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Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:38 pm  |
hi, I have noticed that my skin has been getting drier when I am not wearing moisturizer. I am using the ambrosia deluxe cream but I find that as time goes by I need to reaply it more during the day, and when I am not moisturized, My skin is dryer than before. Could I be over moisturizing and my skin has stopped producing moisture on it's own? or DO you think that I need to exfoliate more? I have very thin pale, dry skin that can be prone to broken capillaries. I am 28.
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:46 pm |
I have dry skin too and I exfoliate once in about 10 days for fear of drying my skin.
However, due to laziness and forgetfulness, I may forget but find that some how, my skin seems not to respond to whatever I put on it. That's when I remember that it's time for exfoliation. It takes away the top layer of dead skin cells and enables your treatment creams to get to the skin proper. Sometimes, right after I exfoliate, my skin does look more radiant and moisturized.
I noticed that for a good "physical" exfoliator works better in this instance - like a good scrub - I like to use Clarin's Doux Peeling and I know Dermalogica's Microfoliant is popular here. I think Peter Thomas Roth's Buffing Beads is quite nice too.
However, I find Clarin's the least drying - you basically slather a thick layer and let it dry. Then you rub the layer off with your fingers, taking off the top layer of "old" skin too. Feels very clean...Hmm, speaking about this, I think it's time for my scrubbing tonite... 
HTH
Jenny |
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:17 pm |
thnks for the info  I have not found an exfoliator that works for me yet. I find the ones I have used are too scratchy and just irritate my skin, which leaves it drier. At the same time I know that I need to exfoliate because the surface skin is just dead and parched. I guess I need something that exfoliates gently, yet effectively. Maybe a peel? Any thoughts? |
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:20 pm |
| does the clarins do a good job of exfoliating? I don't have flakes of skin, just the whole solid top layers are parched and need to go, can an exfoliator do that? |
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:01 am |
Petu, take care of your skin and treat it kindly especially if you are prone to sensitive cheeks. If your skin is dry change to a different moisturiser perhaps gentle soothing cream by decleor and try their photopeel its much gentler than an exfloiant. If you feel the need to exfoliate then perhaps do not do your cheeks.
I was told that from time to time our skin needs a change of moisturiser and the only reason that I recommend these products is that I have tried them. I also use a SPF the summer and never use water on my face. |
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:15 am |
hi petu
I think Lola makes sense in that it is important to be gentle with your skin. I would try a gentle enzyme exfoliant rather than a physical scrub. AHA and BHA are good, but use them with caution! It may be better to use them in a cleanser type thing than a peel. Either way, I would avoid anything over 8%. Aslo do you use anything with retin-a or retinol? That can dry the skin and thin it. Emu oil is good for deep moisturisation too.  |
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:12 am |
| I thought Retin-A is supposed to make the skin thicker. |
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:31 am |
I'm with guapagirl re: the enzyme route for exfoliating....it's wonderful! I've also used the clarins "gentle peel" and it's very effective -- I just hate the way you have to use it --having to put it on, then wait, then gently rub it off with my fingers -- it works but I find it too time-consuming....Cellex C has a "rub-off" as well that is excellent - but it too, is too time-consuming for my taste....Re: the retinol thinning the skin  YIKES! I, too, thought that it was supposed to help thicken the skin!! |
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:49 am |
I don't quite get it, but while it is supposed to increase collagen production, retinol also thins the outer layer  Maybe I'm getting my science mixed up? It definately dries the skin though |
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:59 am |
thanks for all the great advice I am not using retinol, so that is not a concern
( tried it once, never again). It sounds like an enzyme exfoliator is the way to go, or would that cause broken capillaries? Do any of you know of some good enzyme exfoliators, is that what the clarins is? Also, Is it possible that I need to cut back on the moisturizing so my skin can start producing it's own again? It's getting to the point of being kind of crinkly it is so dry sorry for all the questions. I appreciate any advice you all have |
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:21 pm |
The Clarins gentle peel is not an enzyme treatment -- but it's still great -- it really is - as long as the application process doesn't annoy you - and it sure does leave my skin feeling soft...who makes the ambrosia cream you are currently using? I'm not familiar with it  Re: enzyme treatments -- there are a zillion-and-one of them out there! My favourite ----oh, god, I'm so embarrased to tell you, given all the gurus on this board but.....what the heck - it's by Serious Skincare and it's called "A-facial meringue exfoliating mask" -- I get superb results with it - and no irritation whatsoever! |
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Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:30 am |
Petu
If you decide at some point to try a physical exfoliant, you might try Skin Prep Scrub by Dermoligica. It has cornmeal and is grainy, but my skin always feels smooth and nice after I use it. I also often mix it in with my cleanser and it is less grainy that way. My skin runs in the normal to dry range, more dry this time of year, and the occasional use of this always leaves my face smooth and soft. Just a thought if you decide to try the physical route.
