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free skin care · Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:15 am

Okay as anyone who knows me, will testify (my hubby included), my hands are the part of me that continues to age. I’m jealous of people like our Kassy who has hands that are so young looking. I saw this on the intern the other days. I do have a prolight, but I’ve not used it sufficiently enough, it takes too long and I never saw much benefit from it. So I’m looking at other things to do. I got a Tua Spa the other day off eba and am thinking of using that, but what else do people do that works and has a result? I read somewhere someone talking about a cream called Egyptian Magic which my son bought me recently as a present, so am really on a mission now to get younger looking hands. I do brush them, but have slacked off a little and am going to start that up again!

Here is the article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2310785/From-waving-air-wearing-gloves-bed-make-hands-look-younger-surgery.html

Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:00 am

Do you have a ReAura? The hands is one of its specific treatment areas. It is by far the best anti aging tool I've ever bought - I know many have the Tria as an alternative and have been equally glowing about it. Superb for age spots in partic.

TheresaMary wrote:

Okay as anyone who knows me, will testify (my hubby included), my hands are the part of me that continues to age. I’m jealous of people like our Kassy who has hands that are so young looking. I saw this on the intern the other days. I do have a prolight, but I’ve not used it sufficiently enough, it takes too long and I never saw much benefit from it. So I’m looking at other things to do. I got a Tua Spa the other day off eba and am thinking of using that, but what else do people do that works and has a result? I read somewhere someone talking about a cream called Egyptian Magic which my son bought me recently as a present, so am really on a mission now to get younger looking hands. I do brush them, but have slacked off a little and am going to start that up again!

Here is the article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2310785/From-waving-air-wearing-gloves-bed-make-hands-look-younger-surgery.html

free skin care · Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:13 am

I don't but might have to get one now. I don't suffer from age spots but thining skin particularly etc are major things for me

tracey parkes wrote:

Do you have a ReAura? The hands is one of its specific treatment areas. It is by far the best anti aging tool I've ever bought - I know many have the Tria as an alternative and have been equally glowing about it. Superb for age spots in partic.

TheresaMary wrote:

Okay as anyone who knows me, will testify (my hubby included), my hands are the part of me that continues to age. I’m jealous of people like our Kassy who has hands that are so young looking. I saw this on the intern the other days. I do have a prolight, but I’ve not used it sufficiently enough, it takes too long and I never saw much benefit from it. So I’m looking at other things to do. I got a Tua Spa the other day off eba and am thinking of using that, but what else do people do that works and has a result? I read somewhere someone talking about a cream called Egyptian Magic which my son bought me recently as a present, so am really on a mission now to get younger looking hands. I do brush them, but have slacked off a little and am going to start that up again!

Here is the article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2310785/From-waving-air-wearing-gloves-bed-make-hands-look-younger-surgery.html

free skin care · Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:39 am

I have found the best thing for my hands is the Pico Toner microcurrent gloves. After my first two treatments on my hands I was very impressed. I bought the unit for my body and hands and it has ended up being better than my professional microcurrent unit for my face and neck!

free skin care · Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:14 am

Toby - Re: Pico toner ~ do the improvements to the hands come from just wearing the gloves or are there specific hand treatments to do?

free skin care · Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:08 pm

sister sweets wrote:

Toby - Re: Pico toner ~ do the improvements to the hands come from just wearing the gloves or are there specific hand treatments to do?

You do nothing but allow the current to flow on the hands...crazy I know but the skin texture just smooths out and they look way younger. Easy fix but I am sure it must be maintained. I have tried using my professional machine on my hands as well as the Stop and Tria. Tria helps the dkin texture but other than the Pico Toner the others didn't produce a lot of improvement.

free skin care · Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:48 pm

One of the people with hands that don't give away her age is Eva Fraser. You can see a close-up of her hands if you FF to 1:45 in this video to see these amazing 80+ year old hands: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcyRLKq3aZg

Her hand regimen? Vaseline Petroleum Jelly as her hand "moisturizer" (balm) and wearing gloves to protect her hands when doing chores and in both cold and hot weather.

I adopted her idea of using Vaseline because I found lotions would look good on application but left my hands looking wrinkly and dry later on. And I have years of hand-washing clothes while I was in boarding school and doing dishes w/o gloves so my hands have seen better days. Vaseline, however, has redeemed them and I am no longer self-conscious about them. It was Eva who also introduced me to face exercises and to using Vaseline under the eyes and encouraged me to forgo eye creams and in all cases, I'm so glad I took a leaf out of her book.

