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Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:14 am |
Hi,
Have anyone tried Carole Maggio's Ultimate Facercise DVD. I am planning to get one..n i was wondering if it has face widener and nose toning exercises.If anyone has tried other programs that widens face , please suggest them.
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Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:56 am |
aprile wrote: |
Hi Hars & welcome,
You can search for other threads too, but here is the Carole Maggio Facercise thread which includes both programs. There are some recent posts here too. I see that you are new, so if you want to look for other programs or posts within this forum, click search and enter key words...
All the best,
Aprile |
Hi Aprile,
Thanks. I posted in main facercise thread. Yes I am new to forum but I see people respond real slowly here. Its been 2-3 days since I have put this query n rarely people respond. I need quick advice if Ultimate Facercise DVD has face widener and nose expander or toner.If you have information on that , kindly share.
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Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:13 pm |
YES Hars the Ultimate Facercise DVD is a newer version of the original Facercise program. The face widener and the nose pump are still part of the program. There are a couple of exercises that are similar to the original ones, but with some minor tweaks. I do think that one should do the entire program as mapped out to see a more balanced look to the face. Although if you are very young, you could get away with just spot exercising i.e., just using the nose pump and face widener... Generally speaking most programs are synergistic and as such all of the exercises work together to support a uplifted more youthful state. HTH, Aprile |
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Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:45 pm |
ETA: Sorry, I thought you were looking for feedback Hars~!!!! |
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Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:00 pm |
aprile wrote: |
YES Hars the Ultimate Facercise DVD is a newer version of the original Facercise program. The face widener and the nose pump are still part of the program. There are a couple of exercises that are similar to the original ones, but with some minor tweaks. I do think that one should do the entire program as mapped out to see a more balanced look to the face. Although if you are very young, you could get away with just spot exercising i.e., just using the nose pump and face widener... Generally speaking most programs are synergistic and as such all of the exercises work together to support a uplifted more youthful state. HTH, Aprile |
Hey Thanks a ton for this information. So dvd has face widener. I have small nose too , i wouldnt like to do nose toning bz of that , since i want my nose to be little bigger.
Anyways I am have hard time deciding b/w facercise n flexeffect bz i have heard flexeffect has bone resistence exercises which could widen face quickly as well. I am 27.So you are saying being younger helps n i can do only exercises i need to. In that case i would be doing all eyes , neck n cheeckbone exercise n might skip face narrower n nose one.
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Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:04 pm |
Yes Hars... you can indeed skip exercises that don't apply to your specific needs. Carole even states that on the DVD. If your nose is already on the small side, you don't need to do that one. However, it helps to keep the tone of the nose as well... so that over time it doesn't become flabby. Definitely skip the face narrower for now. But again,, over time that is also an overall toning exercise so once a day wouldn't hurt as you need more lift. No Facercise does not incorporate any bone work and the Flex program does. I would check over on that forum and see what they have to offer for face widening. I also know that some members take different exercises from a few different programs depending upon their needs and what they like. Those members have been successful as well. There are no hard and fast rules when it comes to FE. Yes since you are so young and your skin is more elastic, I would think you would respond fairly quickly to any program. Is your face thin and narrow? |
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Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:39 pm |
aprile wrote: |
Yes Hars... you can indeed skip exercises that don't apply to your specific needs. Carole even states that on the DVD. If your nose is already on the small side, you don't need to do that one. However, it helps to keep the tone of the nose as well... so that over time it doesn't become flabby. Definitely skip the face narrower for now. But again,, over time that is also an overall toning exercise so once a day wouldn't hurt as you need more lift. No Facercise does not incorporate any bone work and the Flex program does. I would check over on that forum and see what they have to offer for face widening. I also know that some members take different exercises from a few different programs depending upon their needs and what they like. Those members have been successful as well. There are no hard and fast rules when it comes to FE. Yes since you are so young and your skin is more elastic, I would think you would respond fairly quickly to any program. Is your face thin and narrow? |
Yah even I am thinking of doing mix of facercise and flexeffect. I am in talks with flexeffect people to see what they have to offer in regards to face widening.
My Face is thin n narrow but its proportionate in itself. I must say that facercise has helped a lot since I have practiced it for 6 months n my eyes opened up n lip shaped n i have got slight cheeckbones i beleive. But only issue is my face is narrow n not proportionate with body as whole. Following face dimensions might help you to understand my facial structure :
Length Face : 7.5 inc
Cheek (one cheek apple to another ) : 5.6 ic
Forehead : 4.5 inc
Jaw :4.2 * 2= 8.4inc
(measuring instructions from -http://www.bellabycindy.com/intro-to-beauty-basics/ ) |
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Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:45 am |
Hi Hars,
I hope you are getting the answers you need from the Flex people. I do know they have great support! Anyway, since you are so young, YES I do really think you should respond quickly. I don't think facial proportions persay mean a whole lot. Much matters most, is how you feel about your face. So the face widener should help you as well as the cheek developer to really pop the cheeks. Flex might have something to fill out the face more as well. BUT, I just want to mention that it will be very important for you to eat a lot of protein in different forms while facial exercising to support the process. Too many carbs (while great for energy), don't help to support or build muscle. So keep that in mind!! You don't need to eat only meat, fish, eggs, etc. If you are vegetarian you can find vegetarian sources, but you would know what they are. Also, another great way to get more protein is protein shakes and bars. L-Carnosine is also a great supplement that supports muscles.
