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RickR
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Wed May 05, 2010 4:59 pm  |
Hello
I was wondering if it is just me or does the sagging around the nasolabial folds looks more prominent from a distance or with certain types of lighting? Same thing with bags and dark circles under eyes.
It seems like direct lighting (like in front of a sink mirror) is very misleading - and so are photos taken with a flash - everything looks nice and smooth - no folds, no bags under eyes.
And then, you look at yourself in a mirror from a distance at a supermarket or a gym or a store window or something, you go "is that me??" The folds and the bags suddenly seem more pronounced from a distance.
Pictures with a flash - look good. And so do pictures taken without a flash in very bright light - like sunlight. However, when the Flash is turned off (while the lighting is artificial but still good), the picture comes out bright enough and the nasolabial folds and the bags and dark circles look more pronounced.
I am wondering - maybe it is normal for people of all ages to have such folds? I haven't stared at people and I am not sure what is normal when it comes to nasolabial folds... |
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Wed May 05, 2010 5:36 pm |
I've noticed the same  My skin looks much smoother in front of my bath mirror than when I look at myself in a shopping mall mirror ... |
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Wed May 05, 2010 6:05 pm |
| RickR wrote: |
| I am wondering - maybe it is normal for people of all ages to have such folds? I haven't stared at people and I am not sure what is normal when it comes to nasolabial folds... |
It is far more common in people who are showing the signs of aging...their bone and skin structure is changing and things start "sliding" more toward the center of their face. There are nasiolabial lines, marionette lines, etc.
Read up on facial exercising to learn about why it happens, and how to correct it. I no longer get filler in my MLs because of facial exercise, though I personally use the Safetox instead of an exercise program (though I have several of those too).
There a lot of facial exercise threads on the Tools subforum, such as FlexEffect, Ageless, Carol Maggio, etc. |
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Wed May 05, 2010 7:25 pm |
| I have noticed this too, I'm glad I'm not the only one! |
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Thu May 06, 2010 3:44 am |
| I know my mother and her mother had them so I didn't really give them a second thought - I just knew I would get them.... and it didn't bother me. I'm happy to report though that after doing FlexEffect's 3rd edition for me I'm seeing major changes which is not something I was either expecting or trying to influence. I'm also 60 this year, so am a happy bunny!!! |
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Thu May 06, 2010 5:26 am |
| Overhead lighting is the worst, it shows up every flaw. Lighting from behind is most flattering. |
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Thu May 06, 2010 8:34 am |
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| Overhead lighting is the worst, it shows up every flaw. Lighting from behind is most flattering. |
Agree, because overhead lighting casts a downward shadow under the sags/folds etc. Lighting from under your face or directly in front is much more flattering. This is why when taking pictures, sometimes the photographer asks you to tilt your face upwards a little. |
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Thu May 06, 2010 10:48 am |
I am planning a permanent solution to this problem - a cheeklift.
BF |
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Thu May 06, 2010 11:03 am |
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I am planning a permanent solution to this problem - a cheeklift.
BF |
What exactly is a "cheek lift?" Are you going to use fillers or is this a surgical procedure?
Thanks! |
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Fri May 07, 2010 6:00 pm |
| RickR wrote: |
Hello
I was wondering if it is just me or does the sagging around the nasolabial folds looks more prominent from a distance or with certain types of lighting? Same thing with bags and dark circles under eyes.
It seems like direct lighting (like in front of a sink mirror) is very misleading - and so are photos taken with a flash - everything looks nice and smooth - no folds, no bags under eyes.
And then, you look at yourself in a mirror from a distance at a supermarket or a gym or a store window or something, you go "is that me??" The folds and the bags suddenly seem more pronounced from a distance.
Pictures with a flash - look good. And so do pictures taken without a flash in very bright light - like sunlight. However, when the Flash is turned off (while the lighting is artificial but still good), the picture comes out bright enough and the nasolabial folds and the bags and dark circles look more pronounced.
I am wondering - maybe it is normal for people of all ages to have such folds? I haven't stared at people and I am not sure what is normal when it comes to nasolabial folds... |
my 2 cents is that as you age, your skin sags over the NL folds, and your eyes are more sunken, so when there's light on your face, no shadow is created, and you don't see the sagging or drooping of skin. When you're looking from afar or dimmed light though, the sagging and drooping skin creates shadow which then makes everything look terrible. |
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havana8
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Sun May 09, 2010 10:13 am |
| A pox on fluorescent over head lighting everywhere! I hate going in to the drug store because the mirrors in there make me look ten years older and like I have become a zombie. I hate having to wonder about lighting in different locations - makes me feel like a stage manager... |
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Sun May 09, 2010 5:12 pm |
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| A pox on fluorescent over head lighting everywhere! I hate going in to the drug store because the mirrors in there make me look ten years older and like I have become a zombie. I hate having to wonder about lighting in different locations - makes me feel like a stage manager... |
The worst lighting is in hairdressing salons - this has been discussed before on other threads, I think I even started a thread on it. But why they don't have flattering lighting I've no idea. I stopped going to the hairdressers simply because it was too depressing sitting there looking at myself! They should have a bank of lighting around the mirrors - similar to the lighting that actors have when they apply their makeup. |
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Mon May 10, 2010 9:36 am |
I totally agree about the lighting at my hair-dressers as well!!
They have the walls painted an awful grey-black, than bright flourescent lights high up, it is brutal!! |
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Mon May 10, 2010 2:26 pm |
| That is so true Keliu and lipglossdoll! I keep putting off going to the hairdresser even though I have the cash on hand - my hair is down my back and really needs a trim, but I hate how I feel while I am there. It is awful - why make customers feel worse? To sell products to desperate customers? |
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Mon May 10, 2010 9:11 pm |
| has anyone ever noticed that the lighting in the dressing room at most department stores is really bad and the mirrors are worse? The mirrors make me look fatter than normal (seriously!) and the lighting makes me look 19 yrs older. |
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Mon May 10, 2010 9:37 pm |
I cannot tell you how grateful I am that I am horribly nearsighted. I always wear my glasses instead of my contact lenses when I'm getting my hair cut, and I take them off as soon as I sit down. Instead of having to stare at every mote of unbeauty, I gaze at a soft blur. At the end the stylist hands me a mirror so I can get the full view and I agree the back looks terrific. (What the heck...it's too late by that point anyway.) My husband had laser surgery last year and his vision is perfect, poor fellow. The older I get, the more I appreciate being half-blind.
P.S. Same technique works for clothes shopping. I simply don't understand why stores, even the high-end ones, put such unflattering lighting in their dressing rooms. |
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Mon May 10, 2010 9:44 pm |
| hermosa, i wonder the same thing! I thought that dressing room would have a mirror that makes you look slender, so every clothes you try on will look nice on you, and you'd want to buy them all. I have put away many clothes I tried on because they looked fat on me. At my own home, I have two mirrors that make me look fat. Thank god I have one that doesn't do that, so I can check to see how I look without wanting to cry every time. |
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Tue May 11, 2010 8:43 am |
true story: I have noticed the differences between mirrors and lighting effects, etc.
that said - the worst I ever experienced was in a consult with a local, well known PS.
He handed me a hand mirror. I took one look in it and nearly threw it on the floor! Never have I seen so many wrinkles and flaws and so much sagging.
Call me crazy, but I swear it was a mirror designed to make you run toward procedures.
I got home, checked out 3 mirrors I own - no issues.
Like I said, call me crazy...
BF |
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