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Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:39 am      Reply with quote
I'm searching for people who had positive results from using CPs for their sagging eyelids.
I know there was this woman called Foxe and she has written that she could stay away from an upper-bleph, because of the Copper Peptides.
So, maybe there are more who wants to share their expierences? Please let me know Very Happy
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Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:48 pm      Reply with quote
Yep - that's me that wrote about my nearly getting an upper bleph done. CPs greatly improved the texture of my upper eye-lids and well as firming them up. I've read of many others saying the CPs have firmed up their skin as well, so I know I'm not the only one. There are also those who've had bad experiences w/ CPs, but I've found that the bad experiences are usually from using CPs too fast (they should be introduced s-l-o-w-l-y) or too much, too soon.

Hopefully others with good experience on their eyelids will chime in!

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Foxe, I have a question... I caused some deep skin discoloration on my left check because I tried to burn off a keratoses using salicylic and FG hydrogen peroxide.... The "wound" I created has healed but there is dark discoloration about the size of a quarter.

I actually ordered the acne clearing kit from Skin Biology to help clear up my perioral dermatitis (omg another subject that is really causing me grief) and thought I'd use the cps on my dark spot.

But all that comes in the kit is Super Cop, along with other things with salicylic... If I dilute the Super Cop, will that be ok to use all over my face? I realize now I should have started with the CP Serum, but I don't want to return my order and wait out the new one.... Thoughts?

Oh, and if cps help with the eyes, I'm all for it! Do I apply to my eyelids?

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Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:22 pm      Reply with quote
Foxe, another question for you, if you please...which CP should a person use for the eyes if they're new to CPs? If you could recommend one that would not break the bank, I'd appreciate it. Since joining here, I've been spending way too much money. Embarassed
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:57 pm      Reply with quote
I think my eyelid skin is less crepey since using CPs.
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:55 pm      Reply with quote
Luminosity- Super Cop is too strong to use all over your face - especially if you're new to CPs. It is perfect for some spot treating, though, and you should use it on that spot you've mentioned.

For all over, it's better to start with something like the CP Serum. You can dilute it easily in the beginning until your skin is adjusted to it. Then, you can introduce stronger CPs after your skin is use to the weaker ones.

But, for scar treatment, it is OK to go with the stronger ones, but to use them as spot treatments instead.

The CP Serum is not expensive at all. You could easily add that to your regime at a low cost.

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Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:03 pm      Reply with quote
sandooch wrote:
Foxe, another question for you, if you please...which CP should a person use for the eyes if they're new to CPs? If you could recommend one that would not break the bank, I'd appreciate it. Since joining here, I've been spending way too much money. Embarassed


LOL - It's way too easy to spend the $$ on this site!!

A good eye cream from Skin Biology is their Night Eyes cream. Start out with the Premier version and then move up to the regular version. These are both pretty mild CPs and are not too expensive (around $25, I think).

The Skin Signals Cream also makes a nice eye cream, but it's more expensive(and also, a lot stronger).

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Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:17 pm      Reply with quote
Oh my I have been out of the CP loop. I did not realize there is a skin signals eye cream . I'm still using skin signals and or GHK cream a few nights a week. I haven't been on the site in a very long while. I love Dr. Pickart's mission for skin improvement and his devotion to getting the message out about the value of Copper Peptides.

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Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:22 pm      Reply with quote
Thank you Foxe... Because I have this perioral dermatitis, I have been spending way too much on "solutions." I actually called Skin Biology to find out if I could dilute the Super Cop since I later learned I really should have started out with that one... I was advised I could probably dilute but errrr. It's so confusing.

I don't want to spend more money if possible for at least a little while! What I did today was use three drops of it, diluted with some water in the palm of my hand. Then I put on some emu oil...

Will give it a little time and only do one application a day until acclimated.

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Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:21 am      Reply with quote
sister sweets wrote:
Oh my I have been out of the CP loop. I did not realize there is a skin signals eye cream .


Hi Sis, you're not out of the loop. There is no SS Eye Cream. Foxe meant that SS cream can be used as an eye cream.
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Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:37 am      Reply with quote
Still wondering if you all are applying the cp directly to your eyelids... and without it getting into your eyes?

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Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:50 pm      Reply with quote
Luminosity - it sounds like you have a serum and not a cream, is that right? If so, you probably have the Super CP Serum, not the Super Cop Cream.

The Super Cop Cream is quite a bit stronger than the Super CP Serum. The serums are also easier to dilute than the creams, so if you have the serum, that's a good one to start with (just dilute, dilute)

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Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:52 pm      Reply with quote
Luminosity wrote:
Still wondering if you all are applying the cp directly to your eyelids... and without it getting into your eyes?


