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Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:07 am  |
hi!
After a terrible facial I have been trying to get rid of acne 
After many great suggestions from this board I started having some success with reducing the acne but I am still breaking out and dealing with the spots... I have started using BP which helps a little, but I had a question
CAN THE RIGHT CLEANSER ACTUALLY HELP GET RID OF BREAKOUTS / ACNE? OR does it play a little part and I shouldnt worry about it?
I have been using a gentle Origins cleanser for the past month. The only thing I questoin about it, is that it doesnt contain anything that would kill/have an effect on bacteria/acne ( no salicilic acid/no BP/ no AHA/BHA..)
Please help!
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Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:16 am |
I'm not sure about cleansers but when I used to have bad bouts of acne neat tea tree Essential oil used topically used to help. I would put it on at night before I went to bed and it does help to reduce the affected area. 
Poor Aga I really do sympathise with you. Dr Hauschka cleanser is soothing for acne and won't irritate or inflame the area |
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Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:40 am |
| Hi Aga, My derm always suggests a mild cleanser when you are using strong products after cleaning your skin. Cleansers with BP get washed off with most of the active ingredent. Remember, you don't want to over-dry yor skin, which could make it more open to bacteria and infection. I use a salicylic or glycolic product and I flush my face with lots of cool water. You should not scrub active acne, use abrasive cleansers, or strip your skin. I think you should concentrate on the products you use after cleansing. Let's face it , almost any cleanser is going to clean your face. I know you have gotten a lot of advice about your skin's condition. When I had active acne, I did use antibiotics and they worked. Many years later I used Accutane and that worked also, but it is pretty extreme. I think one of the best products is the newish Retin-A Micro. It will make your skin look worse before it looks better, but after that "difficult transitional time" skin is smooth and clear. It also has the anti-aging effects that are an additional benefit. I don't use it currently, as my active acne has subsided, but if I did have active, inflamed spots, I would go back on it in a minute. My two cents, joani |
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Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:47 am |
| I think using a mild cleanser is quite good for acne. As for BP, only the right formulations that will make a difference to clearing up your skin will work. I still think you should use Paula Begoun's 2% BHA lotion and over that her blemish fighting solution. Thats all you need. |
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Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:30 am |
Thanks for your posts girls!
I always learn so many different great things!
Joani,
I didnt realize how crutial it is to keep the skin well hydtared while using Rx acne medicine, so thanks Joani  Ill remember that!
Rosebud,
I have 100% TTO, but I havent tried it yet, since I am trying the BP 5% at the moment and I dont want to change products too quick and make my skin even more irritated. But I;ll keep it in mind and try it in about 3 weeks
I am still going to get some supplements and see if that helps!
Actually, I had a Q about that, I noticed that Murad has got an acne fighting supplement, all Vits that you listed , and it comes in one pill! Should I try this, or buy each thing seperately?
SusieQ,
I was kind of wonderinf if BP products all work the same or if it depends on the combination of the ingredients.
There are so many things out there and some of them work for some, and dont for others. That's the worst part!
I know Perricone has got a BP acne treatment, but the reviews for it are very mixed, 50% says its great, 50% the worst they ever tried...
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If I want to try the Paulas Choice stuff, when should I introduce it into my routine?
Thanks again!
Aga |
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Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:40 am |
| Aga wrote: |
hi!
After a terrible facial I have been trying to get rid of acne
After many great suggestions from this board I started having some success with reducing the acne but I am still breaking out and dealing with the spots... I have started using BP which helps a little, but I had a question
CAN THE RIGHT CLEANSER ACTUALLY HELP GET RID OF BREAKOUTS / ACNE? OR does it play a little part and I shouldnt worry about it?
I have been using a gentle Origins cleanser for the past month. The only thing I questoin about it, is that it doesnt contain anything that would kill/have an effect on bacteria/acne ( no salicilic acid/no BP/ no AHA/BHA..)
Please help!
