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Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:19 am      Reply with quote
I had a PS consult last week and he said he could soften my jowls, corners at mouth, and nasolabial area with juvederm injections. I don't want the filler to make my face look puffy. Is this a good idea? I was thinking about thermage until I read the posts here. Also, are glycolic peels helpful and safe? My skin is in pretty good shape. I am 62, but have been told I look younger.

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Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:47 am      Reply with quote
I have found injectables to be great. Some woman get over injected and they can look puffy. Like with anything good..some think more is even better and they end up looking strange.
I bet you will be very pleased by having some put in your upper cheeks, which will lift your lower face...and it can also be used to fill in marionette lines and folds along the nose.
The results are instant and most people won't even notice it...just that you look better. But it won't totally lift saggy jowls.

In my experience...I'd rather have any laser treatment before injectables..because I think they break down the filler.

AS for skin texture..that also adds to youthfulness. Retin A works best for me...really changes old skin to young skin. Glycolic works wonders for many...it makes my skin too red. But I'd explore those options if I were you.

I read once that is what inspired Dr. Obaji to create his line..that women were getting face lifts but still looked older because the texture of their skin was old. So changing that is just as important as keeping sag and wrinkles under control.

Good luck and enjoy your new look!
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Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:59 am      Reply with quote
It is really hard to get puffy from a hyluronic acid filler, especially if you are planning to inject it in so many areas. It is about $500 per syringe plus tax, and you need more than one or two injected at the same time to see a result in general even in one area, but if you are having it spread in many areas, you will need even more...

I love HA fillers, I wish they were cheaper though...
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Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:37 am      Reply with quote
canlane wrote:
I had a PS consult last week and he said he could soften my jowls, corners at mouth, and nasolabial area with juvederm injections. I don't want the filler to make my face look puffy. Is this a good idea? I was thinking about thermage until I read the posts here. Also, are glycolic peels helpful and safe? My skin is in pretty good shape. I am 62, but have been told I look younger.


I've been researching Thermage. One thing about Thermage is that in recent years they have upgrade the tips/machine. So it seems to be more effective then it use to be. But so much of info/reviews out there are for the old machine so it can be hard to find info from those who have treatments done with the newer machine. Also even recently some people may not even know if they got treated with the old or new (since the old machines are still out there).

I think fillers are a good option and you wont look puffy. Peels wont help with jowls.
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canlane wrote:
I had a PS consult last week and he said he could soften my jowls, corners at mouth, and nasolabial area with juvederm injections. I don't want the filler to make my face look puffy. Is this a good idea? I was thinking about thermage until I read the posts here. Also, are glycolic peels helpful and safe? My skin is in pretty good shape. I am 62, but have been told I look younger.


I've been researching Thermage. One thing about Thermage is that in recent years they have upgrade the tips/machine. So it seems to be more effective then it use to be. But so much of info/reviews out there are for the old machine so it can be hard to find info from those who have treatments done with the newer machine. Also even recently some people may not even know if they got treated with the old or new (since the old machines are still out there).

I think fillers are a good option and you wont look puffy. Peels wont help with jowls.


I agree that most people don't look puffy because you'd have to buy several syringes of filler for that and have someone willing to let you go overboard. Both hard to achieve. Yet, I just had a consult with a sales rep from Sona Med Spa who was overfilled...and mentioned she was getting more. I really wanted to tell her please don't..but wasn't my place. Also..I see over filled lips all the time.
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Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:27 am      Reply with quote
I've just started getting some slackness around the lower corners of my mouth like Jackie Bisset's (she's 66 in this photo!)
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1533185280/nm0000302

Would just filling the nasolabial folds and marionette lines automatically take up some volume? Mine hasn't progressed as far as Bisset's but it's headed in that direction!
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I've had filler in my marionette lines recently and haven't had a very good result. I have Tyndall effect and the filler has settled a bit lumpy. I guess it's just luck of the draw. Confused
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PosyLee wrote:
I've had filler in my marionette lines recently and haven't had a very good result. I have Tyndall effect and the filler has settled a bit lumpy. I guess it's just luck of the draw. Confused


Besides the "bumps" I had another interesting side effect. Since your skin naturally sags over time I have discovered that the injection area has stayed "plumper" than the area around it (which is beginning to fall). It's not obvious to anyone but me (I'm told) but it sure bothers me. My doctor suggested that I could be injected beside the lines where the sagging is happening but in my estimation they would eventually have to do my entire face.
I don't know if it was Juvederm that I had, but it was a couple of years ago and I'm hoping that it soon starts to dissipate. Maybe something new will come along and I will try again - but only when the old stuff has evaporated!

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Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:15 am      Reply with quote
SoftSkin wrote:
I've just started getting some slackness around the lower corners of my mouth like Jackie Bisset's (she's 66 in this photo!)
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1533185280/nm0000302

Would just filling the nasolabial folds and marionette lines automatically take up some volume? Mine hasn't progressed as far as Bisset's but it's headed in that direction!


I guess that I'm coming into an time of acceptance Sad - Jacqueline Bisset looks pretty good to me. She IS 66!!!! I think that we can do the best that we can with what we have to work with. Your genetic make up plays a huge part of this aging process. I would love to have back some of the $$$$$$ that I have spent on creams, serums, treatments, etc but c'est la vie. I am continuing to try to keep what is inevitable at bay but with a different outlook than when I was in my 30's and 40's.
Fillers are good and at some point I'll probably give them another go but my all time fav for improvement has been Botox - but that has been in my forehead/eye area. Wow.

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Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:29 am      Reply with quote
PosyLee,

Hyluronic Fillers shouldn't give any bumps (after initial swelling for max a week, it settles down into a smooth surface.

Radiasse or other fillers can give lumps.


RuthMarion,

I would like to know what you had, because you are saying "it was a couple of years ago and I'm hoping that it soon starts to dissipate". Wow, it is holding on for so long!!! I would definitely love to know what lasts for so long Shock

In your case, it might be that the type of the filler wasn't right for the area chosen for injection. The thicker fillers are best for the jaws and outer cheeks, but not for NL or lip area.
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Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:41 am      Reply with quote
Well I saw the doctor again yesterday and she dissolved the Perlane in the marionette lines. The Tyndall effect has disappeared but I now have a huge bruise. Sad She is going to try again in a few weeks with a softer filler so we'll see how that goes.
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