Need I mention that I think the world of Eva?

ETA: Carolyn Cleaves has massage/exercise for hands on Youtube that wouldn't hurt to add to your moisturizing regimen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCcckjGXNLc

free skin care · Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:39 pm

Thanks Nonie.

free skin care · Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:59 pm

Prevention is better than the cure and lets face it, our hands take plenty of abuse everyday..

Wear rubber gloves for ALL chores around the house, and be religious about it.

Use the same great products on your hands as you do on your face. (Easy and cheap when you DIY, not so much when you use expensive retail products.)

Use skincare devices on the hands too. For me LED and more recently dermaroller.

Here's a really simple (and quite effective) DIY recipe, that's especially nice to apply liberally before beddy-bye.

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?p=526320#526320

And yep, Egyptian Magic is great to incorporate into any routine to care for your hands. I'm not gaga over it straight up, but mixed into a little of another cream for the hands, makes for a nice protective barrier.

free skin care · Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:32 am

Wonderful thank you all and Kassy if I can get my hands looking like hours ill be a happy lady. To y i dont think ive seen yours - but wd you do a before and after with the pico - im going to save for one of those machines (and photoqueen will probably have reviewed it by then).

Hey does anyone do anything unusual with their hands that works that others may not know of?

free skin care · Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:00 am

HI, Everyone, My hands just look awful. My biggest issue is loss of volume due to loss of estrogen and aging. Mad

Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:03 pm

Hi TeresaMary

just a thought, in case it's relevant: do you live in a hard water area? Hard/soft water might have been talked about here already, but for the past few years I've been rinsing off with filtered water after bathing or cleansing face and hands (I'm stuck with hard water, unfortunately!).

I do see an improvement when I've used soft or filtered water and try to carry a bottle of filtered water around with me so I can rinse my hands after washing them at work,etc.

I've recently been trying to follow up the rinsing with a barrier cream (Gloves in a Bottle, at the moment) but don't always manage to do either the rinsing off or the cream - it is a faff!

free skin care · Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:24 pm

I think all things can help like wearing gloves when cleaning, not using too hot water, using Vaseline, etc.. but I really think once you get past age 50....you need to get some kind of help with a device... I'd be interested to know what PQ thinks about the Pico (re: changes to his hands) after he's used it for a while. Smile

free skin care · Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:57 pm

So far after 8 consecutive treatments with Pico Toner I see very (if at all) improvements with the hands - may be the dryness is a bit less, but that is about it.

free skin care · Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:48 pm

Honestly Sigma I think that's a little too soon to see changes in the texture of the skin. I want to say that Toby's had her Pico since December... As she previously mentioned, tone, lift and fullness from microcurrent is something that is built upon over time. So I would think that's the same with texture changes regarding the hands. But Toby, please correct me if I'm wrong about how long you've been using the Pico. Good luck with your Pico; I'm sure you'll be seeing some great results soon!! Smile

free skin care · Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:15 pm

Aprile,

that is what I am hoping for as well - that in time good results will be there for me as well.

free skin care · Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:30 pm

Hi TheresaMary,
Great post!
I have great trouble with my hands due to eczema and I often feel embarrassed when it is really bad. Yet when it is calm or nonexistent I find I can get great benefit out of paraffin treatments they do at beauty parlors. Here is a site that gives instructions for a DIY, never actually tried it myself, but just as I'm posting this I guess I'll try soon!
http://beauty.about.com/od/homemadefacemask1/r/how_to_make_paraffin_wax_treatment_for_hands.htm

So I also use vaseline quite often as it is practically the same, as far as I know, maybe check that out better, here there is an article about vaseline itself:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/113419-benefits-vaseline-petroleum-jelly/

As Nonie mentions Eva Fraser uses vaseline for hands (and under eye), but I also remember reading she did a home made weekly scrub with sugar on her hands, can't remember where I read it.
Anyhow, I would only add to the already given advices:
- Sunscreen when outside whether it is sunny or not. Unless you wear gloves!
- Exfoliate once or twice a week.
- Repeating what Kassy said: Apply actives to hands the same as face -I only use vit. C on hands at the moment, but have used Glycolic Acid for a couple sun brown spots in the evening that worked fine.
- And, as already mentioned by Nonie, I also believe Vaseline is great to lock in the moisture.
HIH, Smile

