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Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:33 pm  |
I am extremely new to all of this so pardon my ignorance in advance.
I have followed a few board members closely and wanted to try my own HA/Vitamin C serum but it's too "watery" and lacks the thick, slick feel. I must be missing an ingredient but do not know which. Here is my simple formula:
8oz. aloe vera liquid
1/2 teaspoon HA
0.1oz Vitamin C
1 Teaspoon fragrance
What else am I missing?
Glenda |
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Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:39 am |
| Can anyone help me with this? |
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Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:35 am |
| I don't know anything about DIY, but I do know that certain versions of HA do not gel up as thickly as others. Maybe you used one of the smaller Dalton versions which are runnier? |
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Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:05 pm |
| What bethany said. Your HA probably wasn't a high enough particle size to gel. Sorry. |
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Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:10 pm |
Thanks for the replies everyone! I'm using a recipe similar to the one Kassy uses (via Pure Bulk) here:
Hyaluronic 1% Solution
Preparation:
To prepare 12 fluid ounces of 1% (by weight) Hyaluronic Acid solution, be aware it should only be dissolved in cold water. Never attempt to dissolve Hyaluronic Acid in hot or room temperature water. You will need the following items:
3.56 grams Hyaluronic Acid Powder.
12 fluid ounces cold distilled water.
16 fluid ounce or larger capacity wide mouth glass or plastic water bottle with a tightly sealing lid.
Gram weight measuring scale with an accuracy of 0.01 gram and a capacity of 100 grams.
Pint sized glass or plastic measuring cup.
A wide-range cooking thermometer (that can go down to freezing)
***If I wanted to add Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) into the mix as a mild preservative, how would the ratios need to change using the method above?
Thanks again for the feedback! I think I'm starting to understand all of this now.  |
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:51 am |
| tmaculate1 wrote: |
I am extremely new to all of this so pardon my ignorance in advance.
I have followed a few board members closely and wanted to try my own HA/Vitamin C serum but it's too "watery" and lacks the thick, slick feel. I must be missing an ingredient but do not know which. Here is my simple formula:
8oz. aloe vera liquid
1/2 teaspoon HA
0.1oz Vitamin C
1 Teaspoon fragrance
What else am I missing?
Glenda |
If your HA powder is low molecular weight, then it will not thicken like the regular one. Also, it is hard to say what is the percentage of HA you are using. If it is too low, the serum will not thicken. |
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:53 am |
| tmaculate1 wrote: |
Thanks for the replies everyone! I'm using a recipe similar to the one Kassy uses (via Pure Bulk) here:
Hyaluronic 1% Solution
Preparation:
To prepare 12 fluid ounces of 1% (by weight) Hyaluronic Acid solution, be aware it should only be dissolved in cold water. Never attempt to dissolve Hyaluronic Acid in hot or room temperature water. You will need the following items:
3.56 grams Hyaluronic Acid Powder.
12 fluid ounces cold distilled water.
16 fluid ounce or larger capacity wide mouth glass or plastic water bottle with a tightly sealing lid.
Gram weight measuring scale with an accuracy of 0.01 gram and a capacity of 100 grams.
Pint sized glass or plastic measuring cup.
A wide-range cooking thermometer (that can go down to freezing)
***If I wanted to add Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) into the mix as a mild preservative, how would the ratios need to change using the method above?
Thanks again for the feedback! I think I'm starting to understand all of this now. |
Just subtract it from water in grams. |
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:12 am |
| RussianSunshine wrote: |
| tmaculate1 wrote: |
Thanks for the replies everyone! I'm using a recipe similar to the one Kassy uses (via Pure Bulk) here:
Hyaluronic 1% Solution
Preparation:
To prepare 12 fluid ounces of 1% (by weight) Hyaluronic Acid solution, be aware it should only be dissolved in cold water. Never attempt to dissolve Hyaluronic Acid in hot or room temperature water. You will need the following items:
3.56 grams Hyaluronic Acid Powder.
12 fluid ounces cold distilled water.
16 fluid ounce or larger capacity wide mouth glass or plastic water bottle with a tightly sealing lid.
