Kiehls - Creamy Eye Treatment with Avocado. DIY anyone?
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Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:11 pm

Hi all!

I was wondering if there was a DIY avocado eye cream. I absolutely LOVE Kiehls, but it's very $$ because I LOVE to use it on my entire face!

I'm hoping for a DIY so I can use it without the guilt!

The first ingredient is shea butter! (wow just saw that!) Avocado oil is #9 on the ingredient list (1/4 way down)!! I also just realized it has 5 "paraben" ingredients at the end of the list.

I tried applying raw avocado to my skin, but I hate the "film" afterwards. Also, my skin doesn't seem the absorb as much oil as the eye cream.

Thanks! <3

Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:22 pm

Hi

I'm afraid to copy the cream is going to be difficult as it needs emulsifying so its a complicated process and needs to be done in a certain way and you would need to buy equipment etc.

If you really want to give it a go then you would need to buy the following from somewhere like lotioncrafter:-

water, shea butter, glycerin, polawax, castor oil, sodium pca, avocado oil, cetyl alcohol, liquid germall plus, vitamin E.

let me know if you want to pursue it and I'll give you more info on how to actually make it as this forum doesn't allow you to post weblinks

Good luck

Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:28 pm

Thank you so much for responding!

Too bad it's hard to copy as I really do love it in the winter months...

free skin care · Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:52 pm

Not hard, depends what you want it to feel like.

Water, Butyrospermum Parkii/Shea Butter, Butylene Glycol, Tridecyl Stearate, Isodecyl Salicylate, PEG-30 Dipolyhydroxystearate, Tridecyl Trimellitate, Persea Gratissima/Avocado Oil, Isocetyl Stearoyl Stearate, Propylene Glycol, Dipentaerythrityl Hexacaprylate/Hexacaprate, Sorbitan Sesquioleate, Magnesium Sulfate, Phenoxyethanol, Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Sodium PCA, Ozokerite, Methylparaben, Tocopheryl Acetate, Disodium EDTA, Isopropyl Palmitate, Copper PCA, Ethylparaben, Butylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Propylparaben, Zea Mays/Corn Oil, CI 75130/Beta-Carotene

Water, Shea, Avocado,an Algae extract, Lecithin powder, Vitamin E in powder form improves the slip , Dex panthenol[3%} and about 5% ewax, or not. Could use Hyaluronic acid as well.

If you go here and plug in the % of what you want in your cream...you should be set.

Lecithin powder 5-10% is an excellent emulsifier if you pair it up with Polysorbate 80 at 2%.

You can make something much nicer with far more benefits to the skin in short.

free skin care · Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:34 pm

I agree that making your own version of this is very easy. A lot of those ingredients are only there for slip and feel and to be honest I've made much simpler creams which are are far more effective. The major hydrant in this creme is butylene glycol for which you could substitute hyaluronic acid, a very easy to work with medium as it's water soluble. I also agree with DragonN about using sea kelp ferment. I'm really not convinced it does anything for the skin apart from soothing it, but it does improve the feel of creams out of sight. If you are after light, mon-greasy feel then SKF is your ticket. I've made creams without SKF and they usually feel a lot heavier and greasy.

In terms of equipment all you need is a milkshake cup, stick mixer and a gram scale.

I wouldn't bother with the red turkey oil at all. Hydrogenated oils don't benefit the skin, they just assist with emulsification. The only emulsifier I use is a standard e-wax, which can be sourced for a few dollars.

