Little more then a month...
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free skin care · Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:19 pm

Ive been using this plan for about a month now:

Code:

Morning:
Shower
ACV toner

After school:
ACV toner
Duac

At night:
Capsiderm
Shower w/ DHCC (thursdays and tuesdays)
ACV toner
Vit C serum
Retin-A (every other night)

It has gotten a little bit better, but i am still kinda depressed because i am getting more whiteheads, and the leftover irritated skin just makes it look worse.

I have not added a moisturizer yet, and havnt added a sunscreen.

free skin care · Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:25 pm

the capsiderm could be giving you whiteheads.. i used it once and it gave me like 10 whiteheads the next day.

free skin care · Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:27 pm

what type of skin do you have/

free skin care · Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:32 pm

man, can anyone help? this sucks Sad

free skin care · Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:01 pm

I was on Retin-A a while back and my skin did not like it. It was red and itchy. I've tried everything from Chemical Peel, Microdermabrasion, Dermatologist, Roaccutane, etc. This is what I found best for my skin so far:

OCM every night (75% Sweet almond + 25% castor + 1 drop Ylang Ylang + 1 drop Geranium )
Dr H CC every other day
Aspirin mask once/twice a week

Once every fortnight I cleanse with Dermalogica Special Cleansing Gel followed with Microfoliat

free skin care · Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:21 pm

I have aspirin mask (aka super sonic mask or w/e), im too nervous about it though since my skin is sensitive.

For some reason tonight my skin is ALOT less red, but ios that because it is night time?

Used acv toner, seemed fine, then my face felt a lil warmer and it got a lil redder, was that acv toner or just the atmosphere?

I am SO confused right now Sad

((

I think i have broken caps on one side of my face and not the other, what do i do with them?

free skin care · Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:58 am

Acnease. I keep telling folk but no one listens Laughing

I've done a two month course and my skin is looking great. I also have two full bottles left to 'top up' if I need to. I'm now taking 4 detox pills from the organic pharmacy which has had the added benefit of helping my IBS.

It's fine trying to control the skin from the outside but you have to look at the rest of the body, if it's out of balance, it will show on your skin and I've come to the conclusion that no amount of lotions and potions are going to help.

But good luck anyhow. You may find something that works for you.

free skin care · Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:49 am

I use Tazorac instead of Retin-A and have found it to be great (not at all irritating).

free skin care · Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:02 am

I agree with Eve you need to treat the skin from the inside first, I swear by vitamin and zinc supplements.
Eve I am a fellow IBS and have just got my stomach back to some sense of normality in the last year.

free skin care · Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:33 am

kind off topic but do you think it was the zinc & vitamins that has helped?

free skin care · Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:29 am

Eve I know my IBS was brought on by stress.
I kept a food diary for a year and found that lactose (dairy produce) and wheat products irritated my stomach. I tend to steer clear of raw vegetables, fruit, salads, they go straight through me.
Once I had found the foods that my stomach did not mind (potatoes, cooked vegetables, meat, fish etc),
When I started taking the Zinc and vitamin supplements, my skin cleared up after about a month, my stomach is also so much better now.
The Zinc really did help me maintain my optimum weight as well.

free skin care · Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:46 am

Eve wrote:

Acnease. I keep telling folk but no one listens Laughing

I didn’t get the message! Seriously, tell me more as I’ve been working with Google trying to get his skin into shape with homemade products as his parents are hesitant to spend a great deal of money on “gimmicky” stuff. I’m guessing this Acnease is some type of homeopathic remedy, but can you give me some details about it, like what it contains?

Jeff -

If you’re that leery of the DHSBSSFM, try leaving it on for just 2-3 minutes rather than the fully allotted time that I listed on the instructions.

free skin care · Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:22 pm

Yea eve, what carekate said, Smile

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Well, i gotta say this but i basically eat whatever is around? pizza goldfish and milk anyone? :P

But anyway, what type of pills are you talking about, zinc and vitamins? what type of vitamins and are these prescription or not?

free skin care · Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:17 am

hiya.

It's essentially a TCM traditional chinese medicine. http://www.acnease.com/ I know it sounds gimicky and I didn't just buy it straight off. I searched on what each herb was meant to do and thought I'd give it a try as I've used TCM before and had good results. I guess the alternative would be to jot down the ingredients and take them to herbalist and see if they will blend the same stuff.

free skin care · Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:20 am

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=4282&highlight=acnease

I was suspicious by the original poster but farouk had tried it and gave it an expensive thumbs up. (someone sells it on ebay cheaper than online) Cool

free skin care · Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:09 am

Eve wrote:

I was suspicious by the original poster but farouk had tried it and gave it an expensive thumbs up.

