Rodents looking for food sometimes get into the hive. The bees sting it to death and then encase it with propolis. They can't remove it from the hive and the body encased in the pure propolis can last for as much as 5 years without decay.
Now back to the trees in Australia and you. You want the propolis you use to be pure and free of environmental pollution. There are places other than Australia, such as in Europe and Russia and northern parts of the U.S, but Australian propolis is considered best. 
The book I have is called Propolis Power Plus and it's written by Carlson Wade with Joan A Friedrich, Ph.D It's a Keats Good Health Guide and can usually be purchased in health food stores that sell publications. Lots of tremendously interesting info there.
I can also make a recommendation for knocking out that sore throat. I would definitely look for propolis spray, for one. It seems to deaden the throat and it also coats the throat to keep anymore bacteria from proliferating. A sore throat is just the result of bacteria collecting and multiplying in that area.
Another great zapper is aloe vera juice or drink. You can drink a quality aloe vera at the onstart of a cold or flu and drink an ounce several times through the day. If you catch it early, it will never come to fruition. Right now, my allergies are trying so hard to take hold. Lot of mold in the air here now. I'm drinking an ounce of papaya flavored aloe with two ounces of a mineral drink I have that also has 1000 mg of Vitamin C. I'll probably drink another before I go to bed tonight. Everyone thinks "Yuk" when you say to drink aloe vera because they assume it is slimy. But, it's not and some can taste quite good. One thing you always want to look for in your aloe drinks is the seal of the International Aloe Science Council on the label. That certifies that the aloe was processed within 7 hours of being picked to preserve efficacy and that it is cold processed and is pure aloe. A lot of the aloes you buy in the stores says "98% aloe". All that means is that whatever aloe is in it, is 98% aloe and 2% water. But, it means nothing about what percentage of the entire drink is aloe and what percentage is water or how it was processed.
Well, enough of that. Hope you find your propolis and duck that sore throat! :-&
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:04 pm |
| Epicuren also has a whole Propolis line, skincare, throat spray and toothpaste. They state that theirs come from the rainforest. |
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:23 pm |
| cookie wrote: |
| Epicuren also has a whole Propolis line, skincare, throat spray and toothpaste. They state that theirs come from the rainforest. |
Cookie....
Thanks so much for that info. I looked up the Epicuren site and there is a spa that has Epicuren just a few miles from my house! I love the description of the product with enzymes!
Have you used Epicuren yourself?
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Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:29 am |
Sorry, I haven't used this and I haven't read/heard anything about it.
I haven't used any skincare with propolis but my mum made me chew on propolis tablets when I was kid (I didn't mind - they tasted yummy!) to boost my immune system. I was a really sickly kid - had bronchitis every two weeks (like clock work!) and at one stage my Dr actually suggested that they pull me out of school for a year because I was catching EVERY cold and subsequently getting pneumonia. I started taking propolis, some liquid called Biovital (it was by a German company), and some liquid that looked just like the Babor ampules  and things improved. Mind you, my constant getting sick stopped COMPLETELY from the day we moved to Australia. That probably says something about the clean environment Judy mentioned! |
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Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:58 am |
| Judy, I will definitely be checking out Tom's! Thanks for the advice. Could you also share the mineral supplement that you were taking for your gums? I have some receding gums (not sure if this is similar to the pockets problem or not) and am willing to try almost anything 'natural'! Thanks again! |
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Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:18 am |
[quote="Mabsy
I haven't used any skincare with propolis but my mum made me chew on propolis tablets when I was kid (I didn't mind - they tasted yummy!) to boost my immune system. I was a really sickly kid - had bronchitis every two weeks (like clock work!) and at one stage my Dr actually suggested that they pull me out of school for a year because I was catching EVERY cold and subsequently getting pneumonia. I started taking propolis, some liquid called Biovital (it was by a German company), and some liquid that looked just like the Babor ampules and things improved. Mind you, my constant getting sick stopped COMPLETELY from the day we moved to Australia. That probably says something about the clean environment Judy mentioned![/quote]
Sounds like you have a VERY smart mum and you're fortunate that she introduced you to natural products to boost immunity early in your lift. Hope you still listen to her advice on that topic! 