Gram weight measuring scale with an accuracy of 0.01 gram and a capacity of 100 grams.
Pint sized glass or plastic measuring cup.
A wide-range cooking thermometer (that can go down to freezing)
***If I wanted to add Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) into the mix as a mild preservative, how would the ratios need to change using the method above?
Thanks again for the feedback! I think I'm starting to understand all of this now. |
Just subtract it from water in grams. |
But shouldn't I be adding more water since I am introducing more powder? |
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:11 am |
| tmaculate1 wrote: |
But shouldn't I be adding more water since I am introducing more powder? |
Then the percentage of HA will no longer be 1%. |
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:28 am |
| RussianSunshine wrote: |
| tmaculate1 wrote: |
But shouldn't I be adding more water since I am introducing more powder? |
Then the percentage of HA will no longer be 1%. |
OK just so I'm clear on this....
In order for me to add in the Vitamin C, I need to deduct that amount (in grams) from the water portion? Please confirm. I will try this today.
Thanks, Sunshine! |
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:53 am |
If you're not using a proper preservative (anti-microbial) then do not make more than you can use up in a few days. Vitamin C is not an anti-microbial and will not preserve your mix against bacteria, mold, yeast...
Also, sterilize/disinfect your workspace, measuring tools, and storage bottle and work in as clean an environment as possible (do this whether you use preservatives or not!). |
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:25 am |
Oops, another road block for me.
I assumed the Vitamin C was sufficient as a preservative. So what should I be using for long-term storage needs?
Thanks for the heads up. |
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:10 am |
How long term?
I use Phenoxyethanol at 0.5% and keep my potions in airless pump bottles. My stuff generally gets used up within a month or so, so I've had absolutely no issues.
If I were to make larger batches, I'd store any unused portion in the refrigerator (also in airless pump bottles - ready to go). I'd expect it could hold for up to 6 months, likely longer. But that, for me, remains untested. |
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:32 am |
| bacchus wrote: |
How long term?
I use Phenoxyethanol at 0.5% and keep my potions in airless pump bottles. My stuff generally gets used up within a month or so, so I've had absolutely no issues.
If I were to make larger batches, I'd store any unused portion in the refrigerator (also in airless pump bottles - ready to go). I'd expect it could hold for up to 6 months, likely longer. But that, for me, remains untested. |
I'll give that a shot!
Last thing, is there a good source where I can purchase this online or thru retail? And at what ounce variation would I use it with the above recipe?
Thanks! |
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:46 am |
Retail? You mean like a bricks and mortar store somewhere? I've never found any stores that carry this sort of stuff (and vitamin supplements are a NO, for the most part) where I live and I live in a fairly large urban area. I'd say stick to online ... I think there is a list of suppliers in the DIY thread somewhere.
I can't even wrap my head around teaspoons and ounces .. sorry! I have to work by weight (grams) and percentages. Way, way more accurate. Working with teaspoons will give incredibly variable results -- not good!
Your teaspoon of sugar may weigh a completely different amount than my teaspoon of sugar. But 1 gram of sugar is 1 gram of sugar, no matter who is weighing it (provided the scales are properly calibrated, of course ).
If you do want to commit to making your own stuff, you should definitely buy a small scale and get used to weighing out your ingredients. It really is much simpler!
eta: here's a thread on suppliers http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=32529&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
it's pretty old, though, so scroll through to more recent postings to get to some of the newer websites. |
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Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:11 am |
OK I have read some mixed results regarding Phenoxyethanol. Is there another preferred preservative or is this the standard?
I plan to send these out to relatives over the Holidays so I want to make sure I use a preservative that is long lasting and easy on all skin types. |
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Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:10 am |
| Does anyone know what the standard preservative is for longterm use? |
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:25 am |
| bethany wrote: |
| I don't know anything about DIY, but I do know that certain versions of HA do not gel up as thickly as others. Maybe you used one of the smaller Dalton versions which are runnier? |
Using the HA that I had on hand, I also didn't manage to get the solution to thicken at all, even when following the recipe amounts. So, would that solution still be anywhere as effective for a humectant (for drawing moisture to the skin)? |
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