dry skin and eczema, and the affect of urea and barrier r.cr
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free skin care · Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:30 am

Hello, it's harder for me to write from a tablet so bare with me haha. So I have eczema all over every inch of my body. Including my face. And it hurts...it stings, it looks awful and ive been trying to find things that work. I don't just have dry skin but super duper dry where it hurts to smile and no matter what I use I just can't find some thing that works. I haven't tried these yet but Ive been wondering about them: urea cream, epi ceram ( I really want but pricey), CerVe, e. Primrose oil, and liccorish. Any one tried these? I've eliminated dairy...I drink water and take vitamins just fyi..my routine is: wash my face with honey and moisturizing with emu oil and sunscreen, I do go between avocado oil and emu oil. So help is greatly wanted! I'd appreciate anything anyone has to advise me. Happy holidays.

free skin care · Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:19 am

Hello.

Whats your diet like?
Have you read about orange juice fasting dissolving every skin issue?

free skin care · Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:44 am

My diets pretty broad. I don't eat greasy food or sweets...I try and have a mix of frozen veggies every morning with a little butter and paperkias, and I do have a lot of rice and chicken, some times a little steak,some times soy or almond milk, mixed nuts and I do have chips a lot...that's what they have in the vending machines at school...but I try to get gardetos a lot, which are a bread and rye mix snack with seasoning yum. Annnd sweet potato fries,and kale. As for an orange juice fast...Im going to personally realistic and say I probably couldn't make it...I hike around all day and need the energy from food food and I never really liked orange juice...so, but feel free to share more on it.

free skin care · Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:26 pm

panoslydios wrote:

Hello.

Whats your diet like?
Have you read about orange juice fasting dissolving every skin issue?

Fad diets don't work. Orange juice fast disolving *every* skin issue, really...
Laughing

free skin care · Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:15 pm

Well yea those are my thoughts as well...Im more looking for a topical to apply, that would start repairing my dryness perminatly.(sorry if any of my spelling is incorrect today haha)

free skin care · Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:35 pm

heyheymonster wrote:

My diets pretty broad. I don't eat greasy food or sweets...I try and have a mix of frozen veggies every morning with a little butter and paperkias, and I do have a lot of rice and chicken, some times a little steak,some times soy or almond milk, mixed nuts and I do have chips a lot...that's what they have in the vending machines at school...but I try to get gardetos a lot, which are a bread and rye mix snack with seasoning yum. Annnd sweet potato fries,and kale. As for an orange juice fast...Im going to personally realistic and say I probably couldn't make it...I hike around all day and need the energy from food food and I never really liked orange juice...so, but feel free to share more on it.

strike one: eat chicken only in moderation when you deal with dry skin all over body.
Animal protein-cheese,meat,dairy- is not meant for human stomach.Study this http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.gr/2012/11/understanding-phsiology-of-stomach.html

strike 2: chips cause scarring in the intestines.

strike 3: wheat is not what used to be.

Begin from here aka the basics.

free skin care · Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:05 pm

Thanks for the info...but if you've read previous post of mine, I should mention once more that my diet is not entirely what I'd like it to be. But it's budget based...Im not going to tweek it any further for now...so...if any one can talk to me about topicals...?I'd really appreciate it.topicals please. I have a hard time taking pills besides my multi vit. But I do occasionally try and take evening primrose oil for the GLA.

free skin care · Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:13 pm

heyheymonster wrote:

Well yea those are my thoughts as well...Im more looking for a topical to apply, that would start repairing my dryness perminatly.(sorry if any of my spelling is incorrect today haha)

heyheymonster, I know of a lady whose baby's eczema was "cured" and made a non-factor with using organic unrefined cold-pressed coconut oil as a moisturizers.

I had eczema until my early 20's when by coincidence, while trying to rid my body of systemic candidiasis, I cured my eczema once and for all as well. Basically I was on an alkaline-causing diet and eliminated gluten, dairy, sugar, fermented foods, food with additives (which meant cooking foods from scratch instead of eating pre-cooked/packed meals), to name a few...and as my body healed from the havoc candida had caused me, my eczema disappeared, as did my hay fever, as did my susceptibility to catch the flu every flu season. In other words, my immunity seemed to go through the roof.