Aga |
Hi, Aga. I have acne issues, and one thing that I have learned about my skin is that I must treat it gently or else the problems just get worse. I try to remain consistent with my routine and to not use too many harsh products. I find that my skin does not do well with consistent use of foaming cleansers, so I only use them a few times a week. I also cannot use BP as a leave-on product because it causes too much irritation. For me, the only way to have BP in my routine is in cleanser form. Luckily, I bought Jan Marini's BP cleanser and, on the advice of Casper's Mum (who is very sweet btw; I spoke to her on the phone), I use it a few times a week to avoid irritation, and it seems to help my acne. I leave it on my face for a minute and then rinse off. Luckily for me too, this cleanser is *non-foaming*. I also do well with cleansers with AHA or BHA in them, but I am not currently using any. So, yes, I personally think that cleansers can be beneficial, but it must fit in with the rest of your routine (ie. do not use too many harsh products). Hth.
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Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:03 pm |
Aga I feel your pain.
My derm prescribed Retin-A Micro a few years ago and it improved my skin dramatically, although I am still not %100 satisfied with the results.
I am eagerly reading this book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0446692417/qid=1113676930/sr=2-4/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_4/002-2036364-1488024
The Acne Cure, non-prescription plan by Terry J. Dubrow. So far the method he describes makes a lot of sense and I plan to try it as soon as I can.
The method includes 4 steps, and he outlines very clearly exactly how they are to be followed. Briefly they are as follows (but you should probably read it directly as he outlines dos and don'ts and he recommends products.)
1. a %2 salicylic acid product without any glycolic acid in it- glycolic acid is in the next step and it interferes with salycilic acid if it's used at the same time.
2. an 8-10% glycolic acid cream without any other active ingredients in it.
3. an application of benzoyl peroxide but only after cooling and wetting the skin with an ice cube or pack. this is an old fashioned method, but it works and if you are dark skinned it reduces the risk of hyperpigmented acne-scarring greatly - it also reduces irritation.
4. an oil-free moisterizer with sunblock.
The 4th step I know from experience is tricky. I've been looking for years for a sunblock that doesn't cause breakouts after a few days of use. I recently learned that my skin reacts to chemical sunblocks (like Neutrogena Dry-Touch) and I should be using a non-comedegenic physical sunblock. As for moisterizers, La Roche Posey's Toleraine works for me. Hope this information is helpful for you. |
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Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:37 pm |
| Aga, I wouldn't introduce PB's products into your routine, but use these two products as stand alone only. This will be the only way to see if it works out for you. I would give this 2 weeks at least, with no other products except moisturizer. So, cleanse, thin layer of BP, thin layer of blemish fighting solution, moisturizer around the eyes, mouth or where needed. Twice a day. If its too drying for your skin, back off to every other day or once a day. |
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Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:11 pm |
| I would say that yes, the right cleanser can help control acne. I'm saying this purely based on my experiences with MD Formulations glycolic cleanser and the PCA Skin cleanser for Problem skin. I don't have have a problem with acne in general but I do get bumps under the skin and the occasional pimples as well (generally on the left side of my forehead for some reason) and these cleansers really do help when I start to use them and help keep my skin clear while I use them as well. |
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Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:41 am |
From my experience with Proactiv, grainy agressive bp cleanser, it made my face feel smooth but it looked scrubbed, red and irritated, much of the time. And, I would react with little surface pimples'and a red weepy rash, like excema. When I started using Cetaphil creamy cleanser, my skin felt and looked so much better! I still exfoliate and disinfect with salicylic acid more recently and tretinoin in the recent past, I just don't scrub my skin with manual exfoliants anymore. My skin tone is more even and just feels less irritated and looks less red all the time.
I agree with everyone who has said, if you are exfoliating/disinfecting with a lotion or other solution, it's best to use a gentle cleanser and it's not necessary to disinfect and exfoliate with a cleanser, it doesn't stay on the skin very long to actually disinfect or chemically exfoliate. This is not based on anything other than personal preference though. |
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