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free skin care · Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:32 am

With Vaseline though, I know Eva was on this morning (a UK program) and she got heavily criticised for her Vaseline recommendation, as its a petrochem and so is toxic to the body and suffocates the tissue underneath. Any of you who use Vaseline have you seen any adverse effects to it out of interest? There were quite a few other facial exercise experts who came out saying she was wrong. She later wrote something in the press that said she didn't advocate using it nightly and only once in a while and was against using eye creams, so its interesting no. I did see her hands at a Mind Body Spirit talk she gave and she was asked what she did for them and she did say she used caster sugar and soap once a week only, but didn't use handlotions etc. I think a lot of her success is based on genetics though. I mean in her latest dvd she doesn't demonstrate any of the exercises - and I can't help but wonder why. Same with Maggio and Crowley, why if their exercises work so well do they not demo it themselves? Does make you wonder doesn't it (or maybe its just me).

free skin care · Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:59 am

I had the first video Eva did, way back.
I wondered at the time why she didn't demonstrate the exercises herself, but got Marian to pull faces for her.
Perhaps therein lies the answer - Eva didn't want to be seen in public pulling faces.
We all have our little vanities!

free skin care · Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:22 am

I suppose it could be that, but then if you had your vanities why would you plaster your name all over it as a product for example? Is a bit strange if she did that in her first video also?

Holmes wrote:

I had the first video Eva did, way back.
I wondered at the time why she didn't demonstrate the exercises herself, but got Marian to pull faces for her.
Perhaps therein lies the answer - Eva didn't want to be seen in public pulling faces.
We all have our little vanities!

free skin care · Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:21 pm

TheresaMary wrote:

With Vaseline though, I know Eva was on this morning (a UK program) and she got heavily criticised for her Vaseline recommendation, as its a petrochem and so is toxic to the body and suffocates the tissue underneath. Any of you who use Vaseline have you seen any adverse effects to it out of interest? There were quite a few other facial exercise experts who came out saying she was wrong. She later wrote something in the press that said she didn't advocate using it nightly and only once in a while and was against using eye creams, so its interesting no. I did see her hands at a Mind Body Spirit talk she gave and she was asked what she did for them and she did say she used caster sugar and soap once a week only, but didn't use handlotions etc. I think a lot of her success is based on genetics though. I mean in her latest dvd she doesn't demonstrate any of the exercises - and I can't help but wonder why. Same with Maggio and Crowley, why if their exercises work so well do they not demo it themselves? Does make you wonder doesn't it (or maybe its just me).

I have heard that rumor that Vaseline suffocates skin, but my question is, since when did we start breathing through our skin?

Vaseline has been used as a skin balm for years and I personally know at least 3 people between the ages of 50 and 95 who have used Vaseline all their lives and have not had any adverse effects. We were discussing this at work and my coworker said her grandmother has no wrinkle in sight and credits Vaseline for that. I am sure genes have a lot to do with that, but clearly Vaseline didn't hurt her. If Eva has changed her tune, that must have been in the last ten years which means for at least 25 years she trusted Vaseline and used it alone because early in the millennium when I asked about her hands, there was no mention of the exfoliation with sugar.

I also don't buy the crap that petroleum jelly is harmful. Unless you're applying it to the insides of your nostrils or eating it, it just sit on skin. It isn't getting absorbed so I don't get the "danger" in using it and I have no plans of stopping. I think "scientists" with an agenda to sell you something else will always come up with horror stories.

My grandmother died at the age of 95 and never used anything on her body after a bath but Vaseline. So yeah, I'd sooner use something that sits on my skin and can be washed off than something my skin absorbs and which down the road maybe blamed for some condition that develops later.

Holmes wrote:

I had the first video Eva did, way back.
I wondered at the time why she didn't demonstrate the exercises herself, but got Marian to pull faces for her.
Perhaps therein lies the answer - Eva didn't want to be seen in public pulling faces.
We all have our little vanities!

TheresaMary wrote:

I suppose it could be that, but then if you had your vanities why would you plaster your name all over it as a product for example? Is a bit strange if she did that in her first video also?