Ironically, what led me to discover I had systemic candidiasis was developing a rash that looked like eczema but would not respond to the eczema cream my doc used to mix for me. Instead this cream would just sit on top of the candida-related rash...and the itching would not stop. To soothe the rash, I would pierce a garlic capsule and apply the gel (garlic is anti-fungal) on it. Not the sort of smell that will win you many friends so I only did this at night. During the day I used a hyssop and chamomile cream my naturopath used to make and sell. I think that cream would have worked nicely on eczema too because the fungal rash was the weirdest and most stubborn patch of dry, itchy skin I ever did see, but it responded to that cream.

There is a cream fondly known as the C-C-C Cream that I once found in a health store, which reminds me a lot of the h&c cream I just mentioned even though the texture is different. The similarity is in how it not only penetrates dry, itchy patches like those of eczema and softens the skin instead of just sitting on top of them, but it also soothes and stops any itching. Because the naturopath who sold me the hyssop/chamomile cream seems to have closed shop, this is the one product I have recommended to anyone to whom I would have otherwise recommended the h&c cream. As misfortune would have it, the health store I found it in went out of business too Brick wall

, and so when I found it again, I made like a product junkie and ordered it just for keeps as it is the best thing since sliced bread IMO and I didn't want to take the chance of not finding it again. But because I didn't need it, it expired while still sealed and I had to toss it. Embarassed

Good thing I bought a small jar. To date, I still have to talk myself out of re-ordering it (being a PJ is so not me but this cream..."it be calling me, it be calling me" like crack used to call Pookie in the movie New Jack City except at least Pookie's body craved the crack coz he was a junkie; I don't need or crave this cream NOW. Just want to make sure I have a jar should it ever disappear. Neutral

) because it is THAT good. You can get it on Amazon. That link shows a dropper bottle but the one I know of came in a jar and looked like this:

Looks like The Vitamin Shoppe sells the jar I know. Squee! Dancing

Good stuff!

free skin care · Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:43 pm

Well I know dairy lowers your immune system so maybe I could take something for boosting it and strengthening. I have a few questions, is your dry skin gone now? Since you've been using the ccc cream, or when you wash and don't moisturize does it still come back? Ill look at the cream though : ) so thanks.

free skin care · Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:14 pm

heyheymonster wrote:

Well I know dairy lowers your immune system so maybe I could take something for boosting it and strengthening. I have a few questions, is your dry skin gone now? Since you've been using the ccc cream, or when you wash and don't moisturize does it still come back? Ill look at the cream though : ) so thanks.

My eczema has never returned since way back when I changed my diet. What made me get the CCC Cream was the lady in the health store and I were talking about diet and health and she happened to mention the cream after I told her about the hyssop/chamomile cream I used to know that was part of my healing. I was actually in the store trying to see if they had something that might mimic that cream because I had a tiny hint of a dry patch that reminded me of the fungal rash of way back when. I was sure it was related to that former rash because it was at the exact location as the fungal rash of many years ago. The lady who recommended the cream said it is helpful to a handful of skin conditions and when I tried it on my patch it worked like a charm.

You see, candida lives in all of us which is why when out of control it makes us ill. And because it is always in our bodies, it isn't unusual for it to rear its ugly head and take you back to a time when it made you ill if you abuse your body diet-wise. So while I do eat healthily most of the time, there were times when I would get the all clear for wheat, dairy, etc (I get food sensitivity tests done every now and then)...and would go overboard in the consummation of these previously forbidden foods. And yes, when I do that I am subtly reminded why I stopped eating them. Usually lethargy and an ill-feeling or dicomfort etc are the clues I get that something I am eating is not OK...but at that time when I discovered CCC Cream the reminder came in the form of a small patch of itchy, dry skin on my hand right where the fungal rash of the early '90s was and the CCC Cream worked like magic. I did not have to continue using it once the patch healed and the skin matched the rest of my hand which is why when I have bought it again just to have it for keeps, it has expired w/o ever being opened. But keep in mind, treatment has to be multifaceted. You can't just use topical products on the outside without taking care of the internal environment by cleaning up your diet.