Speaking of Farouk, I guess our dear doctor is too busy saving lives and boinking nurses and other residents (“Grey’s Anatomy” anyone?!) to waste his precious free time hanging out with us anymore! Wink

free skin care · Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:45 pm

Well, i hardly have any new pimples. its just the irritated skin. going to my doctor right now to ask him about it. (not a derm, just a regular doc Smile

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Got back, doc suggested me to use hydrocortiszone, put it on the irritated parts of my skin, whitch i am going to try, but he said accutane would be good, but doesnt know what clearlight is.

acnease looks good, but im not sure if i would want to try it, because i would have to go through my derm, and he already has things set out for me, god this is hell..

Mom wants me back on tazorac, i dont know, i also have triaz, havn't tried it. But ive been usingretin-A every other day. I really dont think anything will work.

free skin care · Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:08 am

google5 wrote:

Mom wants me back on tazorac, i dont know, i also have triaz, havn't tried it. But ive been usingretin-A every other day. I really dont think anything will work.

The thing about taking oral antibiotics for acne is that some of them have hideous side effects such permanently staining your teeth! When I was around 15, I just had a few zits, nothing too major, but our doctor at the time was the type who would write prescriptions for anything. So he wrote me a script for tetracycline and I used it for two months -- it didn't really do anything for my few little bumps, but it left me with a lifelong legacy: teeth stained horribly yellow! This was compounded by the fact that I was wearing braces at the time, so when they took the braces off, I had pure white spots where the hardware used to be stuck on while the surrounding area was hideously yellow so the damage was really noticable.

Hopefully they have made strides in oral antibiotic use for acne and you kids today don't have this problem!

ETA:

Jeff –

For what it is worth, if it were me, I’d have more faith in using an herbal/homeopathic remedy like Acnease then I would in using a bunch of doctor prescribed oral or topical antibiotics or other treatments. While I haven’t used Acnease specifically, I *have* used similar homeopathic remedies on myself and for my mom and can attest that the natural, herbal remedies were far more effective than stuff prescribed by various doctors....

If you want to try it, let me know and I'll see about getting the ingredients or the actual product.

free skin care · Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:45 am

I agree with the herbs. I have horror stories similar to Carekate because of too strongand too many antibiotics. I have also done accutane, and as it is strong but effective, would not let me own son use it. You have to quit switching around and changing the strong stuff. Give a product at least 3 months and be diligent. Retin-a products will make your skin red, period, and your skin will be redder at different times of the day, end of story with no rhyme or reason. Cortisone products will thin your skin and although might help with redness on a temporary basis, cannot be used very long. I would quit looking in the mirror all the time, get out and enjoy being a teenager. That obsession isn't going to do anything but keep making you anxious and stressed which feeds your hormonal imbalances and makes you break out. From experience, I understand why you do it and it is hard not to, but that's the first step. I have heard of clearlight, my derm uses it and says it has a pretty good success rate without the irritation of retinoids. If your derm does it, and you are just wanting to try something else, you might try it instead of another prescription switch along with the herbs.

free skin care · Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:12 am

carekate wrote:

google5 wrote:

Mom wants me back on tazorac, i dont know, i also have triaz, havn't tried it. But ive been usingretin-A every other day. I really dont think anything will work.

The thing about taking oral antibiotics for acne is that some of them have hideous side effects such permanently staining your teeth! When I was around 15, I just had a few zits, nothing too major, but our doctor at the time was the type who would write prescriptions for anything. So he wrote me a script for tetracycline and I used it for two months -- it didn't really do anything for my few little bumps, but it left me with a lifelong legacy: teeth stained horribly yellow! This was compounded by the fact that I was wearing braces at the time, so when they took the braces off, I had pure white spots where the hardware used to be stuck on while the surrounding area was hideously yellow so the damage was really noticable.

Hopefully they have made strides in oral antibiotic use for acne and you kids today don't have this problem!

ETA:

Jeff –

For what it is worth, if it were me, I’d have more faith in using an herbal/homeopathic remedy like Acnease then I would in using a bunch of doctor prescribed oral or topical antibiotics or other treatments. While I haven’t used Acnease specifically, I *have* used similar homeopathic remedies on myself and for my mom and can attest that the natural, herbal remedies were far more effective than stuff prescribed by various doctors....

If you want to try it, let me know and I'll see about getting the ingredients or the actual product.

I would try it, and you guys are suggesting herbs, and it seems that you and your mother say that it works better? i am really not positive on it though.