Best, Aprile |
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Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:57 pm |
aprile wrote: |
Hi Hars,
I hope you are getting the answers you need from the Flex people. I do know they have great support! Anyway, since you are so young, YES I do really think you should respond quickly. I don't think facial proportions persay mean a whole lot. Much matters most, is how you feel about your face. So the face widener should help you as well as the cheek developer to really pop the cheeks. Flex might have something to fill out the face more as well. BUT, I just want to mention that it will be very important for you to eat a lot of protein in different forms while facial exercising to support the process. Too many carbs (while great for energy), don't help to support or build muscle. So keep that in mind!! You don't need to eat only meat, fish, eggs, etc. If you are vegetarian you can find vegetarian sources, but you would know what they are. Also, another great way to get more protein is protein shakes and bars. L-Carnosine is also a great supplement that supports muscles.
Best, Aprile |
Yah I agree that proteins plays vital role n i will start taking care of them while doing exercises.
Also Flexeffect support are suggesting not to do Flexeffect and facercise exercises side by side or otherwise it will be bad effects - not even one or two exercises could be mixed. And also they said - contours n facial muscles could be build on (after 1 year training) n there is no program they know or atleast their program doesn't have face widening(bone) n even I agree that its kind of unrealistic. So I have to either pick facercise or flexeffect. Moreover facercise doesn't have much professional support to answers questions and they hardly respond to emails. So I m in deep thinking process but i think i would probably choose flexeffect. What do u suggest? |
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Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:15 pm |
Hi Hars,
I can't make that decision for you. I did Facercise program for years with success. However, I found in my fifties that my face seemed more gaunt with any FE... but you are quite young. At 27, your face should respond nicely to either program. From what I know from others, Flex Effect might be more of a time commitment than Facercise unless it's been streamlined. I understand that they don't promote mixing programs, but I do think there might be a few exercises that might not conflict like CM's nose pump or the neck and chin lift. As for CM's face widener exercise... it's going to give you more fullness in the lower face combined with the other exercises will make your face *appear* fuller and wider. But it doesn't involve any bone work. I am not all that convinced that any program can move or change bones... I do believe that with massage and some tapping you can stimulate collagen production.
Anyway, you need to find out the number of exercises and the time commitment with the Flex program. With the Ultimate Facercise, there are 13-14 exercises. Once you learn the program it's is an eight-minute commitment twice a day. More than likely, once you to get to where you want to be, you can cut back. Perhaps to once a day or maybe less, given your young age and carefully watching and observing how your face responds. HTH, Aprile |
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Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:32 am |
I think starting off you are better sticking with one program for at least a year, and then you can start combining things. I was just over at the forum there and I don’t think they were saying to you that “contours n facial muscles can be built on after 1 year of training” but that their advanced techniques for bone remodelling and skin remodelling can’t be done until you have a year under your belt – at least that’s what I read there so I think you may be getting a bit confused there.
FlexEffect has 30 exercises done daily, and the CD has two options one at 12 minutes (3 reps of each exercise) and one at 24 minutes (5 reps of each exercise). Then there is the massage on top of that.
I think a large part depends on where you start from, age wise, health wise etc.
Facercise does have professional support – Carole answers emails but because she is the creator she gets hundreds but I personally have had responses. They advise a waiting time of 7 days before response and I certainly would recommend you sending your photo and questions to her – especially if you have done her program up to now.
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Yah I agree that proteins plays vital role n i will start taking care of them while doing exercises.
Also Flexeffect support are suggesting not to do Flexeffect and facercise exercises side by side or otherwise it will be bad effects - not even one or two exercises could be mixed. And also they said - contours n facial muscles could be build on (after 1 year training) n there is no program they know or atleast their program doesn't have face widening(bone) n even I agree that its kind of unrealistic. So I have to either pick facercise or flexeffect. Moreover facercise doesn't have much professional support to answers questions and they hardly respond to emails. So I m in deep thinking process but i think i would probably choose flexeffect. What do u suggest? |
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Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:29 am |
TheresaMary wrote: |
I think starting off you are better sticking with one program for at least a year, and then you can start combining things. I was just over at the forum there and I don’t think they were saying to you that “contours n facial muscles can be built on after 1 year of training” but that their advanced techniques for bone remodelling and skin remodelling can’t be done until you have a year under your belt – at least that’s what I read there so I think you may be getting a bit confused there.
FlexEffect has 30 exercises done daily, and the CD has two options one at 12 minutes (3 reps of each exercise) and one at 24 minutes (5 reps of each exercise). Then there is the massage on top of that.