Holmes wrote:

I had the first video Eva did, way back.
I wondered at the time why she didn't demonstrate the exercises herself, but got Marian to pull faces for her.
Perhaps therein lies the answer - Eva didn't want to be seen in public pulling faces.
We all have our little vanities!

Strangely enough, that she is describing the exercises and not doing them has never bothered me. And yeah Holmes, I totally get not wanting to be seen pulling faces, plus I do like that she is sort of playing the role of guiding the one doing the exercise. I think it works well. Other videos have a voice over while the trainer demonstrates the exercises. In each case, I like the continuity of the video. I think it would bug me if she were talking and stopping to demonstrate. In a way, her video is like the Lotte Berk's Method of Exercise. In the video or book, a different person does the exercise and Lotte Berk gives direction and that never struck me as strange either. All in all, I don't doubt she does the exercises. And I see nothing strange about promoting something you believe in even if you are never seen doing it. (Heck, everyone who knows me will tell you I think the world of Callanetics but you will never see me demonstrating the exercises, but I take credit for introducing many people to the program.) Clearly Eva is proud of her program so has no problem having her name plastered on it, but maybe she just doesn't like to make faces in public--and I don't blame her. I would not want to be seen making faces either. LOL In any case, she does demonstrate some exercises in her Youtibe video so... *shrug*.

free skin care · Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:04 pm

TheresaMary wrote:

With Vaseline though, I know Eva was on this morning (a UK program) and she got heavily criticised for her Vaseline recommendation, as its a petrochem and so is toxic to the body and suffocates the tissue underneath. Any of you who use Vaseline have you seen any adverse effects to it out of interest? There were quite a few other facial exercise experts who came out saying she was wrong. She later wrote something in the press that said she didn't advocate using it nightly and only once in a while and was against using eye creams, so its interesting no. I did see her hands at a Mind Body Spirit talk she gave and she was asked what she did for them and she did say she used caster sugar and soap once a week only, but didn't use handlotions etc. I think a lot of her success is based on genetics though. I mean in her latest dvd she doesn't demonstrate any of the exercises - and I can't help but wonder why. Same with Maggio and Crowley, why if their exercises work so well do they not demo it themselves? Does make you wonder doesn't it (or maybe its just me).

What programme was it? Do you mean she was on this morning at some programme or are you referring to the ITV This Programme of some time ago? I would love to view it, if it is the latest: what date? Thanks.

free skin care · Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:33 pm

TheresaMary wrote:

With Vaseline though,... she got heavily criticised for her Vaseline recommendation, as its a petrochem and so is toxic to the body and suffocates the tissue underneath. Any of you who use Vaseline have you seen any adverse effects to it out of interest? There were quite a few other facial exercise experts who came out saying she was wrong. She later wrote something in the press that said she didn't advocate using it nightly and only once in a while and was against using eye creams, so its interesting no. I did see her hands at a Mind Body Spirit talk she gave and she was asked what she did for them and she did say she used caster sugar and soap once a week only, but didn't use handlotions etc.

So you DID see her hands at a Mind Body Spirit talk... so? Did they look good? In the case of Eva Fraser considering what you've mentioned you have an advantage over others cause you've met her and seen her!!?? I remember you mentioned having some session with her time ago, I remember well because I felt envious!! Laughing

free skin care · Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:03 pm

As for the possible adverse effects of vaseline, I have seen none to state.
It doesn't suffocate my skin, it permits my natural moisture to not evaporate keeping it smooth. As much as I love natural vegetable oils I still wonder what is my skin absorbing from them that may disrupt its normal function or hormonal balance... as after all what my skin is absorbing from these natural oils has not yet been "dissected", so the so called bad mineral oils for me don't sound so bad as they're just keeping my own body moisture in my own skin.
Just to add there are mineral oils recommended for internal use for constipation due to the body's innability to absorb them... The brand used where I live is called "Ordesa", sold in Pharmacy's.

free skin care · Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:17 am

She was on ITV's "This Morning" twice, but I've looked it up online a couple of times to see if it was recorded, and the first part is but not the second part. I felt sorry for her as the idiot presenters were taking the mick out of her, yet they all wanted her advice though. It wasn't that long ago though, but not sure of exact time frame.

ATester wrote:

What programme was it? Do you mean she was on this morning at some programme or are you referring to the ITV This Programme of some time ago? I would love to view it, if it is the latest: what date? Thanks.

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