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Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:23 am  |
Hi
i felt i may have damaged my skin with liz earle skin repair also retin a and aha may have played a part in it. now my skin in unable to absorb any moisturiser meaning any moisturiser i use leaves my skin red, itchy, painful and dry. i have tried cortisone cream, elidel and elomet but useless.
what do i do help??? tried cucumber and honey but still cant. |
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Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:33 am |
| Have you tried CeraVe lotion or cream? CeraVe is supposed to be able to help rebuild damaged skin barriers. If your skin is really dry and damaged you may want to skip the lotion and go right to the cream. |
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Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:46 am |
It sounds like you may want to focus on repairing your skin barrier, and avoid all actives until it is stabilized.
You can try the CeraVe or the Skin Actives Essential Lipid Serum if you prefer an oil. Also make sure any cleansers are non-irritating.
If things don't improve, see your dermatologist. |
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:58 am |
| Perhaps the best is to have a rest. Let skin to rest, don't add other. Just simple moisturizing. |
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Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:14 pm |
| my skin has become SO reactive . I started using avene (I live in japan so the name of the actual moisturiser may differ) but its the one for aggravated extremely dry inflamed skin (extra rich) and it repairs the skins barrier. After only one day I see the difference. I am now on the hunt (posted a new topic) for anti ageing care for super sensitive skin |
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:48 am |
| annachan wrote: |
| my skin has become SO reactive . I started using avene (I live in japan so the name of the actual moisturiser may differ) but its the one for aggravated extremely dry inflamed skin (extra rich) and it repairs the skins barrier. After only one day I see the difference. I am now on the hunt (posted a new topic) for anti ageing care for super sensitive skin |
Annachan, look at the Epionce line. It is focused on reducing inflammation and repairing the skin barrier. I would avoid the Lytic products though, and just look at the Renewal & Fortify products. If you have any questions, post on the Epionce thread, as I am using a number of the products myself. |
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:24 am |
| thanks bethany ...I am uncertain where I can get this fab line though...I live in tokyo....I need to be able to get my paws on products easily enough...(EDS or be able to shop in tokyo) |
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:12 am |
Hi there
thanks for your advice. but the thing is that my skin cannot even tolerate all kinds of moisturisers. i seen a derm in fact he was the one who prescribed me those creams i stated. but still no help. i only use a cleanser and sunscreen. my skin is now clogged and is dry but i cannot use any moisturisers.
anyone in this situation b4? |
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:16 pm |
I have been itching to try some of these hydrating products from this company...I haven't personally tried them yet, but I've heard they make good stuff. I've been looking for something to moiturize my skin during the summer because creams and oils feel too heavy. I want to try one of their hydrating gels, particularly the glacier water one sounds interesting. I've been contemplating putting an order in, but there's so many things I want to try I can't decide what to get.
http://www.gardenofwisdom.com/hydrators.html |
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:17 pm |
Salome_B, there used to be a forum member here who went by Firefox... followed by 4 numbers. She was always on going quite in depth about how she solved her overly sensitive, parched skin issues. I would do a search for her posts and get ready for a lot of reading! It'd be well worth it. I thought she was brilliant, and her explanations and gentle approach help me solve some of my skin issues.
I mention her because I believe that her skin was in pretty much the exact same condition as yours and talked a lot about her process of repairing it.
My hunch is for you to mist your skin as often as possible, either with plant essences or distilled water, but watch it, since I've heard that the evaporation can in fact make it more dry unless you do it right. Maybe pat on sunscreen or aloe vera to "trap" it in after. Have you tried glycerine? I'd only recommend that if you happen to live in a more humid climate. Or any of the moisturizing oils on their own? |
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:49 pm |
While I feel bad for people in this condition, I do feel that most people bring this on themselves. They overdo the actives, over exfoliate, and basically create their own problems by being too aggressive.
Pay attention to what your skin is telling you, and don't let yourself get in this position to begin with. |
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:07 pm |
I used to use claisonis and that made a huge difference...but my machine broke and have to get a new one and my skins gone mad. I think the sonic brush really cleaned the pores (which I find makes the difference to dry reactive skin)
have you tried it? |
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:28 pm |
I would see my dermatologist if i were u  |
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:10 am |
| zoebig wrote: |
| I would see my dermatologist if i were u |
as i mentioned i seen but no help. |
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:14 am |
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Salome_B, there used to be a forum member here who went by Firefox... followed by 4 numbers. She was always on going quite in depth about how she solved her overly sensitive, parched skin issues. I would do a search for her posts and get ready for a lot of reading! It'd be well worth it. I thought she was brilliant, and her explanations and gentle approach help me solve some of my skin issues.
I mention her because I believe that her skin was in pretty much the exact same condition as yours and talked a lot about her process of repairing it.