I think a large part depends on where you start from, age wise, health wise etc.
Facercise does have professional support – Carole answers emails but because she is the creator she gets hundreds but I personally have had responses. They advise a waiting time of 7 days before response and I certainly would recommend you sending your photo and questions to her – especially if you have done her program up to now.
hars99 wrote: |
Yah I agree that proteins plays vital role n i will start taking care of them while doing exercises.
Also Flexeffect support are suggesting not to do Flexeffect and facercise exercises side by side or otherwise it will be bad effects - not even one or two exercises could be mixed. And also they said - contours n facial muscles could be build on (after 1 year training) n there is no program they know or atleast their program doesn't have face widening(bone) n even I agree that its kind of unrealistic. So I have to either pick facercise or flexeffect. Moreover facercise doesn't have much professional support to answers questions and they hardly respond to emails. So I m in deep thinking process but i think i would probably choose flexeffect. What do u suggest? |
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Thanks TheresaMary. I agree , I should not mix two programs as of now, atleast for 1 year.I am trying to choose between facercise and flexeffect based on what I want.
Yah ,you are right, they were conveying that their advanced bone remodeling methods could only be followed after 1 year of training.
For now I have been told that my goals(bone widening) are unrealistic and even I started to believe that they are.
And they suggested - First I need to sort out goals n other things ( dark circles n set healthy lifestyle as well ) before jumping to Flexeffect program to gain something from it.
I will try to contact Carole again with my question n details n wait for her response. But I must say that whatever I have done(around 4-5 months) of facercise - lip, neck , eye , face widener exercises(from her previously posted videos on youtube) , i could see changes in face. Its that when after gap I am trying to start again...i found several other programs on internet n thought of researching about them as well. |
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Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:51 am |
Hars – to be honest when starting out I did not follow the advice, and jumped on every program that came across my path and did learn to regret doing it, but then started over and so know when they advise to give your first program a year they are doing it for good reason. Facercise and FlexEffect aren’t the only two programs out there. There’s also shapeyourface.com which is 5 exercises and has a dvd (but you can get the instructions for them free on Tom’s website) and he has a forum where he answers questions directly too so that’s worth visiting in my book. |
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Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:20 pm |
TheresaMary wrote: |
Hars – to be honest when starting out I did not follow the advice, and jumped on every program that came across my path and did learn to regret doing it, but then started over and so know when they advise to give your first program a year they are doing it for good reason. Facercise and FlexEffect aren’t the only two programs out there. There’s also shapeyourface.com which is 5 exercises and has a dvd (but you can get the instructions for them free on Tom’s website) and he has a forum where he answers questions directly too so that’s worth visiting in my book. |
I will definitely check with shapeyourface support as well before making a decision |
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:49 am |
Shapeyourface is actually not supported by staff but by the actual program creator himself, Tom Haggerty who is a marvellous man and a real gentleman and very knowledgeable in the arena of facial exercises, plus his instructions are up on the web for all. He does sell a dvd if you wanted it, but to me the fact he's put his exercises up there for free and answers questions is really nice of him.
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TheresaMary wrote: |
Hars – to be honest when starting out I did not follow the advice, and jumped on every program that came across my path and did learn to regret doing it, but then started over and so know when they advise to give your first program a year they are doing it for good reason. Facercise and FlexEffect aren’t the only two programs out there. There’s also shapeyourface.com which is 5 exercises and has a dvd (but you can get the instructions for them free on Tom’s website) and he has a forum where he answers questions directly too so that’s worth visiting in my book. |
I will definitely check with shapeyourface support as well before making a decision |
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:42 pm |
TheresaMary wrote: |
Shapeyourface is actually not supported by staff but by the actual program creator himself, Tom Haggerty who is a marvellous man and a real gentleman and very knowledgeable in the arena of facial exercises, plus his instructions are up on the web for all. He does sell a dvd if you wanted it, but to me the fact he's put his exercises up there for free and answers questions is really nice of him.
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TheresaMary wrote: |
Hars – to be honest when starting out I did not follow the advice, and jumped on every program that came across my path and did learn to regret doing it, but then started over and so know when they advise to give your first program a year they are doing it for good reason. Facercise and FlexEffect aren’t the only two programs out there. There’s also shapeyourface.com which is 5 exercises and has a dvd (but you can get the instructions for them free on Tom’s website) and he has a forum where he answers questions directly too so that’s worth visiting in my book. |
I will definitely check with shapeyourface support as well before making a decision |
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Yah I noticed , Also in order to register one has to send email to him to avoid people with agendas of advertisement.
I already send him email today n to carole as well couple of days and I am awaiting for their responses. Gosh honesty its so difficult to make choice amongst all these programs but I feel it would be worth to get desired results. |
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Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:49 am |
It is worth it, and there are other programs out there too: Eva Fraser, Ageless, Facial Magic etc and so you are only looking at a small number but it will be worth it in the long term. |
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