I no longer have dry skin or eczema or that fungal dry patch, which is why I said I do not need the CCC Cream and need to stop the madness of buying stuff that ends up being wasted. So yes, I can wash my hands and not have those dry patches come back and it has been years! Some days I will even take a shower and not apply a thing on my entire body if I plan to stay indoors just because, and not have itchy dry skin. But like I said you have to take care of both your internal and external environment.

You said you know dairy lowers your immune system so you will take something to boost it. I hope you will also give up dairy otherwise you will be flogging a dead horse. To heal your body, you need to eliminate the cause of the problem and then pile on the solutions, not continue wounding yourself then applying Neosporin. Wink

free skin care · Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:37 am

Neem oil does work for some people. Available at the health food store.

I have used it on blemishes and overnight there is a difference.

My dog had a rash/red patch and I tried the neem oil on him. It cleared up and I avoided a vet bill.

Warning: Neem stinks!

Some links:

http://well.ca/products/theraneem-pure-neem-oil_15796.html

http://www.nontoxicalternatives.com/neem-oil.html

I would patch test a small area first. I would also use a bland heavy barrier cream to protect your skin. Maybe try Aquaphor, a heavy plain oil (oil, whatever you have), etc.

free skin care · Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:45 am

Some people have benefited from eliminating certain food types in their diet.

http://www.amazon.ca/The-South-Beach-Diet-Doctor-Designed/dp/0312991193

The South Beach Diet written by a doctor, suggests that some people can be gluten sensitive.
It was also mentioned in the book, that people with skin issues did see an improvement when they eliminated gluten. (wheat)

I got the book from my library.

free skin care · Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:35 pm

Eczema is genetic for most people. Nothing to do with diet. I should know. When eczema is as widespread as it sounds yours is, use a prescription steroid cream or ointment. It will knock it out in a week. THEN from that point on always moisturize. I have a big jar of CeraVe cream which eczema sufferers recommended. I also have squalane from SkinBiology.com. If you have dry winter heat, put pans of water on the radiator or buy a humidifier to "moisturize" the air. Even have pots of water simmering on the stove if you have to.

I resisted going the steroid route and my eczema kept spreading. Wish I'd knocked it out in its early stages. Now it will take weeks for my skin to return to normal.

free skin care · Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:07 pm

SoftSkin wrote:

Eczema is genetic for most people. Nothing to do with diet.

Well conditions with a genetic basis like cancer, diabetes, hay fever etc have been halted by diet so I would not dismiss diet just because you believe a condition is genetic. My Dad had eczema too so I guess you could say I inherited it from him. I no longer have it. Cured it with diet. He also suffers from hay fever. I had it worse than him. Cured it with diet too.

So never say never!

free skin care · Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:55 pm

SoftSkin wrote:

Eczema is genetic for most people. Nothing to do with diet. I should know. When eczema is as widespread as it sounds yours is, use a prescription steroid cream or ointment. It will knock it out in a week. THEN from that point on always moisturize. I have a big jar of CeraVe cream which eczema sufferers recommended. I also have squalane from SkinBiology.com. If you have dry winter heat, put pans of water on the radiator or buy a humidifier to "moisturize" the air. Even have pots of water simmering on the stove if you have to.

I resisted going the steroid route and my eczema kept spreading. Wish I'd knocked it out in its early stages. Now it will take weeks for my skin to return to normal.

What you call genetics IN THE PARTICULAR SITUATION is the reaction of the immune system about foods that DOESNT WANT the body in it so it expells it through the skin as dryness.

Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:08 am

Quote:

chips cause scarring in the intestines

Are you for real? I mean, whaaaa?

Anyway, I do suffer from eczema, but I didn't get it until I moved to a cold, dry climate. Now I get it around my mouth. I am able to manage it by moisturizing a few times daily and using a humidifier (key, for me) and use Protopic in case I get a flare-up.

What does your derm say? I don't like using steroids, but how about protopic? I've found it to act quite quickly whenever a flare-up happens.

Yogurt, oddly enough, seems to help (though not cure)--probably something to do with candida, as others have suggested.