My hunch is for you to mist your skin as often as possible, either with plant essences or distilled water, but watch it, since I've heard that the evaporation can in fact make it more dry unless you do it right. Maybe pat on sunscreen or aloe vera to "trap" it in after. Have you tried glycerine? I'd only recommend that if you happen to live in a more humid climate. Or any of the moisturizing oils on their own? |
erm all sorts of things. so her nick is firefox? i search that? |
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:26 am |
| Salome_B wrote: |
| zoebig wrote: |
| I would see my dermatologist if i were u |
as i mentioned i seen but no help. |
Sorry I didn't see that. What did ur derm say about ur situation? Maybe the only way is to let the skin heal itself. I had acnes when I was a teenager, I tried so many products to make it better, but they damaged my skin and left some scars. I would only use gentle cleanser, simple moisture if I could do it again. Maybe the acne would stay longer, but scars much harder to deal with. Hope u can get better sooner. |
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:51 am |
| zoebig wrote: |
| Salome_B wrote: |
| zoebig wrote: |
| I would see my dermatologist if i were u |
as i mentioned i seen but no help. |
Sorry I didn't see that. What did ur derm say about ur situation? Maybe the only way is to let the skin heal itself. I had acnes when I was a teenager, I tried so many products to make it better, but they damaged my skin and left some scars. I would only use gentle cleanser, simple moisture if I could do it again. Maybe the acne would stay longer, but scars much harder to deal with. Hope u can get better sooner. |
my derm said the skin is irritated. all the creams he gave made my face worst.
i do not have acne. retin a is for anti aging. yup. i guess i am just using a sunblock and cleanser as all moisturisers irritate my skin. how long does the skin takes to heal itself? |
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:52 am |
| When I had very dry, painful, cracked and increasingly wrinkled hands from contact dermatitis and couldn't tolerate anything, even simple aqueous creams etc, I discovered Jason's aloe vera cream and it saved my hands. It did not irritate (I still use it as a hand cream and haven't found anything better) - it may be worth looking at. |
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:29 pm |
Firefox recommended aloe pulp (from the leaf directly) + oil mixed together in the palm of the hand right before using.
Another person who had a similar problem to yours Salome, used an emulsion she made like this:
22% oils
45% water or hydrosol
10% sea emollient
7% hyaluronic acid solution
1% vitamin E
5% niacinamide
2% N-acetyl glucosamine
5% Sea L'Silk emulsifier
1% allantoin
2% d-panthenol
She could not tolerate anything on her skin but this and now she is better! HTH |
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:12 pm |
| Thanks for the tips, i friend of mine in with me in old age home is facing this skin damage problem these tips are really useful for him, i hope his problem will be solved with this. |
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:32 pm |
| I'm wondering why you can use a cleanser and sunblock and not oils or honey, etc? What's in your cleanser? |
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Olive, normal/oily skin. Using rinse-off ocm, Vit C, Tretinoin since Nov/10, GHK since Feb/12, Niacinamide & glucosamine, alternating, & now skipping nights! Concerns include oiliness, hyperpigmentation from occasional zits, 11's & nasolabial folds. |
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:48 pm |
I recommend getting yourself some organic coconut oil. It sounds like you've caused deep skin damage to your dermis which is causing the upper layer to shed more easily.
You need some deep penetration so try steaming before applying any non irritable moisturizer. CeraVe is also a good choice. |
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:53 pm |
| Salome_B wrote: |
my derm said the skin is irritated. all the creams he gave made my face worst.
i do not have acne. retin a is for anti aging. yup. i guess i am just using a sunblock and cleanser as all moisturisers irritate my skin. how long does the skin takes to heal itself? |
Takes about 6 weeks for a skin cycle. I have also destroyed my skin barrier due to Obagi Nuderm, PMD, Clarisonic and general overexfoliation. My skin was dry, dehydrated, tight, beet red and waxy in appearance. I cut out retin A, all physical and manual exfoliation and switched to cleansing with a Shu Uemura cleansing oil, Hada Labo Toner with hyaluronic acid for moisture, putting a moisture attracting layer with Mandom Barrier Repair Serum, and then finishing with Atopalm Cream for ceramides. At night I top it with a richer non-mineral oil based cream, Decleor Balm or rosehip oil to seal in moisture throughout the night. During the day I spray on a rosewater moisturizing mist that contains glycerin and hyaluronic acid. Not just misting with water as that will pull moisture from your skin and like LoraA sais, only use glycerin if in a humid environment. After two skin cycles, my skin healed.
Add in 3000 mg Omega 3 fish oil supplements taken in the morning.
Also, Egyptian Magic is a good all natural balm to prevent moisture loss and speed up healing.
Using sheet masks that contain hyaluronic acid every other day will also help your skin absorb moisture.
The recipe that Fawnie posted also sounds very promising.
Good luck! |
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:22 pm |
Sorry to hear about your issues. I would use either nothing but water to wash, or an organic cream cleanser so you don't keep stripping the skin. I think there are many to choose from. As far as repairing the barrier, I would add Vitamin C, MSM (supplements) and lean proteins to your intake. Avoid hot and cold temps on the skin, stay out of the sun, and consider applying liquid oat beta glucan. You can get it here:
http://www.gardenofwisdom.com/catalog/item/4073723/4210818.htm
and here:
http://www.bulkactives.com/abstracts/betaglucanoat.htm
This has been used successfully with all kinds of damaged skin like burns and other wounds. Just Google "liquid oat beta glucan and wound healing."
Hope this helps. |
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Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:18 am |
| Salome_B wrote: |
my derm said the skin is irritated. all the creams he gave made my face worst.
i do not have acne. retin a is for anti aging. yup. i guess i am just using a sunblock and cleanser as all moisturisers irritate my skin. how long does the skin takes to heal itself? |
The time varies case by case I think. I know someone who had irritated skin from cold heavy wind over the past two years, it was serious irritation look like severe sunburn before peeling off. It took about 2 month or so to heal. |
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