For an eye cream keep the avocado oil content below 5% of the entire formulation. It's a very thick and heavy oil that makes creams greasy. I would be surprised if Kiehls contains more than 3% avocado oil.

free skin care · Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:18 pm

DragoN wrote:

Lecithin powder 5-10% is an excellent emulsifier if you pair it up with Polysorbate 80 at 2%.

so liquid lecithin is not as good? Also, which one do yu prefer, soy or egg lecithin? Will the lecithin powder dissolve in the cream at room temperature or do I need to heat it? Thank so much!

free skin care · Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:44 am

Have to agree with Notmenotyou, but one point...algae extracts, SKB, Sea emollient, do more than skin soothing. Fucoidan inhibits UVB-induced MMP-1 promoter expression and down regulation of type I procollagen synthesis in human skin fibroblasts

daler, I rather like and prefer egg lecithin. However it's not for everybody. If you hate eggs...don't bother. It has a slight scent, which is easily covered by Frankincense EO. The cream is thick, but light almost a mousse. However, that is always mixed with an algae extract so..66% phosphatidylcholine. A natural emulsifier and really is lovely. I like both the powder forms leaps and bounds over the liquid.

free skin care · Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:49 am

Thank you DragoN! I have eggs for breakfast almost every day so no problem; I was already so impressed with the liquid lecithin, so now I am going to try the powder form for sure....

free skin care · Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:29 pm

so I just made a face emulsion, I used lecithin at 3% and polysorbate 80 at 3% also instead of 2% by mistake! Is it going to irritate my skin.. I can really smell poly80 from the emulsion, it's kind of very strong smell, I can cover it up with some essential oil but I was wondering if the 3% poly80 could be harmful... thank you

free skin care · Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:00 am

Daler,
We eat about 20 lbs of Poly80 a year without even realizing it. Should be fine.

free skin care · Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:20 am

daler wrote:

so I just made a face emulsion, I used lecithin at 3% and polysorbate 80 at 3% also instead of 2% by mistake! Is it going to irritate my skin.. I can really smell poly80 from the emulsion, it's kind of very strong smell, I can cover it up with some essential oil but I was wondering if the 3% poly80 could be harmful... thank you

Poly80 is a very innocuous thing but I just dont like it as an emulsifying agent. I used it at 5% in a cleansing oil and found it rather harsh on my skin, like a surfactant. I have fine skin without much natural oil and this ingredient didnt go well with it. But it is in about 80% of everything we can buy off the shelf.

free skin care · Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:12 am

Thank you for your replies but I had to throw that stuff! the smell was just so horrible! And yes, I see poly 80 in so much stuff we eat, I was not able to find heavy cream without it from the supermarket!

Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:44 pm

First time contributing here...I've been using a riff of a recipe on the asonomagarden wordpress blog for my eye cream. Can't link to it, but you can probably track it down if you want to see the source. It works beautifully for the area under my eyes. I haven't used the Kiehl's to compare, but the recipe is very short on the ingredient list and the recipe has the basics of the Kiehls that provide the benefits (in my opinion). The only thing I added to the original recipe is the Carrot EO. It's taken me a while to use the batch so I haven't experimented with other additions, but really, it has worked so well for me that I won't mess with it much...maybe add some Blackcurrant Seed Oil in place of the Avocado, but really, this works as is:

2 oz Shea Butter
.45 oz Avocado Oil
4 Vitamin E tablets (or .025 oz)
A few drops of Carrot Essential Oil

Melt the Shea Butter slowly in a double boiler. A pyrex cup in a small pan of simmering water works. Add the Avocado Oil after the butter is melted. After they are melted together, take the mixture off the heat and let it begin to cool. Then add the Vitamin E and any essential oil you use. Let it cool to room temp. Place the mixture, in the cup/bowl, in an ice water bath. Use a hand or electric whisk and whisk away until it looks like creamy icing. If you're like me you might consider eating it, it will look so good. Package it up and pat it on like any commercial product. I've used this for weeks without any millia appearing. And no issues with eye makeup migrating either.

I don't keep it in the fridge...it does not contain water and as a whipped butter keeps well in the bathroom, for me anyway.

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:16 pm

Thank you MelC - I've tried this and it works great AND I didn't have to buy any extra ingredients (that I end up rarely using). Perfect - I found a little dab will do ya. Cheers, Bess

Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:01 am

You're welcome Bessie.

Also, I just realized re-reading my ingredient list that I wasn't specific about the Carrot Essential Oil...I used Carrot Seed Essential Oil. I imagine that Carrot Oil would work too, with similar skin benefits, but it has more colour and may not produce what people are looking for in a cream.

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