Of course, you can fiddle with your diet and see if it improves. Some people do find relief that way, though might be difficult on a budget.

free skin care · Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:39 pm

I tried all sorts of diets. I finally gave up when, after being gluten and dairy free, I got another nasty flareup. Now I eat everything with no problems. It's when the air is dry that I sometimes get small patches so am quickly proactive with ointments and creams.

I tried using Mimyx (now called Prumyx) but it was nothing more than an expensive Rx moisturizer and didn't stop the spreading.

free skin care · Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:43 pm

Yes, my skin problems are all genetic...

I am lactose and tolerant..I was just saying if dairy attacks the immune system and causes bad skin why not take something to boost the immune system.

A herb called pau d'acos is used to control candida, maybe its worth looking into.
Because I seriously cannot change my diet.
A
s far as topicals goes...looking at the ccc cream on amazon I was running through some stuff(for eczema) and I came across gator oil...? anyone know of this?

I have decided first steps for me might be a humidifier! I live at a high cold altitude thats always bone dry...whenever I go some place moist my hair and skin looks awesome..or at least better aha.( so i'll look into that)Is there like a small one? cheap small? I kinda...don't have any money..haha.

Thanks everyone Smile

free skin care · Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:58 pm

Do you use a kettle to make tea? That will put steam into the air. Or just put a pan on the stove. Don't let it boil dry. At this time of year it's festive if you throw in a couple of cinnamon sticks and/or cloves to scent the air.

Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:57 pm

Quote:

I have decided first steps for me might be a humidifier! I live at a high cold altitude thats always bone dry...whenever I go some place moist my hair and skin looks awesome..or at least better aha.( so i'll look into that)Is there like a small one? cheap small? I kinda...don't have any money..haha.

You can get a new humidifier on Amazon for around 25-30 dollars. I don't know if that's within your budget, but if you live in a big city, you can look on Craigslist and Freecycle to see if there is anything cheaper (or free!). I'd also look on eBay and charity shops to see if any are going dirt cheap! Once you disinfect these, they'll be perfectly fine.

Back when I lived in a studio apartment, it was enough to take a bath every night and leave the water in overnight--although this won't work, obvs, if you live in a big house. And a bath isn't necessarily good for dry skin, so if you go this route, check online for some solutions. You can put soothing stuff in the water, I remember adding a lot of oatmeal...

free skin care · Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:57 pm

I agree that excema is genetic but both my mothers and my own were controlled/eliminated by diet and product changes- no peanuts, no gluten, and no sulfates.

free skin care · Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:21 pm

quick note for Heyheymonster, just wanted to add that usually allergies such as those which you describe above are due to an underlying weakened immune system. I would advise looking to build your immune system. Patrick Holford has a good book on this subject. It also sounds like you have a typical side effect of candida known as leaky gut. Try and read up on it. Also if possible find out if you have any nutrient deficiencies.

Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:32 pm

I have known eczema for sometime, its a disease my dad used to have. It is a medical condition that cause the skin to become inflamed or irritated.It is similar to contact dermatitis. It is also an allergy. I remember that my dad usually put an ointment or cream to reduced its irritation as form of treatment also.

Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:35 am

Why not trying pure chimp natural super cream to get rid of eczema?
I use it and it helps me much in solving many problems and all its components are 100% natural.

Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:08 am

[/quote]I had eczema until my early 20's when by coincidence, while trying to rid my body of systemic candidiasis, I cured my eczema once and for all as well. Basically I was on an alkaline-causing diet and eliminated gluten, dairy, sugar, fermented foods, food with additives (which meant cooking foods from scratch instead of eating pre-cooked/packed meals), to name a few...and as my body healed from the havoc candida had caused me, my eczema disappeared, as did my hay fever, as did my susceptibility to catch the flu every flu season. In other words, my immunity seemed to go through the roof.
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I was curious as to what you eat now. Seems like you have eliminated everything! I have often thought of eliminating wheat but it seems really hard and expensive and I am on a tight budget. I have an extensive fungal infection that just won't go away and I have tried everything from creams to pills(all from doc). What advice could you give me? Thank you!

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