I use a cream so it doesn't get into my eyes like the serums would. You can apply the serums (diluted alot) to your eyes, just do so very lightly and it should dry before getting anywhere.

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foxe wrote:
Luminosity - it sounds like you have a serum and not a cream, is that right? If so, you probably have the Super CP Serum, not the Super Cop Cream.

The Super Cop Cream is quite a bit stronger than the Super CP Serum. The serums are also easier to dilute than the creams, so if you have the serum, that's a good one to start with (just dilute, dilute)


Oh, yes, you're right... I do have the serum (and actually the Super Cop cream as that came in the kit). On the Skin Biology website, it said you could apply the Super Cop Cream sparingly to specific spots ... But now I'm wondering why they would say that without a big fat warning to wait until one's skin is first conditioned by cp use.

I mean, this kit is sold as an acne scar reduction kit... presumably to new customers wanting a trial run of their products. It's interesting that they would say you could use such strong products directly on unprepared skin.

And doubly weird because everywhere else on the website it says to go slowly! Oh well, I will just dilute, dilute... How long do you think I should dilute until I can use the Super CP serum full strength? And what is your opinion regarding the Super Cop 2x cream? I have that horrible dark spot that this is supposed to treat but now I wonder if I should wait for a few weeks first?

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Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:18 pm      Reply with quote
Luminosity wrote:

Oh, yes, you're right... I do have the serum (and actually the Super Cop cream as that came in the kit). On the Skin Biology website, it said you could apply the Super Cop Cream sparingly to specific spots ... But now I'm wondering why they would say that without a big fat warning to wait until one's skin is first conditioned by cp use.

I mean, this kit is sold as an acne scar reduction kit... presumably to new customers wanting a trial run of their products. It's interesting that they would say you could use such strong products directly on unprepared skin.

And doubly weird because everywhere else on the website it says to go slowly! Oh well, I will just dilute, dilute... How long do you think I should dilute until I can use the Super CP serum full strength? And what is your opinion regarding the Super Cop 2x cream? I have that horrible dark spot that this is supposed to treat but now I wonder if I should wait for a few weeks first?


When SB says you can 'spot' treat with the stronger ones, they mean to treat scars like acne scars and the like (like maybe a tough wrinkle??). It's different treating a scar than normal skin. scar tissue is tougher, so go ahead and 'spot' treat a scar tissue with the strong CPs.

My opinion on the SC2X is very high. But, I respect it and ONLY use it for spot treating myself (even though I've used CPs for years and my skin is very adjusted to them). If I overdo the spreading of SC2X and get it over skin not accustomed to it, the skin will itch (which is something my skin had done with CPs when it wasn't use to them - usually anytime I introduced a stronger CP) But, the SC2X is really good at scar remodeling.

For that dark spot you have, start with the weaker (but still strong) Super CP Serum (diluted) for a week or so, then go a little stronger on the ratio of CP:water for another week, then try it full strength. You should see rapid healing on the spot. Just don't go too fast in the beginning. If the spot isn't gone by then, introduce the SC2X to the mix.

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Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:34 pm      Reply with quote
Thank you, Foxe... Sounds like a good plan. I thought it might take a month or more so this seems very doable.

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foxe wrote:
sandooch wrote:
Foxe, another question for you, if you please...which CP should a person use for the eyes if they're new to CPs? If you could recommend one that would not break the bank, I'd appreciate it. Since joining here, I've been spending way too much money. Embarassed


LOL - It's way too easy to spend the $$ on this site!!

A good eye cream from Skin Biology is their Night Eyes cream. Start out with the Premier version and then move up to the regular version. These are both pretty mild CPs and are not too expensive (around $25, I think).

The Skin Signals Cream also makes a nice eye cream, but it's more expensive(and also, a lot stronger).


Oops...didn't see your reply to me until now. Thank you so much. I put it on my list to get after I run out of the eye cream I have now. DH wouldn't be too thilled to know I bought another one so soon after the first. Wink
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Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:15 am      Reply with quote
hi Foxe,

Hope you're still watching this thread. I'm excited that CPs helped your upper eyelids. I've also been contemplating the bleph - not that I want one, but it seems the only way to get rid of the loose skin. I've used CPs on and off - right now Nanci's GHK serum. Is there a thread around where you explain your successful routine - I'm thinking of getting DMAE too ... thanks so much! Lynn

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CPs fixed my eyes and wrecked my pores. Confused
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