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I agree with the herbs. I have horror stories similar to Carekate because of too strongand too many antibiotics. I have also done accutane, and as it is strong but effective, would not let me own son use it. You have to quit switching around and changing the strong stuff. Give a product at least 3 months and be diligent. Retin-a products will make your skin red, period, and your skin will be redder at different times of the day, end of story with no rhyme or reason. Cortisone products will thin your skin and although might help with redness on a temporary basis, cannot be used very long. I would quit looking in the mirror all the time, get out and enjoy being a teenager. That obsession isn't going to do anything but keep making you anxious and stressed which feeds your hormonal imbalances and makes you break out. From experience, I understand why you do it and it is hard not to, but that's the first step. I have heard of clearlight, my derm uses it and says it has a pretty good success rate without the irritation of retinoids. If your derm does it, and you are just wanting to try something else, you might try it instead of another prescription switch along with the herbs

So your saying Retin-A doesnt help?

Or your saying i should keep using the Retin-A every other night?

Yeah, only thing is clearlight is pretty expensive.

free skin care · Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:22 am

No, I am saying EXPECT the redness if you are using retin-a. It does work for most teenagers with acne, but all the ones I know who are on it have the redness. It is a side effect until your skin adjusts, which can take a few to quite a few months, depending on how sensitive your skin is. I am really suprised your derm has not mentioned it. Sometimes insurance can cover clearlight thru your derm. If you think clearlight is expensive, price out the accutane. So maybe accepting that you will have the redness for now and know that it is part of healing your face. Tradeoffs, so to speak. Anyway (repeating myself), you really need to go back to your derm and express your concerns and ask him the questions, that's what he is there for.

free skin care · Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:35 am

google I can understand not being in to the herbs but I think it's important to remember that many drugs we use today are synthesised from herbs. Plants and herbs afterall do contain many chemicals. The difference is chemists try and identify which individual chemical is the one that works eg acetylsalicylic acid, better known as aspirin. For many people this is fine but plenty of folk get stomach upsets. Herbalists look at the plant as a whole in the case of aspirin, in it's natural state it contains white willow bark contains acetylsalicylic acid and several compounds that counteract the stomach upsets.

Not saying every herb or plant is good for you, they can interact just like prescription drugs, they can also have side effects and in general take longer to have an effect.

I just think that a natural product is better balanced than something grown in a lab to look like the original. Now where's my opium pipe I feel a headache coming on Laughing

free skin care · Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:07 am

AnnieR wrote:

No, I am saying EXPECT the redness if you are using retin-a. It does work for most teenagers with acne, but all the ones I know who are on it have the redness. It is a side effect until your skin adjusts, which can take a few to quite a few months, depending on how sensitive your skin is. I am really suprised your derm has not mentioned it. Sometimes insurance can cover clearlight thru your derm. If you think clearlight is expensive, price out the accutane. So maybe accepting that you will have the redness for now and know that it is part of healing your face. Tradeoffs, so to speak. Anyway (repeating myself), you really need to go back to your derm and express your concerns and ask him the questions, that's what he is there for.

Okay, talked to derm before and he said insurence does not cover clearlight.
Im trying to gather up the questions that ive been wanting to ask, but i forget most of them, does anyone have some? sounds kind of dumb asking you guys, but i am drawing a blank.

Heres kind of a dumb question, if there is a red spot on my skin, if it stays there for awhile, after it fades will there it be scar-like, or uneven skin? or will the redness just fade and regular skin will be there?

Eve, i would like to try acnese, its just im already trying alot of things and only have been going for 1-2 months, if i added anything more i would probably explode Smile

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So what im working with is fine and should keep improving my skin?

Or do i need a moisturizer/sun screen?

free skin care · Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:23 pm

During my late teens the acnes on my face were so bad, people would stop me on the street and tell me to masturbate becoz supposedly it would help with the problem. My face was beyond recognizable!!!

I went through so many dermotologists that I cannot keep track of their names and the prescribed antibotics that never worked. I tried retinal and other topical products but all they did was to dry up my skin...my whole face was just a red blur. I even went to the dermotologist once every week so that they could poke my face and let off the cysts. Needless to say I was desperate and depressed, I didnt want to be seen. My mom was so frantic that she sent me to see a herbalist a friend recommended. The herbalist told me to stay off fried food, spicy and hot food, any dairy products such as milk, chocolate, cheese... the list went on and on and of coz I had to drink those horrible, thick, gooey and yucky tea for months.

So with my experience said, I could tell you what Eve said is very true. You have to cleanse you system from within, not that you should take medication but to simply eat light and healthy, drink water (lots) forget the caffeine and lay off any stimulants.. stay off the fried stuff and the dairy for awhile and hope for the best.

free skin care · Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:39 pm

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During my late teens the acnes on my face were so bad, people would stop me on the street and tell me to masturbate becoz supposedly it would help with the problem. My face was beyond recognizable!!!

wow, lol. Ive never been stopped in the street and had people say something about my face, because when people see the front of my face, there isnt ANY pimples there, thats the only good thing, its really only on my cheeks

Okay, thanks for the advice xx, eve or carekate, or anyone with knowledge of the products, could you answer those other questions?

PS: should i use cortizone on red spots?

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