Also do you get your Ambrosia from Rosa y Fruta? If so, I know that Elizabeth has an exfoliant like product in her line. The Nectar de Rosa I believe. I have never tried it, but it is supposed to remove dead skin like an exfoliant and it doesn't sound like it is harsh on the skin. The Nectar might be a really good choice if your skin is very dry. I emailed Elizabeth many times before I made an order looking for information on her products and advice as to which would suit my skin the best. She always answers and is very helpful. |
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Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:54 am |
| Pudoodles wrote: |
| My favourite ----oh, god, I'm so embarrased to tell you, given all the gurus on this board but.....what the heck - it's by Serious Skincare and it's called "A-facial meringue exfoliating mask" -- I get superb results with it - and no irritation whatsoever! |
I admit that I am not a guru here either; rather, I would consider myself an apprentice because I am always months behind everyone else in getting the raved about products, and I have little knowledge about skincare (besides the basics). But,
Don't be embarrassed If it works for you, then that is great. I like a bunch of products from higher and lower end brands, and I personally loved the Serious Skin Care Glycolic Cleanser. I stopped using it because I didn't like dealing with the shopping channels. I believe that every line has its great (and not so great) products, and I buy whatever works 
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Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:39 am |
My skin is quite dry and sensitive but I have used Clarins Doux Peeling (which is really just a scrub) with no side effects at all. I have also used a glycolic cleanser - MDF's cleanser for sensitive skin is quite good. It leaves your skin very clean. However, I think a once in a while good scrub does wonders.
That is why I subscribe to using both "physical" and "chemical" cleansers cos they complement each other if used appropriately.
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jenny |
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Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:37 am |
 The clarins doux peeling is, indeed, an exfoliator but from what I understand (and on how I've used it) it is not supposed to be used the way one would traditionally use a scrub. It sits like a mask on the skin for a few minutes - followed by a rolling action of the fingers over the skin to remove it - much like the effect of an eraser on paper......It's great for Jenny that alternating between scrubbing and enzymatic methods of exfoliation yields great results but it definitely depends on your skin....I, at 40 wouldn't scrub my skin if you paid me but again, that's just me..my skin is delicate (fair, blue-eyed with some broken capillaries)so I think it all just depends.... |
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Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:44 am |
Jenny wrote:
However, I find Clarin's the least drying - you basically slather a thick layer and let it dry. Then you rub the layer off with your fingers, taking off the top layer of "old" skin too. Feels very clean...Hmm, speaking about this, I think it's time for my scrubbing tonite...
OOPS!  I understand what you were talking about Jenny, when you referred to the Doux Peeling as a "scrub".... |
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Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:29 pm |
I think I will try the clarins, and/or an enzyme exfoliator. I have a sample coming to me from janson beckett of the renewed radiance exfoliant, I don't even know what kind that is. Also, I have seen good reviews on this site about epidermx, I don't know if that would be too harsh for my skin though, it is also very expensive  Thanks for all the advice |
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:47 am |
Hi Petu
I was just reading your posts in another thread. It just struck me that your skin could be dehydrated rather than dry. You may want to ask for a sample of either Cellex C or Skinceuticals' B5 hydrating serum. It works well for my dry dehydrated skin.
HTH
Jenny
Oh, drinking more water helps...(I am not nagging  ) |
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:02 am |
Actually Retinol is supposed to be good for producing more oil in the skin. And I think that's right because it saved my face in Beijing, which is the dryest city on earth in Winter apparantly.
Retin A dries up oil production, which is one of the reasons why it's good for people who get acne.
They're related but not the same and strangely have opposite effects.
There's a proper explanation, which goes completely over my head, on this page under the 'retinol in squalene' section.
http://www.skinbio.com/moisturizers.html
Molly |
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:24 am |
| petu wrote: |
| It sounds like an enzyme exfoliator is the way to go, or would that cause broken capillaries? Do any of you know of some good enzyme exfoliators, is that what the clarins is? |
Arbonne Thermal Infusion Enzyme Mask is good. However my fave (and the gentlest I've tried) is the Dermalogica Daily Microfoliant. It's amazing!! |
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:36 am |
| thanks everyone! Well this gives me a few to try out. looks Like I'll be busy |
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