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Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:04 am |
| chimera wrote: |
| Judy, I will definitely be checking out Tom's! Thanks for the advice. Could you also share the mineral supplement that you were taking for your gums? I have some receding gums (not sure if this is similar to the pockets problem or not) and am willing to try almost anything 'natural'! Thanks again! |
Receding gums are pretty much the same as "pockets" because as the gums recede away from the teeth, the pockets between the gum and tooth are created. When you have a dental exam, they place an instrument into the pocket between the gum and tooth and the tool has measurements on them to show how deep the pocket goes. As I said, healthy gums will only have pocket depth of 1 to 3. At 7, I was facing that horrible gum surgery where they peel back the gums and scrape the teeth down almost to the root. YUK!  I had seen my father go through that and I was determined not to go there. 
This particular mineral supplement has been popular in Europe and Japan for over 10 years and is available in the US and pretty much anywhere in the world now. The great thing about it is that it helps the entire body, not just the gums.
Oh, by the way, I read in a dental journal that receding gums is the first sign of osteoporosis and indicates low pH. In an effort to keep pH in the blood at the level it needs to be, the body robs the bones and teeth of calcium and since the teeth are a major store of calcium, that is one of the first places you see evidence of osteoporosis. The good thing about that is by stopping your receding gums, you know you have improved your pH, and stopped the progress of osteoporosis at the earliest stage! 
Will send you info by PM.
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Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:31 pm |
Judy, I also would love to know what mineral supplement you were taking. I'm scheduled to have the gum graft surgery before the year's out and want to do anything I can to avoid it.
Thanks,
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Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:32 pm |
Judy, I also would love to know what mineral supplement you were taking. I'm scheduled to have the gum graft surgery before the year's out and want to do anything I can to avoid it.
Thanks,
River |
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Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:02 am |
| From my experience, I found that it help even your skin tone and had better skin clarity. Also, it help heal any breakouts, but I used the powder to eat it and it tasted awful and couldn't take it. Some people have it with some honey, but I wasn't a big fan of honey also. |
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Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:24 am |
Hi Judy,
Can you please tell me also the name of the supplement? I am too suffering from receding gums
Thanks |
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hetalp
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Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:29 am |
Judy,
would you please kindly share that info on the types of mineral you are/were taking? MY gums are badly receeding and have been told to get gum surgery asap.
thanks
Hetal |
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Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:38 pm |
| JudyMarshall wrote: |
While I believe in bee propolis gelcaps or capsules as a supplement the can promote immune function, I would think that it's greatest benefits would be derived from topical application of a cream. I found some on the net that had bee propolis and vit. E and aloe vera.
The reason I think it's better that way is that all the research was actually done on propolis creams being used to heal burns, applied to the skin topically.
Do a search on "propolis skincare" and you'll find some choices.
I did notice that Pevonia has a propolis cream.
In fact, EDS carries a skin concentrate with propolis by Pevonia for sensitive skin!
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/pevonia-propolis-sensitiv-p_2512.htm
Ask Mabsy or Casper's Mum or call EDS.
JUDY |
thanks judy!
i use the pevonia rose ligne cleanser, toner, and cream but didn't know about this. wonderful!
note: i just noticed someone pulled this out. this is an old thread... but hey this is cool stuff. i love this stuff about the toothpaste! |
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Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:49 pm |
| does anyone here on EDS, still use bee propolis, in their toothpaste or otherwise? |
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Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:37 am |
| i have used propolis gel on my face for years now and i love it its a great antibacterial product to use i use it mostly when i have TOM or if i have a spot that is stubborn |
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Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:17 am |
| londongirl, which bee propolis gel do you use? |
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